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Title: STARTLING! Experts: Missile was CHINESE - President KNEW IT. Systems Failed. Cover-up!
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WGcSuGojYA&feature=player_embedded#!
Published: Nov 20, 2010
Author: Joseph Farah
Post Date: 2010-11-20 22:59:39 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 856
Comments: 70


Poster Comment:

ROTFL about anything that WND publishes ... next up, Farah's lackey, Jerome Corsi PhD is going to provide technical comment on this STARTLING event.

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#30. To: buckeroo (#29)

It's a missile.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   15:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#21)

And your proof of that PsyOp/Public Relations cover story is?

I didn't think so.

Lets parse your apparent brilliant post, shall we?

And your proof of that PsyOp/Public Relations cover story is?

Why should I prove ANYTHING based upon your silly assumption(s)? You offer no fact, no substantial effort at all or otherwise than mere silliness and gullibility.

I didn't think so.

Your own answer was the gateway to truth and happiness everlasting.

You don't think.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo (#19)

How do you know the airplane was traveling straight up? I say it was an optical illusion of the contrail spreading from a long distance off over the Pacific Ocean giving the appearance of "straightup".

Ok, not STRAIGHT up, but it went up at about a 45 degree angle.

It passed below a cloud, then went between several clouds and shot over them.

Why are you straining so hard to make this into something it isn't?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:09:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeroo (#19)

Southern California is undergoing the phenomenon of La Niña;

Wow, so now the weather is to blame for missile launches, eh? It wasn't a static trail bucko, it was a moving object going UP.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: randge (#30)

It's a missile.

Let's take a flip/side to your post. Can you substantiate an apparent observation by some helicopter traffic watcher's own ten minute recorded video?

Ten minutes of recording in a single off-shore direction (looking WEST) with a missile at typical Mach 5-6-7? How is that? What is the apparent horizon distance at say 1,000 feet by a helicopter pilot? Say 30 miles? Or is it 1,000 miles?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: randge (#20)

I'd like to know why the entire video of the incident isn't available. Oh wait, it would become a bit TOO obvious that it was a missile if people could see the entire thing, and folks like bucky would have an even harder time trying to claim it was nothing more than high altitude swamp gas.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: buckeroo (#34)

Oh look, here's another "jet contrail", right?

Just kidding. It's an image of a shuttle launch. Man, it must be traveling SO SLOW, it CAN'T be a rocket or a missile, otherwise it'd be moving so much faster...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:18:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeroo (#34)

Can you substantiate an apparent observation

Don't mean to nit pick, buck, but you're becoming unintelligible.

You substantiate an allegation, contention or assertion but not an observation.

Some career military people have given weight to this video as evidence of a missile launch. I strongly tend to agree with their observations.

I've got dinner guests, and I'll check back with you later.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   15:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeroo, randge, Original-Intent, ALL (#34)

Oh lookie here buck, THIS has to be a jet, it CAN'T be a missile or a rocket since it's travelling so slow in the sky...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: randge (#37)

You substantiate an allegation, contention or assertion but not an observation.

But the entire source of the "mystery missile" was based upon some nit-wit in the Los Angeles area apparent ten minute footage looking over the Pacific Ocean near sunset.

If the apparent observation is correct about the "mystery missile", it must be one of the slowest missiles ever launched.

I've got dinner guests, and I'll check back with you later.

Ask your guests about my questions for fun.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#38)

That footage is a completely different viewing angle. Nice try, but no cigar.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeroo, range (#34)

Can you substantiate an apparent observation by some helicopter traffic watcher's own ten minute recorded video?

Why are you claiming that it's a 10 minute video? The most I've seen is about 10 seconds of video. Do you have the other 590 seconds of what you claim is available?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#40)

That footage is a completely different viewing angle. Nice try, but no cigar.

No buck, an object travelling UP into space looks JUST LIKE THAT.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:31:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, all (#38)

It's interesting in that people who know missiles are commenting how the plume in the video footage looks clearly like the plume of a solid fuel booster.

Last I checked airliners don't use solid fuel boosters.

Are you aware of any airlines that get a little "extra pizazz" by using a solid fuel booster to give the passengers a REAL ride?

Me neither.

Funny thing though, the similarities between the plume of a solid fuel shuttle booster and the one in the video. I guess it must just be another one of those amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing coincidences that buckie invariably rattles on about.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   15:37:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#40) (Edited)

Here's another La Niña cloud for ya there bucko.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Original_Intent (#43) (Edited)

Funny thing though, the similarities between the plume of a solid fuel shuttle booster and the one in the video. I guess it must just be another one of those amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing coincidences that buckie invariably rattles on about.

It's all the fault of La Niña, didn't you know that?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: FormerLurker, Buckmonster Fullofit, buckeroo, Nostradumbass, all (#45) (Edited)

It's all the fault of La Niña, didn't you know that?

Damn! I should have known. The temperature and currents in the ocean water totally changes the formation of a plume from a solid fuel missile booster and the angle at which it confoobulates with the clouds.

Damn! Foiled again!

Does he really expect people to buy this shit? Or is it just to create a confusion factor by throwing in disrelated terms and phenomena?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   15:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: FormerLurker (#41)

Why are you claiming that it's a 10 minute video? The most I've seen is about 10 seconds of video.

Because it was a ten minute video.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Original_Intent (#43)

Last I checked airliners don't use solid fuel boosters.

What makes you think the ten minute video captured any evidence of a solid fuel rocket?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass, FormerLurker, randge, all (#48)

What makes you think the ten minute video captured any evidence of the angle at which the solid fuel booster engine confoobulates with the clouds?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   15:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Original_Intent (#43)

Are you aware of any airlines that get a little "extra pizazz" by using a solid fuel booster to give the passengers a REAL ride?

Just think about the security to get on a plane like that. You would be strip searched, cavity searched, dog sniffed, felt up, then sent through a MRI butt naked.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-11-21   15:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Original_Intent (#49)

What makes you think the ten minute video captured any evidence of the angle at which the solid fuel booster engine confoobulates with the clouds?

I don't. Nice try, O_I.

As I asked, randge in post#34....

Let's take a flip/side to your post. Can you substantiate an apparent observation by some helicopter traffic watcher's own ten minute recorded video?

Ten minutes of recording in a single off-shore direction (looking WEST) with a missile at typical Mach 5-6-7? How is that? What is the apparent horizon distance at say 1,000 feet by a helicopter pilot? Say 30 miles? Or is it 1,000 miles?

Feel free to explain away.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: RickyJ (#50)

Are you aware of any airlines that get a little "extra pizazz" by using a solid fuel booster to give the passengers a REAL ride?

Just think about the security to get on a plane like that. You would be strip searched, cavity searched, dog sniffed, felt up, then sent through a MRI butt naked.

You left out the Colonoscopy.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   16:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass, FormerLurker, wudidiz, all (#51)

Feel free to explain away.

What if I feel free not to?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   16:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Original_Intent (#53)

That's why I love ya, O_I. You can wiggle out of anything.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   16:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: buckeroo (#47)

Because it was a ten minute video.

Provide a link to the full 10 minute video then.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   16:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: FormerLurker (#55)

Click ... Gil Leyvas, the CBS helicopter driver ... you should be able to do your own research from here on end.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   16:18:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: buckeroo (#56)

Click ... Gil Leyvas, the CBS helicopter driver ... you should be able to do your own research from here on end.

Sorry but you've just proven yourself wrong their buckie. It's a 41 second video, looping the same 3 second clips over and over again.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   16:24:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: FormerLurker (#55)

Provide a link to the full 10 minute video then.

Oh ... and since you are on your knees begging for more... Contrail Science - Los Angeles Missile Contrail Explained in Pictures

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   16:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: FormerLurker (#57)

Provide a link to the full 10 minute video then.

You didn't read the whole thread, did you? That is an official CBS website. Go back to answer your own question. Hint: video has been removed by the DoD.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   16:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: buckeroo (#59)

Hint: video has been removed by the DoD

Well now, that SURELY must have just been a La Nina airplane trail then, eh?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   17:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: FormerLurker (#60)

They want further expert investigations over weather phenomena and routine flight performance and traffic considerations to permit further or future official comment. Nothing more to it.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   17:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass, FormerLurker, wudidiz, all (#61)

Yeah, sure, you betcha, absolutely, the DoD takes Videos down every day to investigate them. After all everybody knows that you can't investigate a phenomena if just anybody can look at it.

That must be some real good $#!t yer' smokin' buckie.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   17:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo, *ban buckeroo* (#62)


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2010-11-21   17:24:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: buckeroo (#16)

If it was a "missile" how come the visual flight path is so slow; more than that, how come the contrail clearly shows a slight "zig-zag" path as opposed to a straight trajectory?

It was driving under the influence of rice wine!

LACUMO  posted on  2010-11-21   17:29:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: wudidiz (#63)

ROTFL

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   17:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Original_Intent (#62)

That must be some real good $#!t yer' smokin' buckie.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   17:57:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: LACUMO (#64)

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   18:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: PSUSA (#67)

Well, finally a plausible discussion from RT. It took me hours to uncover these details so don't laff. Look, just above and click.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   18:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: all (#67)

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No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2010-11-21   18:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Original_Intent (#62)

Here's a link to a well informed debate on this topic. I've had guests and I'm off to bed but I have enough time to post some graphics and a website.

Here's location and bearing of sunset and launch by locals familiar with the area.

GOES image with estimated track noted in green.

LOTS more here for you fanatics.

supertopo.com

Nitey nite!

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   22:43:38 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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