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Title: PLANET OF THE WHITE GUYS
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Time Magazine
URL Source: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,982650-2,00.html
Published: Mar 13, 1995
Author: Barbara Ehrenreich
Post Date: 2010-11-14 13:11:31 by Googolplex
Keywords: Diversity, Affirmative Action
Views: 310
Comments: 28
Maybe it's easier for a woman to acknowledge this because subliminal prejudice hurts women too. Studies have shown, for example, that people are more likely to find an article convincing if it is signed by "Bob Someone" instead of, say, "Barbara Someone." It's just the brain's little habit of parceling reality into tidy equations, such as female=probable fluffhead. The truth is that each of us carries around an image of competence in our mind, and its face is neither female nor black. Hence our readiness to believe, whenever we hear of a white male losing out to a minority or a woman, that the white guy was actually more qualified. In Jesse Helms' winning 1990 campaign commercial, a white man crumples up a rejection letter, while the voice-over reminds him that he was "the best-qualified." But was he? Is he always? And why don't we ever hear a white guy worry out loud that his colleagues suspect he got the job-as white men have for centuries-in part because he's male and white? It's a measure of the ambient racism that we find it so hard to believe that affirmative action may actually be doing something right: ensuring that the best guy gets the job, regardless of that guy's race or sex. Eventually, when the occupational hierarchy is so thoroughly integrated that it no longer makes sense for our subconscious minds to invest the notion of competence with a particular skin color or type of genitalia, affirmative action can indeed be cast aside like training wheels. Meanwhile, aggrieved white men can console themselves with the gains their wives have made. Numerically speaking, white women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action, and because white women tend to marry white men, it follows that white men are, numerically speaking, among the top beneficiaries too. On this planet, Bob Dole and Pat Buchanan may not have been able to figure that out yet, but most white guys, I like to think, are plenty smart enough.
Poster Comment: The white nationalist nightmare is that most white people are Diversity nuts.
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#1. To: Googolplex, all (#0)
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That's silly. But I expect that from a woman writer. (ducks..) First of all, I dont know anyone that discounts what someone says based on their sex. What matters is: do I agree or not, and why. Second of all, I like affirmative action, and I am a white nationalist. Apefirmative action breeds incompetence, and I dont want a competent .gov or corporations. The more diversity the better. It hastens this empires demise. And the sooner it dies, the sooner we can rebuild, keeping in mind some hard learned lessons. And the more whites that get passed over for niggers, simply because they are niggers, the more I like it, because that will wake whitey up to what the niggers are doing (through the kikes enabling them to do it). .
Studies have shown, for example, that people are more likely to find an article convincing if it is signed by "Bob Someone" instead of, say, "Barbara Someone."
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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#2. To: Googolplex (#0)
Whackjob.
It's a measure of the ambient racism that we find it so hard to believe that affirmative action may actually be doing something right: ensuring that the best guy gets the job
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#3. To: PSUSA, abraxas (#1) (Edited)
That's silly. But I expect that from a woman writer. But also happens to be true. One of my favorite Science Fiction writers, a woman, wrote under a male pen name - as "Andrew North" and the better known "Andre Norton". When she started writing in the '50's "women didn't write science fiction". It was largely a male preserve and most of the audience was teenage boys and young men. So, women writers just did not sell. That has changed as a lot of girls and young women finally found Science Fiction so it is now a more diverse audience. Today Andre Norton is known to have been a woman and is recognized as one of the greats, but she had to spend most of her writing life writing under a male name to sell her work. It was only in her later years when she and other female science fiction writers, such as Marion Zimmer Bradley, were even able to begin to theme books that were oriented around female themes. Although I have to admit I'm biased as I've always been attracted to brainy women.
Studies have shown, for example, that people are more likely to find an article convincing if it is signed by "Bob Someone" instead of, say, "Barbara Someone."
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#4. To: Original_Intent (#3)
But I dont see people looking at a byline to see if it was written by a woman to decide if the article, or book, or post, has merit. Even though it happened in the past, I'm sure. It's a shame that they had to pretend to be men to get their works published and sold.
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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#5. To: Googolplex (#0)
I saw 'time.com' and decided to proceed with the article anyway. Even Barbara Ehrenreich was given an egalitarian pass. But when I read 'subliminal prejudice', I had to man the lifeboats.
#6. To: PSUSA (#1) (Edited)
The point of the article is in the blurb I quote above. The blurb illustrates one of many rationalizations white women use to justify their continued support for Diversity schemes, such as Affirmative Action. White women, who are the majority of white people, support Diversity schemes because they are prime beneficiaries.
Numerically speaking, white women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action, and because white women tend to marry white men, it follows that white men are, numerically speaking, among the top beneficiaries too.
#7. To: Googolplex (#6) (Edited)
I find that difficult to believe. I'd like to see some numbers on that. White women aren't beneficiaries of AA, but their own competence. If they are not competent, they will be fired. Blacks OTOH cry racism when they are fired, and chances are, they will win, no matter how fucked up and incompetent they are. All of the job apps that I've seen had the question based only on race, not on sex. .
White women, who are the majority of white people, support Diversity schemes because they are prime beneficiaries.
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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#8. To: PSUSA (#7)
That hasn't been my experience. My experience has been white guys support incompetent AA women at work.
If they are not competent, they will be fired.
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#9. To: Turtle (#8)
I haven't worked in a big office before. So I cant comment on that, if big office politics is what you are referring to. Why would white men put up with incompetent co-workers, no matter what race or sex they are? All they do is create problems that others have to fix. .
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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#10. To: Googolplex (#6)
So far all of the data I've seen reports only on their sex (women), and not broken down by womens race. So women, according to the charts I've seen, seem to have received more benefit from AA. But it still needs to be broken down by race.
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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#11. To: PSUSA (#7)
I'm searching for statistics, but they are difficult to obtain because they are obscured by government agencies, requiring a fee to access. Here is a snippit for you to digest...
#12. To: Original_Intent (#3)
Although I have to admit I'm biased as I've always been attracted to brainy women. Sad but true. Even today women continue to use initials or pen names in certain genres. JK Rowling comes to mind, although she is fully out of the closet these days when she went to publish she opted for gender neutral. Yes, but you are rare OI. Many men are intimidated by brainy women and would much prefer submissive women with fewer thoughts on matters. : )
But also happens to be true.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
#13. To: abraxas (#12)
I don't know - maybe I am, but I can't stand submissive women. Jeezus - show some spirit, kick me in the shins, just let me be an equal. I once met a woman out in the wilderness, married unfortunately, who was out Bow Hunting with her husband. She stepped out of the woods in her cammies and face paint but had the carriage that said she would be equally comfortable in a Ball Gown. My kind of girl - unfortunately they are at least as rare as guys who don't want "a little woman".
Yes, but you are rare OI. Many men are intimidated by brainy women and would much prefer submissive women with fewer thoughts on matters. : )
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#14. To: Googolplex (#0)
Barbra Ehrenreich=fluffhead
female=probable fluffhead
#15. To: echo5sierra (#14)
Barbara Ehrenreich = professional victim, a feminist, Diversity nut, eternally oppressed by men.
Barbra Ehrenreich=fluffhead
#16. To: Original_Intent (#3) (Edited)
A andogynous marketing strategy used by a woman to sell fantasy entertainment books and movies to men and boys is not evidence of male hatred or disrespect of women. Any person that sells fantasy books and other forms of entertainment are projecting an image that they believe will help sell the product. In a related marketing strategy, some female models and actresses use androgynous stage names to sell their wares to a larger audience, in an attempt to increase sales. Using androgynous pennames and imagery to sell fantasy products is not evidence of male hatred of women; it is only evidence of slick marketing and the pursuit of the almighty dollar. Yes, science fiction shlock is fantasy entertainment crap, designed to generate sales. People who believe science fiction is real science are delusional. Science fiction writers have an utterly abysmal record when it comes to patent licensing. Patent licensing is real evidence of scientific achievement.
#17. To: PSUSA (#9)
They have to be hired and promoted by law. I'll give you an example. Mulitply this by a million times. One of my friends was beat out by a woman for a job teaching eonomics at at community college, He thought she was more qualified than him, until he sat in her class and realized she didn't know the materal and was making mistakes on the blackboard. When he investigated, he found she was fare less qualified than he was. I told him AA means "white men need not apply." He was found another female econ instuctor who couldn't figure out how to de the math on the blackboard.
Why would white men put up with incompetent co-workers, no matter what race or sex they are?
"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson
#18. To: Googolplex (#16)
Not at all. A rather pissymestic viewpoint really. Science fiction is the dream and Science Fact is the conquered territory. It was the firm opinion of the French Academy of Science in the 1700's that "Rocks don't fall from the skies". The Wright Brothers were widely regarded as kooks. The Smithsonian would not even publish an account of their flight until three years after the fact because it was "impossible". Science Fiction in the 30's was speaking of space travel long before anyone thought it even remotely practical. Robert Heinlein was talking about personal phones you carry around with you in the 1950's. Science Fiction is limited only by the imagination and knowledge of the writer. Contrary to your gimlet pronouncements Science Fiction is less about "science" than it is about writing about people under speculative circumstances. Thankfully Science Fiction is not limited by your imagination.
Yes, science fiction shlock is fantasy entertainment crap, designed to generate sales. People who believe science fiction is real science are delusional. Science fiction writers have an utterly abysmal record when it comes to patent licensing. Patent licensing is real evidence of scientific achievement.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#19. To: PSUSA (#4)
True, but cultures change with Glacial speed. The literary author George Sand was a woman. Other women have used male pen names at different times and, very rarely, men have used female pen names. What we think of as a group, or culture, of the appropriate behavior of one gender or the other conditions how we react. It is the knowledge factor. What you "know" determines what you see and how you react. When the knowledge changes what we see changes with it. So, if "everyone knows" women don't write science fiction then it is hard for them to get published. "Gone With The Wind" sat in a box for ten years because publishers "knew" that no one would buy and read a thousand page novel about the Civil War.
But I dont see people looking at a byline to see if it was written by a woman to decide if the article, or book, or post, has merit. Even though it happened in the past, I'm sure. It's a shame that they had to pretend to be men to get their works published and sold.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#20. To: Original_Intent (#18)
My point stands uncontested....science fiction writers have an abysmal record of licensing patents, which is a real indicator of scientific achievement. You have written nothing to dispute or change that fact. What is more interesting is your implied belief that authors of science fiction are necesarily really smart people. That belief of yours speaks more about your capabilities then it does about fantasy fiction writers.
#21. To: Googolplex, abraxas, Octavia, TooConservative, all (#20) (Edited)
I have found it a general observation that people who must inflate themselves by degrading others ultimately have little to say of any substance. Science Fiction is what it is - speculative fiction, and while many of the writers who have written it hold advanced degrees the fiction they write goes on its own merits as fiction. Either it is entertaining as fiction or it is not. It is not scientific research it is an adventure story written with technology and science as a backdrop. That you are unable to see that is the reality and attempt to pose an irrelevant criterion is simply your problem not mine. The last time I checked no patents had been granted for science fiction novels however I doubt that your unsupported assertion regarding all Science Fiction authors would be sustained by research (Gregory Benford is a Physicist, Jerry Pournelle an Engineer, E.E. Doc Smith was a Phd. Physical Chemist, Robert Heinlein held degrees in Astronomy and Engineering, Issac Asimov in Biochemistry, etc., ..., and they all made more money than you do), but it is not a valid point and I am not going to waste my valuable time disproving an irrelevant point. However, the service provided by science fiction writers is to provoke thought, as they do paint a fascinating landscape of, "what if?". A better test might be how many current patent holders are readers of science fiction? It is fiction for the intelligent and it poses dreams and speculations of what could be not "what is". You totally miss the point, intentionally I do believe, in trying to pose some stupid criterion that has no merit in judging whether a piece of fiction is good or bad. One could make similar criticism of so-called futurists - which the late Robert A. Heinlein once defined as "writers of bad Science Fiction". Just as much sense would be to ask how many writers of Westerns have ever been in a real gunfight and lived, or how many Mystery Writers have ever made their living as a Detective, or how many Fanstasy Writers can actually concoct a Love Potion or wield a Broadsword? Your point on patents is simply a variation on the shop worn and ancient logical fallacy known as Argumentum Ad Hominem (which is a specialized subset of the fallacy known as the Red Herring). It is an irrelevant point raised and argued as though it were when it is not. It has no bearing on whether a particular piece of fiction is either good or bad. So, your lack of imagination and personal opinion really carry little weight. It is just another voice seeking to degrade and disparage to no positive end. As such it should be acknowledged as such and then ignored. Why don't you get back to us after you've published your first novel. Good bye.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#22. To: Original_Intent (#21)
Read fantasy science fiction with gusto, and thereby convince yourself that you are smarter than the average slug. Basically thats your argument. Sad.
#23. To: Googolplex (#22)
LOL! Reliance upon degrading others to inflate your overarching ego. 
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#24. To: Original_Intent (#23) (Edited)
I'm not the one making a claim that people who read and write science fiction are brainy. That's you implying that bogus idea. I dismiss your claim as delusional, and you act like I killed your dog. I guess my dismissal of science fiction hits too close to home for you. What is more amusing is that you state (paraphrase) that degrading others is not a legitimate method to achieve self-confidence, and then you procede to do exactly what you accuse me of doing by calling me a loser in the same post. You is dumb boy, or at the very least a hypocrite.
Reliance upon degrading others to inflate your overarching ego..loser
#25. To: PSUSA (#1)
Affirmative Action is a marketing label for government enforced favortism toward Diversity people. Diversity people are victim cult people, people that believe themselves to be disadvantaged versus an oppressor counterpart, and they are encouraged to regularly trade their votes with politicians in exchange for legal priviliges that are offered by the same politicians. Most white people are in-fact eligible beneficiaries of AA policies, as Diversity ideology and policies recognize white women, white LGBT, white jewish, white disabled, and white hispanics as victimized people, worthy of AA benefits. You seem to be anti-jewish, but you must have realized by now who are the biggest beneficiaries of government Diversity policies, both in the US and Israel. In that light, your support for AA is contradictory and self- defeating.
Second of all, I like affirmative action, and I am a white nationalist.
#26. To: Googolplex (#25)
No, I don't think so. I am for anything and everything that brings chaos to an empire that oh-so-deserves to die. AA helps to bring this chaos that will lead to the death of this kike-run empire. The kikes are not as smart as they think they are. They don't realize that their scams are not sustainable, even though they worked for a long time. That time is coming to an end. Truth has it's own self-sustaining power inherent in itself. Lies lead only to destruction. However, it doesn't happen on a timetable that most of us wanted to see. They are facing a "persecution" that will make their made-up holocaust look like a sunday picnic. They again brought it all on themselves. .
In that light, your support for AA is contradictory and self- defeating.
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#27. To: PSUSA (#26)
You may have to go it alone with your counter-revolution, as most white people and most voters are consistent supporters of the ongoing Diversity scam. The worst nightmare of a white nationalist is knowing that most white people are Diversity nuts. The truth is that most US Diversity people consider themselves victims, and they demand a big governmment to act as their champion, as a force in their favor to counteract their oppressive counterpart: men oppress women white oppress black straight oppress LGBT able-bodied oppress disabled gentile oppress jewish gringo oppress latino occidental oppress asian settler oppress native
#28. To: Googolplex (#27)
I dont disagree with that. Not at all. It just doesn't matter what they support, imo. What matters is that it is not sustainable, because it is all based on lies. We're seeing the cracks widen right now, imo. Sooner or later, probably sooner, it will crash under its own weight. Changes do not come from majorities anyway. Majorities love the status quo and actively resist change. But that does not mean that change cannot occur, in spite of their best efforts of the majority. Besides, I like being in the minority. I'm in better company.
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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
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