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Title: "North Korea" shells South's island
Source: LA Times
URL Source: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/was ... /yeonpyeong-korea-twitter.html
Published: Nov 23, 2010
Author: Craig Howie
Post Date: 2010-11-23 06:50:50 by Tatarewicz
Keywords: None
Views: 109
Comments: 5

North Korea shells South Korea: Twitter users react November 23, 2010

Koreas

As news of North Korea’s shelling of a populated South Korean island broke late Monday, Twitter users shared their reactions on the social network.

The Twitter conversation tags #prayforkorea, #koreapeace and #koreas all trended on Twitter. A selection of Tweets are below.

A statement released by the White House said: "Earlier today North Korea conducted an artillery attack against the South Korean island of Yeonpyeong. We are in close and continuing contact with our Korean allies.

The United States strongly condemns this attack and calls on North Korea to halt its belligerent action and to fully abide by the terms of the Armistice Agreement.

"The United States is firmly committed to the defense of our ally, the Republic of Korea, and to the maintenance of regional peace and stability."

As of 1:20 a.m. PST, South Korea said it had returned fire after North Korea shelled the island of Yeonpyeong near the border in the Yellow Sea, killing at least one. North Korea, which blocks its ...

... citizens’ access to Twitter, has not commented. The two nations have remained on a war footing since the breakdown of a 1953 treaty.

-- Craig Howie

Tatarewicz: Could be a case of US/Israel ship firing to get a war going between N/S to be used as a pretext for knocking out the North's nuclear works which are a worry to Israel. The last (likely Israeli false flag) attack on a South ship didn't work so worth a second try.

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

The Koreas are always a handy diversion when the economy is collapsing.

bluegrass  posted on  2010-11-23   7:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

we should recall that in the 1990's the US invested heavily to build up North Korea's nuclear industry. the government said that North Korea was poor and needed aid. and building a nuclear power industry for them was our way of aiding them. This is what our government said and did. Now our government says that because they have a nuclear industry we should make war against them.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-11-23   8:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

www.utne.com/web_special/...-05/articles/10549-1.html

Rumsfeld Company Sold Nuclear Weapon Equipment to North Korea —By Craig Cox-, Utne.com May 2003 Issue

U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld served on the board of a Swiss company that in 2000 sold light water nuclear reactors to the government of North Korea, which critics—including Pentagon hardliners—say could be used to produce nuclear weapons.

Rumsfeld’s involvement in the $200 million deal with the Zurich-based engineering company ABB is seen as an embarrassment to the Bush administration, which vehemently opposed the deal during the 2000 presidential campaign, reports the London-based Guardian. “One could draw the conclusion that economic and personal interests took precedent over non-proliferation,” said Steve LaMontagne of the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation.

Rumsfeld sat on the ABB board from 1990 to 2001, earning $190,000 a year. He left to join the Bush administration. Asked about the reactor deal, the defense secretary told the Guardian that he “did not recall it being brought before the board at any time.”

But an ABB spokesman said that “board members were informed about the project which would deliver systems and equipment for light water reactors,” and the Guardian noted that at the time of the deal, ABB’s chief executive Goran Lindahl made a high-profile trip to Pyongyang to announce a “wide-ranging, long-term cooperation agreement” with the North Korean government.

The ABB deal was part of the Clinton administration’s policy of stabilizing the region by offering North Korea oil and light water reactors in exchange for access by inspectors to the government’s atomic facilities. The policy was vehemently opposed by George W. Bush and his foreign policy advisors—including Rumsfeld’s deputy, Paul Wolfowitz—who argued that the light water reactors could produce weapons-grade plutonium.

And despite placing North Korea in its “Axis of Evil,” the Bush administration apparently has fewer concerns about ABB’s reactors now that Rummy’s running things at the Pentagon. In January, the president authorized $3.5 million to keep the project going.

Related Link:

* The Two Faces of Rumsfeld

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-11-23   9:28:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Red Jones (#2)

we should recall that in the 1990's the US invested heavily to build up North Korea's nuclear industry. the government said that North Korea was poor and needed aid. and building a nuclear power industry for them was our way of aiding them. This is what our government said and did. Now our government says that because they have a nuclear industry we should make war against them.

www.abettertoday.com/The%...f%20Donald%20Rumsfeld.htm

The Two Faces Of Donald Rumsfeld By Randeep Ramesh The Guardian - UK

2000: Director of a company which wins $200m contract to sell nuclear reactors to North Korea

2002: Declares North Korea a terrorist state, part of the axis of evil and a target for regime change

Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, sat on the board of a company which three years ago sold two light water nuclear reactors to North Korea - a country he now regards as part of the "axis of evil" and which has been targeted for regime change by Washington because of its efforts to build nuclear weapons.

Mr Rumsfeld was a non-executive director of ABB, a European engineering giant based in Zurich, when it won a $200m (£125m) contract to provide the design and key components for the reactors. The current defence secretary sat on the board from 1990 to 2001, earning $190,000 a year. He left to join the Bush administration.

The reactor deal was part of President Bill Clinton's policy of persuading the North Korean regime to positively engage with the west.

The sale of the nuclear technology was a high-profile contract. ABB's then chief executive, Goran Lindahl, visited North Korea in November 1999 to announce ABB's "wide-ranging, long-term cooperation agreement" with the communist government.

The company also opened an office in the country's capital, Pyongyang, and the deal was signed a year later in 2000. Despite this, Mr Rumsfeld's office said that the de fence secretary did not "recall it being brought before the board at any time".

In a statement to the American magazine Newsweek, his spokeswoman Victoria Clarke said that there "was no vote on this". A spokesman for ABB told the Guardian yesterday that "board members were informed about the project which would deliver systems and equipment for light water reactors".

Just months after Mr Rumsfeld took office, President George Bush ended the policy of engagement and negotiation pursued by Mr Clinton, saying he did not trust North Korea, and pulled the plug on diplomacy. Pyongyang warned that it would respond by building nuclear missiles. A review of American policy was announced and the bilateral confidence building steps, key to Mr Clinton's policy of detente, halted.

By January 2002, the Bush administration had placed North Korea in the "axis of evil" alongside Iraq and Iran. If there was any doubt about how the White House felt about North Korea this was dispelled by Mr Bush, who told the Washington Post last year: "I loathe [North Korea's leader] Kim Jong-il."

The success of campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq have enhanced the status of Mr Rumsfeld in Washington. Two years after leaving ABB, Mr Rumsfeld now considers North Korea a "terrorist regime _ teetering on the verge of collapse" and which is on the verge of becoming a proliferator of nuclear weapons. During a bout of diplomatic activity over Christmas he warned that the US could fight two wars at once - a reference to the forthcoming conflict with Iraq. After Baghdad fell, Mr Rumsfeld said Pyongyang should draw the "appropriate lesson".

Critics of the administration's bellicose language on North Korea say that the problem was not that Mr Rumsfeld supported the Clinton-inspired diplomacy and the ABB deal but that he did not "speak up against it". "One could draw the conclusion that economic and personal interests took precedent over non-proliferation," said Steve LaMontagne, an analyst with the Centre for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation in Washington.

Many members of the Bush administration are on record as opposing Mr Clinton's plans, saying that weapons-grade nuclear material could be extracted from the type of light water reactors that ABB sold. Mr Rumsfeld's deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, and the state department's number two diplomat, Richard Armitage, both opposed the deal as did the Republican presidential candidate, Bob Dole, whose campaign Mr Rumsfeld ran and where he also acted as defence adviser.

One unnamed ABB board director told Fortune magazine that Mr Rumsfeld was involved in lobbying his hawkish friends on behalf of ABB.

The Clinton package sought to defuse tensions on the Ko rean peninsula by offering supplies of oil and new light water nuclear reactors in return for access by inspectors to Pyongyang's atomic facilities and a dismantling of its heavy water reactors which produce weapons grade plutonium. Light water reactors are known as "proliferation-resistant" but, in the words of one expert, they are not "proliferation-proof".

The type of reactors involved in the ABB deal produce plutonium which needs refining before it can be weaponised. One US congressman and critic of the North Korean regime described the reactors as "nuclear bomb factories".

North Korea expelled the inspectors last year and withdrew from the nuclear non-proliferation treaty in January at about the same time that the Bush administration authorised $3.5m to keep ABB's reactor project going.

North Korea is thought to have offered to scrap its nuclear facilities and missile pro gramme and to allow international nuclear inspectors into the country. But Pyongyang demanded that security guarantees and aid from the US must come first.

Mr Bush now insists that he will only negotiate a new deal with Pyongyang after the nuclear programme is scrapped. Washington believes that offering inducements would reward Pyongyang's "blackmail" and encourage other "rogue" states to develop weapons of mass destruction.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-11-23   9:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Red Jones (#2)

we should recall that in the 1990's the US invested heavily to build up North Korea's nuclear industry. the government said that North Korea was poor and needed aid. and building a nuclear power industry for them was our way of aiding them. This is what our government said and did. Now our government says that because they have a nuclear industry we should make war against them.

web.pitas.com/page6/rumsfeld.html

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Rumsfeld and North Korea by Steven G.

US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was a director of a company that designed nuclear power plants for North Korea, an 'axis of evil' country:

Hmmm.

This page is a list of directors of the multinational company ABB, an engineering company which among other things, designs nuclear power plants ó Scroll down a bit to the 'management' section... Donald Rumsfeld was a director of this company from 2000-2001.

Mr. Rumsfeld is in private business and is Chairman of the Board of Directors of Gilead Sciences, Inc. He serves as a member of the boards of directors of ABB (Asea Brown Boveri) Ltd. (Zurich, Switzerland), Amylin Pharmaceuticals, and Tribune Company ... ' (OK, this page might be out of date, but there's no secret he was a director of ABB)

Now check this out: Shinpo nuclear power plant, North Korea. There are a couple of mentions of ABB in this document ó notably that the plant is based on a design by ABB.

Here's a piece from 1996: DOE approves US involvement in the construction of reactors in North Korea. 3rd paragraph down: 'ABB Combustion Engineering Nuclear Systems (C-E), a wholly owned subsidiary of Norwalk, Connecticut-based ABB (Asea Brown Boveri) Inc., was authorized to provide a broad range of technology, equipment, and services for the design, construction, operation, and maintenance of the two reactors to be built in North Korea.

Then there's this one from 2000: Investing in North Korea: as easy as ABB?

And none of this is a secret in Mr. Rumsfeld's resume.

Of course, no-one could be cynical enough to think this has any effect on US policy or anything, but Ö does this mean that Donald Rumsfeld was a director of a company that designed nuclear power plants for North Korea, an 'axis of evil' country?

ABB of course is based in Switzerland and Sweden, neutral countries which probably don't have strong restrictions on trading with North Korea. So effectively Rumsfeld's company was selling nuclear technology to a state which follows an ideology which is extremely hostile to everything the US is supposed to stand for, using the fact that the company is based in neutral countries. This isn't against the letter of the law (as the appropriate licenses were granted and the company is based in neutral countries anyway), but to me, it seems ethically bankrupt.

Your thoughts please? Steven G.

His resume appears to be, by the standards of US government work, outstanding. Clearly Rumsfeld had exactly the qualifications Bush was looking for in a Secretary of Defense.

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TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-11-23   9:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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