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Title: Anyone else read about the guy who refused the scanner AND the patdowns?
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Published: Nov 23, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-11-23 13:24:40 by James Deffenbach
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I read an article, which I should have bookmarked, about a businessman returning to the US from Paris (iirc) and who refused any scan or patdown. And he had some time to kill but after about 2 and a half hours they turned him loose, no fines or anything. Anyone else read it?
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This is not about the "Don't touch my junk" guy, it has been since that happened.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Since when were disembarking passengers subject to scans or patdowns?
Yes, he knew his rights and the law and despite the goons attempts to force him to submit he stood his ground and they had to let him go as they had no legal grounds to stand on.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Blogger Matt Kernan recorded his epic experience as he returned to North Kentucky International Airport in Cincinnati from Paris on Sunday. Exasperated at being told to prepare for a body scan and with time on his hands, the determined businessman decided to make a stand - with remarkable results. Writing on his website noblasters.com, he said: 'I certainly don’t enjoy being treated like a terrorist in my own country, but I’m also not a die-hard constitutional rights advocate. 'However, for some reason, I was irked.' 'Maybe it was the video of the three-year old getting molested, maybe it was the sexual assault victim having to cry her way through getting groped, maybe it was the father watching teenage TSA officers joke about his attractive daughter. 'Whatever it was, this issue didn’t sit right with me. We shouldn’t be required to do this simply to get into our own country.' As a result, Mr Kernan informed staff he did not want to go through the infamous Backscatter imaging machine. He was told he would have to undergo an invasive pat-down search, but again politely told staff that he would consider any contact with his genital areas as assault. After being told that the two options were TSA policy, he replied: ' I disagree with the policy, and I think that it is unconstitutional. 'As a US citizen, I have the right to move freely within my country as long as I can demonstrate proof of citizenship and have demonstrated no reasonable cause to be detained.' As the situation escalated further airport police were called and more senior TSA officials but Mr Kernan refused to back down, remaining calm throughout. Eventually causing a stand-off between police and TSA officers over who should resolve the situation, Mr Kernan was told by a superviser: 'Here’s what we’re going to do. I’m going to escort you out of the terminal to the public area. 'You are to stay with me at all times. Do you understand?' He was then escorted by the police and no less than 13 TSA officer through security without a hand laid on him. He said: 'And then came the most ridiculous scene of which I’ve ever been a part. 'I gather my things – jacket, scarf, hat, briefcase, chocolates. 'We walk over to the staff entrance and he scans his badge to let me through. We walk down the long hallway that led back to the baggage claim area. We skip the escalators and moving walkways.' He was then waved away by annoyed officers and said: 'In order to enter the US, I was never touched, I was never “Backscatted,” and I was never metal detected. 'In the end, it took 2.5 hours, but I proved that it is possible. I’m looking forward to my next flight on Wednesday.' It was the easiest resolution to a turf battle.
A Paul for President! I wondered about that too until I remembered my last flight back to the US after having been out of the country for a few months. If I remember correctly, even though I had already been in the secure area of two international airports, they checked me again in Atlanta.* And the reason I started this thread was to make people aware that you didn't have to submit to their tyranny. Not knowing anyone else's circumstances the threat of a fine of 11,000 "dollars" might scare some people. But with me I would know that before they could even hope to collect the first penny of that they would have to give me a trial and a jury would have to find me guilty. And then fat chance on them ever collecting any of it! You can't get blood out of a turnip or stone. If people will remember, O.J. Simpson got away with murder but lost the civil trial (which is what this bs is). The judgment against him was in the millions, don't remember now the exact amount. Has the Goldman family or the family of his wife ever gotten a dime out of him? I don't think so. *At that time they weren't using the porn scanners but everyone coming in from an international flight had to go through the business with the shoes and the metal detector. What insanity! If I had been a terrorist with evil intentions I would probably have acted on them before I got into Atlanta! I had a connecting flight there to get me to the closest airport to where I live. Somewhere along the way the idiots in customs decided to cut my locks on my bags. Seems you have to leave them unlocked or buy "special keys" that they have masters for. And it made me wonder, why bother locking the bags when people known to have stolen stuff from luggage could cut your locks with a bolt cutter or use keys they already had? Seems the best policy is not to pack anything that is worth anything much and don't expect all your stuff to be there when you get to where you're going (they had left some stuff out of mine during their pilfering--don't know if they stole it or just too incompetent to repack the bag. The result was the same. Stuff that I paid for and packed didn't make it to where I intended it to go).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. I have already written a statement I plan to give them the next time I fly, assuming there is a next time. And I based it on pretty much the same argument this guy gave, that as an American I have the right to travel and to not be detained without cause. People are going to have to start doing that with these Napoleon and Hitler wannabes or they are going to make life unbearable. People should have burned Washington to the ground years ago.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Thank you for the link. I bookmarked it and copied and pasted the article and sent it to several people on my email list. I believe this is as good a place to draw the line in the sand as any.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Thanks for posting that. I hope everyone who has any intention of ever getting on a plane again reads that.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. True, or no, I just heard on local (libertarian host) talk radio that some survey, somewhere, found that 66pc of travelers don't mind the love-pat searches. Whether they just surveyed pervs, or what, I don't know - but that pc is scary high. I hope and pray that it's bogus news.
I believe it. I'm basing it on Life Experience only, but that would be my estimate. But don't forget, I think the number who actually fought our War of Independence against the British was about 5%.
Whether they just surveyed pervs, or what, I don't know - but that pc is scary high. I hope and pray that it's bogus news. Well, you know that there are people who will never, under any circumstances, admit that the government has gone too far. Apparently some people have been so brainwashed that they actually believe all this horse $#it about how the government is keeping them safe and they don't know that the underwear bomber, the source of this latest aggravation, was helped on to the plane by people in high places. Had to have been, didn't even have a passport! And yet, the sheep keep grazing contentedly and never suspecting that after they are sheared they will become mutton.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. Those who pay for the surveys (big libmedia outlets) can pay these pollsters to produce any result desired. The only time any real check is made on the results is when you have an election. Since the 2010 election is over and we won't see much polling put to the test for almost a year, then they are once again free to lie all they want with these polls. Surely you recognize their value in swaying the weak-minded sheep produced deliberately by the public skrools. I never believe these polls unless you have regular opportunities to test the results, like in the last month before an election. It's just too easy to manipulate questions and answers and tabulate the results and the selection of the subjects, subtle wordings, question order, etc. Surely you know the libs would stoop to this kind of propaganda.
Still don't understand why you have to be examined after you disembark. If you have a bomb in your shoe, who cares at that point. Were you, perhaps, preparing to embark on a domestic connection flight?
For an extra dose of radiation. Just another way the elite is trying to reduce the population.
God is always good!
For an extra dose of radiation. Just another way the elite is trying to reduce the population. DING! DING! DING! DING! We have a winner Johnny! Also it is to condition people to be subservient to government minions and "do as they're told". Which unfortunately is exactly what the sheep will do right up to the point they, or their loved ones, lie dying.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Yes, but I had already been in TWO international airports before I got to Atlanta and never left what is supposed to be the "secure area" (other than a transfer from one of the international airports to the other one and then after that I was in the plane into Atlanta and was never outside the airport). Don't know where I was supposed to get a bomb or even any firecrackers.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. I forgot to say this in my earlier reply but none of this stuff is about security or safety. A government which willfully murders innocent women and children in churches and daycare centers and shoots women "armed" with babies don't care about the safety and security of the people. It's about control.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#2. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
a businessman returning to the US from Paris (iirc) and who refused any scan or patdown
#3. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
Anyone else read it?
#4. To: Ada (#2)
#5. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
Meanwhile, one patient traveller has proved it is possible to bypass the high-level security measures in place at all airports, but only if you have time on your hands.
Whites need to be shown darkie won't vote for him.
#6. To: Ada (#2)
(Edited)
Since when were disembarking passengers subject to scans or patdowns?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#7. To: Original_Intent (#3)
Yes, he knew his rights and the law and despite the goons attempts to force him to submit he stood his ground and they had to let him go as they had no legal grounds to stand on.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#8. To: ndcorup (#4)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#9. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#5)
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#10. To: James Deffenbach, 4 (#8)
#11. To: Lod (#10)
"I hope and pray that it's bogus news."
#12. To: Lod (#10)
True, or no, I just heard on local (libertarian host) talk radio that some survey, somewhere, found that 66pc of travelers don't mind the love-pat searches.
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#13. To: Lod (#10)
True, or no, I just heard on local (libertarian host) talk radio that some survey, somewhere, found that 66pc of travelers don't mind the love-pat searches.
#14. To: James Deffenbach (#6)
#15. To: Ada (#14)
Still don't understand why you have to be examined after you disembark.
#16. To: RickyJ, Ada (#15)
Still don't understand why you have to be examined after you disembark.
#17. To: Ada (#14)
Were you, perhaps, preparing to embark on a domestic connection flight?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#18. To: Ada (#14)
Still don't understand why you have to be examined after you disembark. If you have a bomb in your shoe, who cares at that point. Were you, perhaps, preparing to embark on a domestic connection flight?
Lord Acton
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
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