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Title: STARTLING! Experts: Missile was CHINESE - President KNEW IT. Systems Failed. Cover-up!
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WGcSuGojYA&feature=player_embedded#!
Published: Nov 20, 2010
Author: Joseph Farah
Post Date: 2010-11-20 22:59:39 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 738
Comments: 70


Poster Comment:

ROTFL about anything that WND publishes ... next up, Farah's lackey, Jerome Corsi PhD is going to provide technical comment on this STARTLING event.

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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

Whatever it was, it apparently did no harm. The Chinese would be stupid to try this, so it is doubtful it was from them. China would risk nuclear war which they would lose if they tried such a stunt. They see us crumbling now, there is no way they are going to risk WW3 when we are self destructing.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-11-21   0:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: RickyJ (#1)

China would risk nuclear war which they would lose if they tried such a stunt. They see us crumbling now, there is no way they are going to risk WW3 when we are self destructing.

There was no risk involved.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-21   6:46:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-11-21   11:45:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#2)

There was no risk involved.

This is quite credible.

If the Chinese had the starch to pull a stunt like this, they might calculate that while this would be a huge embarrassment to the MIC, they also know that the military has the power to cover that sort of embarrassment up and the motivation to do so.

In the absence of real evidence, the jury is out on this one, but the official explanations are inconsistent and very leaky, that's for sure.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   11:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: randge (#4)

In the absence of real evidence, the jury is out on this one,

Odds???? For real by someone.

randge...I said no risk of war for such a stunt, based on history. A million Chinks came across the line into Korea...BECAUSE THEY KNEW DIRECT FROM WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENT THAT WE WOULD NOT USE NUCLEAR.

This possible missile thing was just that a stunt to embarrass.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-21   12:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

Daily do we suspect treason against the people.

We only lack the testimony that would lay out the rope before the eyes of the accused.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   12:18:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: randge (#6)

Daily do we suspect treason against the people.

Over the years, several people of note have said we would fall from within, never from without.

I suspect that is a sure thing.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-21   13:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#0)

this STARTLING event.

Well, I was sure startled. Yep. Startled is the word for it.

I could only stand about 1 1/2 minutes of this crap. In that time I heard the words "experts" and "speculated" more than once. I was startled at how idiotic this vid was. I was uber-startled. Startled startled startled!

BTW, have you ever noticed that words like "startled" sound idiotic and a little funny when overused? I find that to be most startling.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-21   13:17:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PSUSA (#8)

"startled" sounds idiotic

Yes, there's nothing startling about anything I see or here these days.

Here is a short list of things I'm not startled at:

In an economy screaming for jobs, Wonder Boy wants to tax all my emissions and sent my money to some faceless globalist entity.

With the border wide open and narcosatanicos taking up residence on expropriated Texas ranches, the Dimwits in congress are falling all over themselves to pass a bill that brings all food production and seed ownership under the purview of the FDA. (See SB-510.)

Having been all over the world on aircraft, the only country that asks me to take a prosthesis off before boarding is my very own. I am not startled by that, nor will I be startled by whatever tomfoolery I hear on tonight's news.

I am also not startled when a ballistic missile is launched off our coast and the government and the military can't get their stories straight.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   13:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: randge (#9)

I am also not startled when a ballistic missile is launched off our coast and the government and the military can't get their stories straight.

That is what makes the entire affair suspect.

They cannot get their lies together, or their denials.

Having had a career in the FAA, I do know how things are "supposed" to be handled, unless their is manipulation from above.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-21   13:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PSUSA (#8)

I fully agree with you BUT I introduced the video not as piece of worthy news or opinion but as an unworthy, laffable Object d'art.

You and I see eye to eye as the piece is so full of speculation it deserves a smear campaign; actually WND does in total.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   13:47:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#11)

It was a missile.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   13:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#11)

I fully agree with you BUT I introduced the video not as piece of worthy news or opinion but as an unworthy, laffable Object d'art.

I knew that. I might be a little dense, but not that dense ;)

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-21   14:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#0)

The Chinese are the only ones who would have submarine missile launch capability besides Russia, and the Russians have no reason to provoke us.

China on the other hand has many reasons why they might wish to point out their capabilities. What it demonstrates is that they could hit any city in this country they'd like, with little or no warning whatsoever.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   14:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: randge (#9)

You make a good point. Except for the missile story, and maybe the food story.

The missile story is not confirmed yet. I dont know how the hell they can even say it's Chinese, much less a missile.

And I need to read the food bill to make DAMN SURE it says what some say that it says, because I've been led down the wrong path before by people that claim a bill says one thing when it says something completely different. I don't fall for that anymore. No offense.

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PSUSA  posted on  2010-11-21   14:06:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: randge (#12)

It was a missile.

If it was a "missile" how come the visual flight path is so slow; more than that, how come the contrail clearly shows a slight "zig-zag" path as opposed to a straight trajectory?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   14:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#16)

If it was a "missile" how come the visual flight path is so slow; more than that, how come the contrail clearly shows a slight "zig-zag" path as opposed to a straight trajectory?

Can you post a link to the entire video of the object in question? You can't take a few seconds of it and say it was "travelling too slow" when you have no idea how far zoomed in the camera was.

Have you ever seen a rocket launch? The rocket doesn't look like it's moving that fast from a distance, yet it's hauling ass.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   14:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo (#16)

Besides buck, airplanes don't travel straight up and disappear into the sky, leaving a huge smoke trail behind them.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   14:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FormerLurker (#18) (Edited)

Besides buck, airplanes don't travel straight up and disappear into the sky, leaving a huge smoke trail behind them.

How do you know the airplane was traveling straight up? I say it was an optical illusion of the contrail spreading from a long distance off over the Pacific Ocean giving the appearance of "straightup".

Southern California is undergoing the phenomenon of La Niña; this means changes are occurring in the atmosphere further suspending contrails into the atmosphere. When you couple both elongated and suspended commercial jet aircraft contrails with a setting Sun, you have a possible optical illusion based upon exact time of day, position of viewing point and weather conditions.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   14:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo (#18)

And besides, buck, neither aircraft nor ballistic missiles generally "zig-zag."

They may change course, (as this missile did) and high altitude winds traveling at high speeds commonly displace contrails and missile exhaust trail from the axis of travel.

Go to NOAA or the National Weather Service to find the various directions and speeds of wind overhead where you live.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   14:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass, FormerLurker, wudidiz, all (#19)

And your proof of that PsyOp/Public Relations cover story is?

I didn't think so.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   14:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: randge, FormerLurker, Buckmonster Fullofit, buckeroo, all (#20)

Go to NOAA or the National Weather Service to find the various directions and speeds of wind overhead where you live.

There's plennnnnnnnnnnty of wind where buckie lives.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   14:34:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#19)

Southern California is undergoing the phenomenon of La Niña;

You are smokin' more than that missile was, buckeroo.

La Niña is a persistent phenomena, and we should expect to have seen a phenom such as you suggest with some regularity in westward bound aircraft over the Pacific.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   14:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: randge (#20)

And besides, buck, neither aircraft nor ballistic missiles generally "zig-zag."

Au contraire, mon ami. Commercial jet aircraft maneuver for course corrections all the time and for many reasons.

Missles don't maneuver similarly.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   14:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: randge (#23)

La Niña is a persistent phenomena

Au contraire, mon ami. La Niña is a reoccurring phenomena about every five years ( the cycle varies for many unknown reasons BTW ) interleaved with El Niño. Within the La Niña phenomenon of the recurring cycle, the atmosphere is cooler which of course suspends the water vapor exhaust of the jet aircraft for a longer period of time.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   14:48:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeroo (#24)

But that doesn't account for the "zig-zag" that we see in contrails, mon chere.

It was a missile.

Retired big wig generals have put their reps on the line on that.

The gov't is more equivocal: "It's a bird, it's a plane," etc., etc.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   14:50:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: randge, FormerLurker, Buckmonster Fullofit, buckeroo, all (#23)

Southern California is undergoing the phenomenon of La Niña;

You are smokin' more than that missile was, buckeroo.

La Niña is a persistent phenomena, and we should expect to have seen a phenom such as you suggest with some regularity in westward bound aircraft over the Pacific.

Looks like you've got him going now. He's cranking up the Smoke Generator to try and make the facts look fuzzy.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   14:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: randge, FormerLurker, Buckmonster Fullofit, buckeroo, all (#26) (Edited)

It was a missile.

Retired big wig generals have put their reps on the line on that.

The gov't is more equivocal: "It's a bird, it's a plane," etc., etc.

And for buckie: "It's a bird, it's a plane," "It's Howdy Doody Time!".

Ever notice how buckie will take the government spin and run with it like it is "Holy Writ"?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   14:52:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: randge (#26)

But that doesn't account for the "zig-zag" that we see in contrails, mon chere.

Yes, it does and primarily coming over the Southern California coast wherein major airports controlled by the FAA are constantly ensuring course corrections for approaching aircraft for air traffic considerations.

Missiles don't "zig-zag"; in today's world, anyway.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   14:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#29)

It's a missile.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   15:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#21)

And your proof of that PsyOp/Public Relations cover story is?

I didn't think so.

Lets parse your apparent brilliant post, shall we?

And your proof of that PsyOp/Public Relations cover story is?

Why should I prove ANYTHING based upon your silly assumption(s)? You offer no fact, no substantial effort at all or otherwise than mere silliness and gullibility.

I didn't think so.

Your own answer was the gateway to truth and happiness everlasting.

You don't think.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo (#19)

How do you know the airplane was traveling straight up? I say it was an optical illusion of the contrail spreading from a long distance off over the Pacific Ocean giving the appearance of "straightup".

Ok, not STRAIGHT up, but it went up at about a 45 degree angle.

It passed below a cloud, then went between several clouds and shot over them.

Why are you straining so hard to make this into something it isn't?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:09:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeroo (#19)

Southern California is undergoing the phenomenon of La Niña;

Wow, so now the weather is to blame for missile launches, eh? It wasn't a static trail bucko, it was a moving object going UP.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: randge (#30)

It's a missile.

Let's take a flip/side to your post. Can you substantiate an apparent observation by some helicopter traffic watcher's own ten minute recorded video?

Ten minutes of recording in a single off-shore direction (looking WEST) with a missile at typical Mach 5-6-7? How is that? What is the apparent horizon distance at say 1,000 feet by a helicopter pilot? Say 30 miles? Or is it 1,000 miles?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: randge (#20)

I'd like to know why the entire video of the incident isn't available. Oh wait, it would become a bit TOO obvious that it was a missile if people could see the entire thing, and folks like bucky would have an even harder time trying to claim it was nothing more than high altitude swamp gas.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: buckeroo (#34)

Oh look, here's another "jet contrail", right?

Just kidding. It's an image of a shuttle launch. Man, it must be traveling SO SLOW, it CAN'T be a rocket or a missile, otherwise it'd be moving so much faster...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:18:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeroo (#34)

Can you substantiate an apparent observation

Don't mean to nit pick, buck, but you're becoming unintelligible.

You substantiate an allegation, contention or assertion but not an observation.

Some career military people have given weight to this video as evidence of a missile launch. I strongly tend to agree with their observations.

I've got dinner guests, and I'll check back with you later.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   15:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeroo, randge, Original-Intent, ALL (#34)

Oh lookie here buck, THIS has to be a jet, it CAN'T be a missile or a rocket since it's travelling so slow in the sky...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: randge (#37)

You substantiate an allegation, contention or assertion but not an observation.

But the entire source of the "mystery missile" was based upon some nit-wit in the Los Angeles area apparent ten minute footage looking over the Pacific Ocean near sunset.

If the apparent observation is correct about the "mystery missile", it must be one of the slowest missiles ever launched.

I've got dinner guests, and I'll check back with you later.

Ask your guests about my questions for fun.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#38)

That footage is a completely different viewing angle. Nice try, but no cigar.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:29:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeroo, range (#34)

Can you substantiate an apparent observation by some helicopter traffic watcher's own ten minute recorded video?

Why are you claiming that it's a 10 minute video? The most I've seen is about 10 seconds of video. Do you have the other 590 seconds of what you claim is available?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#40)

That footage is a completely different viewing angle. Nice try, but no cigar.

No buck, an object travelling UP into space looks JUST LIKE THAT.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:31:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: FormerLurker, buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, all (#38)

It's interesting in that people who know missiles are commenting how the plume in the video footage looks clearly like the plume of a solid fuel booster.

Last I checked airliners don't use solid fuel boosters.

Are you aware of any airlines that get a little "extra pizazz" by using a solid fuel booster to give the passengers a REAL ride?

Me neither.

Funny thing though, the similarities between the plume of a solid fuel shuttle booster and the one in the video. I guess it must just be another one of those amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing coincidences that buckie invariably rattles on about.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   15:37:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#40) (Edited)

Here's another La Niña cloud for ya there bucko.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Original_Intent (#43) (Edited)

Funny thing though, the similarities between the plume of a solid fuel shuttle booster and the one in the video. I guess it must just be another one of those amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing coincidences that buckie invariably rattles on about.

It's all the fault of La Niña, didn't you know that?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   15:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: FormerLurker, Buckmonster Fullofit, buckeroo, Nostradumbass, all (#45) (Edited)

It's all the fault of La Niña, didn't you know that?

Damn! I should have known. The temperature and currents in the ocean water totally changes the formation of a plume from a solid fuel missile booster and the angle at which it confoobulates with the clouds.

Damn! Foiled again!

Does he really expect people to buy this shit? Or is it just to create a confusion factor by throwing in disrelated terms and phenomena?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   15:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: FormerLurker (#41)

Why are you claiming that it's a 10 minute video? The most I've seen is about 10 seconds of video.

Because it was a ten minute video.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Original_Intent (#43)

Last I checked airliners don't use solid fuel boosters.

What makes you think the ten minute video captured any evidence of a solid fuel rocket?

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass, FormerLurker, randge, all (#48)

What makes you think the ten minute video captured any evidence of the angle at which the solid fuel booster engine confoobulates with the clouds?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   15:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Original_Intent (#43)

Are you aware of any airlines that get a little "extra pizazz" by using a solid fuel booster to give the passengers a REAL ride?

Just think about the security to get on a plane like that. You would be strip searched, cavity searched, dog sniffed, felt up, then sent through a MRI butt naked.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-11-21   15:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Original_Intent (#49)

What makes you think the ten minute video captured any evidence of the angle at which the solid fuel booster engine confoobulates with the clouds?

I don't. Nice try, O_I.

As I asked, randge in post#34....

Let's take a flip/side to your post. Can you substantiate an apparent observation by some helicopter traffic watcher's own ten minute recorded video?

Ten minutes of recording in a single off-shore direction (looking WEST) with a missile at typical Mach 5-6-7? How is that? What is the apparent horizon distance at say 1,000 feet by a helicopter pilot? Say 30 miles? Or is it 1,000 miles?

Feel free to explain away.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   15:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: RickyJ (#50)

Are you aware of any airlines that get a little "extra pizazz" by using a solid fuel booster to give the passengers a REAL ride?

Just think about the security to get on a plane like that. You would be strip searched, cavity searched, dog sniffed, felt up, then sent through a MRI butt naked.

You left out the Colonoscopy.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   16:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass, FormerLurker, wudidiz, all (#51)

Feel free to explain away.

What if I feel free not to?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   16:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Original_Intent (#53)

That's why I love ya, O_I. You can wiggle out of anything.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   16:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: buckeroo (#47)

Because it was a ten minute video.

Provide a link to the full 10 minute video then.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   16:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: FormerLurker (#55)

Click ... Gil Leyvas, the CBS helicopter driver ... you should be able to do your own research from here on end.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   16:18:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: buckeroo (#56)

Click ... Gil Leyvas, the CBS helicopter driver ... you should be able to do your own research from here on end.

Sorry but you've just proven yourself wrong their buckie. It's a 41 second video, looping the same 3 second clips over and over again.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   16:24:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: FormerLurker (#55)

Provide a link to the full 10 minute video then.

Oh ... and since you are on your knees begging for more... Contrail Science - Los Angeles Missile Contrail Explained in Pictures

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   16:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: FormerLurker (#57)

Provide a link to the full 10 minute video then.

You didn't read the whole thread, did you? That is an official CBS website. Go back to answer your own question. Hint: video has been removed by the DoD.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   16:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: buckeroo (#59)

Hint: video has been removed by the DoD

Well now, that SURELY must have just been a La Nina airplane trail then, eh?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-11-21   17:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: FormerLurker (#60)

They want further expert investigations over weather phenomena and routine flight performance and traffic considerations to permit further or future official comment. Nothing more to it.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   17:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass, FormerLurker, wudidiz, all (#61)

Yeah, sure, you betcha, absolutely, the DoD takes Videos down every day to investigate them. After all everybody knows that you can't investigate a phenomena if just anybody can look at it.

That must be some real good $#!t yer' smokin' buckie.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-21   17:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo, *ban buckeroo* (#62)


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2010-11-21   17:24:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: buckeroo (#16)

If it was a "missile" how come the visual flight path is so slow; more than that, how come the contrail clearly shows a slight "zig-zag" path as opposed to a straight trajectory?

It was driving under the influence of rice wine!

LACUMO  posted on  2010-11-21   17:29:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: wudidiz (#63)

ROTFL

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   17:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Original_Intent (#62)

That must be some real good $#!t yer' smokin' buckie.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   17:57:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: LACUMO (#64)

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   18:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: PSUSA (#67)

Well, finally a plausible discussion from RT. It took me hours to uncover these details so don't laff. Look, just above and click.

"The Tea Party represents the true green shoots of a reclaimed America, let us not block it's sunlight while it is still taking roots." -- Flintlock, circa 2010-11-06 13:51:43 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-11-21   18:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: all (#67)

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No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2010-11-21   18:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Original_Intent (#62)

Here's a link to a well informed debate on this topic. I've had guests and I'm off to bed but I have enough time to post some graphics and a website.

Here's location and bearing of sunset and launch by locals familiar with the area.

GOES image with estimated track noted in green.

LOTS more here for you fanatics.

supertopo.com

Nitey nite!

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-11-21   22:43:38 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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