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Title: PLANET OF THE WHITE GUYS
Source: Time Magazine
URL Source: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,982650-2,00.html
Published: Mar 13, 1995
Author: Barbara Ehrenreich
Post Date: 2010-11-14 13:11:31 by Googolplex
Keywords: Diversity, Affirmative Action
Views: 350
Comments: 28

Maybe it's easier for a woman to acknowledge this because subliminal prejudice hurts women too. Studies have shown, for example, that people are more likely to find an article convincing if it is signed by "Bob Someone" instead of, say, "Barbara Someone." It's just the brain's little habit of parceling reality into tidy equations, such as female=probable fluffhead. The truth is that each of us carries around an image of competence in our mind, and its face is neither female nor black. Hence our readiness to believe, whenever we hear of a white male losing out to a minority or a woman, that the white guy was actually more qualified. In Jesse Helms' winning 1990 campaign commercial, a white man crumples up a rejection letter, while the voice-over reminds him that he was "the best-qualified." But was he? Is he always? And why don't we ever hear a white guy worry out loud that his colleagues suspect he got the job-as white men have for centuries-in part because he's male and white?

It's a measure of the ambient racism that we find it so hard to believe that affirmative action may actually be doing something right: ensuring that the best guy gets the job, regardless of that guy's race or sex. Eventually, when the occupational hierarchy is so thoroughly integrated that it no longer makes sense for our subconscious minds to invest the notion of competence with a particular skin color or type of genitalia, affirmative action can indeed be cast aside like training wheels.

Meanwhile, aggrieved white men can console themselves with the gains their wives have made. Numerically speaking, white women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action, and because white women tend to marry white men, it follows that white men are, numerically speaking, among the top beneficiaries too. On this planet, Bob Dole and Pat Buchanan may not have been able to figure that out yet, but most white guys, I like to think, are plenty smart enough.


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#1. To: Googolplex, all (#0) (Edited)

Studies have shown, for example, that people are more likely to find an article convincing if it is signed by "Bob Someone" instead of, say, "Barbara Someone."

That's silly. But I expect that from a woman writer. (ducks..)

First of all, I dont know anyone that discounts what someone says based on their sex. What matters is: do I agree or not, and why.

Second of all, I like affirmative action, and I am a white nationalist. Apefirmative action breeds incompetence, and I dont want a competent .gov or corporations. The more diversity the better. It hastens this empires demise. And the sooner it dies, the sooner we can rebuild, keeping in mind some hard learned lessons.

And the more whites that get passed over for niggers, simply because they are niggers, the more I like it, because that will wake whitey up to what the niggers are doing (through the kikes enabling them to do it).

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-14   13:43:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA, abraxas (#1) (Edited)

Studies have shown, for example, that people are more likely to find an article convincing if it is signed by "Bob Someone" instead of, say, "Barbara Someone."

That's silly. But I expect that from a woman writer.

But also happens to be true.

One of my favorite Science Fiction writers, a woman, wrote under a male pen name - as "Andrew North" and the better known "Andre Norton". When she started writing in the '50's "women didn't write science fiction". It was largely a male preserve and most of the audience was teenage boys and young men. So, women writers just did not sell. That has changed as a lot of girls and young women finally found Science Fiction so it is now a more diverse audience.

Today Andre Norton is known to have been a woman and is recognized as one of the greats, but she had to spend most of her writing life writing under a male name to sell her work. It was only in her later years when she and other female science fiction writers, such as Marion Zimmer Bradley, were even able to begin to theme books that were oriented around female themes.

Although I have to admit I'm biased as I've always been attracted to brainy women.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-14   14:11:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent (#3) (Edited)

A andogynous marketing strategy used by a woman to sell fantasy entertainment books and movies to men and boys is not evidence of male hatred or disrespect of women.

Any person that sells fantasy books and other forms of entertainment are projecting an image that they believe will help sell the product.

In a related marketing strategy, some female models and actresses use androgynous stage names to sell their wares to a larger audience, in an attempt to increase sales.

Using androgynous pennames and imagery to sell fantasy products is not evidence of male hatred of women; it is only evidence of slick marketing and the pursuit of the almighty dollar.

Yes, science fiction shlock is fantasy entertainment crap, designed to generate sales. People who believe science fiction is real science are delusional. Science fiction writers have an utterly abysmal record when it comes to patent licensing. Patent licensing is real evidence of scientific achievement.

Googolplex  posted on  2010-11-15   11:04:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Googolplex (#16)

Yes, science fiction shlock is fantasy entertainment crap, designed to generate sales. People who believe science fiction is real science are delusional. Science fiction writers have an utterly abysmal record when it comes to patent licensing. Patent licensing is real evidence of scientific achievement.

Not at all. A rather pissymestic viewpoint really. Science fiction is the dream and Science Fact is the conquered territory.

It was the firm opinion of the French Academy of Science in the 1700's that "Rocks don't fall from the skies".

The Wright Brothers were widely regarded as kooks. The Smithsonian would not even publish an account of their flight until three years after the fact because it was "impossible".

Science Fiction in the 30's was speaking of space travel long before anyone thought it even remotely practical.

Robert Heinlein was talking about personal phones you carry around with you in the 1950's.

Science Fiction is limited only by the imagination and knowledge of the writer. Contrary to your gimlet pronouncements Science Fiction is less about "science" than it is about writing about people under speculative circumstances. Thankfully Science Fiction is not limited by your imagination.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-15   18:57:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#18)

My point stands uncontested....science fiction writers have an abysmal record of licensing patents, which is a real indicator of scientific achievement.

You have written nothing to dispute or change that fact.

What is more interesting is your implied belief that authors of science fiction are necesarily really smart people. That belief of yours speaks more about your capabilities then it does about fantasy fiction writers.

Googolplex  posted on  2010-11-16   12:21:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Googolplex, abraxas, Octavia, TooConservative, all (#20) (Edited)

I have found it a general observation that people who must inflate themselves by degrading others ultimately have little to say of any substance.

Science Fiction is what it is - speculative fiction, and while many of the writers who have written it hold advanced degrees the fiction they write goes on its own merits as fiction. Either it is entertaining as fiction or it is not. It is not scientific research it is an adventure story written with technology and science as a backdrop. That you are unable to see that is the reality and attempt to pose an irrelevant criterion is simply your problem not mine.

The last time I checked no patents had been granted for science fiction novels however I doubt that your unsupported assertion regarding all Science Fiction authors would be sustained by research (Gregory Benford is a Physicist, Jerry Pournelle an Engineer, E.E. Doc Smith was a Phd. Physical Chemist, Robert Heinlein held degrees in Astronomy and Engineering, Issac Asimov in Biochemistry, etc., ..., and they all made more money than you do), but it is not a valid point and I am not going to waste my valuable time disproving an irrelevant point. However, the service provided by science fiction writers is to provoke thought, as they do paint a fascinating landscape of, "what if?". A better test might be how many current patent holders are readers of science fiction? It is fiction for the intelligent and it poses dreams and speculations of what could be not "what is". You totally miss the point, intentionally I do believe, in trying to pose some stupid criterion that has no merit in judging whether a piece of fiction is good or bad. One could make similar criticism of so-called futurists - which the late Robert A. Heinlein once defined as "writers of bad Science Fiction". Just as much sense would be to ask how many writers of Westerns have ever been in a real gunfight and lived, or how many Mystery Writers have ever made their living as a Detective, or how many Fanstasy Writers can actually concoct a Love Potion or wield a Broadsword?

Your point on patents is simply a variation on the shop worn and ancient logical fallacy known as Argumentum Ad Hominem (which is a specialized subset of the fallacy known as the Red Herring). It is an irrelevant point raised and argued as though it were when it is not. It has no bearing on whether a particular piece of fiction is either good or bad.

So, your lack of imagination and personal opinion really carry little weight. It is just another voice seeking to degrade and disparage to no positive end. As such it should be acknowledged as such and then ignored.

Why don't you get back to us after you've published your first novel. Good bye.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-16   13:54:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#21)

Read fantasy science fiction with gusto, and thereby convince yourself that you are smarter than the average slug.

Basically thats your argument.

Sad.

Googolplex  posted on  2010-11-17   7:55:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Googolplex (#22)

LOL!

Reliance upon degrading others to inflate your overarching ego.

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#24. To: Original_Intent (#23) (Edited)

Reliance upon degrading others to inflate your overarching ego..loser

I'm not the one making a claim that people who read and write science fiction are brainy.

That's you implying that bogus idea.

I dismiss your claim as delusional, and you act like I killed your dog.

I guess my dismissal of science fiction hits too close to home for you.

What is more amusing is that you state (paraphrase) that degrading others is not a legitimate method to achieve self-confidence, and then you procede to do exactly what you accuse me of doing by calling me a loser in the same post.

You is dumb boy, or at the very least a hypocrite.

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