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Title: TSA Administrative Directive: Opt-Outters To Be Considered “Domestic Extremists”
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URL Source: http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.c ... inistrative-directive-opt.html
Published: Nov 28, 2010
Author: Mac Slavo
Post Date: 2010-11-28 01:33:37 by Original_Intent
Keywords: TSA, Gestapo, Stasi, Sekurity
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Comments: 84
If the information recently acquired by Doug Hagmann of Northeast Intelligence Network is accurate, then something really big is happening in America right now - and it’s most certainly not a step towards individual liberty. According to Mr. Hagmann, he was contacted by a source within the DHS who provided an alarming memo detailing a new administrative directive agreed upon by DHS chief Janet Napolitano and the head of TSA John Pistole. The memo, according to Doug Hagmann, “officially addresses those who are opposed to, or engaged in the disruption of the implementation of the enhanced airport screening procedures as ‘domestic extremists’.” The memo leaves no doubt as to who, exactly, is leading the charge to label Americans who refuse current security measures due to health and privacy concerns as extremists. “The measures to be taken in response to the negative public backlash as detailed [in this directive], have the full support of the President,” it says. Under the new labeling procedures, those who choose to opt-out or are perceived as being troublemakers will be detained, questioned and processed for further investigation: The terminology contained within the reported memo is indeed troubling. It labels any person who “interferes” with TSA airport security screening procedure protocol and operations by actively objecting to the established screening process, “including but not limited to the anticipated national opt-out day” as a “domestic extremist.” The label is then broadened to include “any person, group or alternative media source” that actively objects to, causes others to object to, supports and/or elicits support for anyone who engages in such travel disruptions at U.S. airports in response to the enhanced security procedures. For individuals who engaged in such activity at screening points, it instructs TSA operations to obtain the identities of those individuals and other applicable information and submit the same electronically to the Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division, the Extremism and Radicalization branch of the Office of Intelligence & Analysis (IA) division of the Department of Homeland Security. The United States government, under complete control and direction of our elected President, is now actively labeling anyone who exercises their 4th amendment Constitutional right which protects against warrantless and unreasonable searches and seizures as, essentially, engaging in terrorism as defined by Section 802 of the USA Patriot Act: Section 802 [USA Patriot Act] (a) DOMESTIC TERRORISM DEFINED- Section 2331 of title 18, United States Code, is amended– ‘(5) the term `domestic terrorism’ means activities that– ‘(B) appear to be intended– ‘(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; ‘(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or Though it may seem a broad interpretation, the definitions for domestic terrorism are very vague, allowing for a variety of views depending on who happens to be making the decisions. The very fact that TSA is allegedly going to label opt-out travelers as ‘domestic extremists’ suggest that they are, by today’s standards, considered no different than terrorists - and thus - may have their Constitutional rights stripped and be held without trial. In a previous article we discussed Matt Kernan, who may have found a Constitutional argument that works to avoid enhanced security in the airport. But, what if the-powers-that-be determined, by whatever vague definition, that the Constitution doesn’t apply? With the outrage from American travelers and the pressure being put on corporate profits, the President and TSA may eventually change their tune. But if they don’t, then we can expect more intrusive checkpoints from our government in the very near future. Ms. Napolitano has already publicly stated that DHS is looking at other mass transit systems like buses and trains as the next target. Something big is happening. And either the American people are going to force the change - starting with each individual making a personal decision to stand up against policies that can be described as nothing less than tyrannical - or the expansion of surveillance and control systems will continue to spread. If the American people fail this time as we did with bailouts and healthcare, the end result will be backscatter machines in schools, malls, stadiums, and any other public venue which is deemed a security threat by our government. Sources: Northeast Intelligence Network, Electronic Privacy Information Center Author: Mac Slavo Date: November 24th, 2010 Visit the Author's Website: www.SHTFplan.com/ Poster Comment: Just to reiterate a point I've already made. It is the nature of a Police State attempting establish total control that any resistance is characterized derogatorily. Autocratic regimes of any kind cannot tolerate any sort of resistance to their dictats. The viewpoint being one established under fear and directed at control. That the desire for absolute control is psychotic is not seen by them. Psychotics, almost by definition, do not realize that they are psychotic. Control is not in and of itself bad it is what the control is used for that defines it as good or bad. Control to direct someone away from danger or onto a path that is in their best interest are examples of good control. Keeping a child from running out into a busy street would be another example. However, when the control is used to suppress people, keep them down, and use their energies to foul or destructive ends it can safely be defined as bad control. However, I digress. The point is that autocratic regimes, unlike free systems, cannot allow dissent because it is a questioning of their authority. If that dissent succeeds in reversing a policy or an action then those in control feel a diminishment of the power they are attempting to exercise. The TSA's scanning and groping, whatever jokes we may make about it, is quite serious to them. It is the establishment of government as the Alpha authority and it is aimed at conditioning people to accept that authority without question. Thus they are going to make every effort to make this stick, because if the people succeed in forcing it back it empowers other acts of resistance to tyranny. Once people see that they can win and can force the controlling psychotics back that begins the erosion of their power over others which is just the opposite of what they are trying to do with this current exercise in tyranny via unreasonable search and seizure. They are in effect attempting to carve out an exception to the 4th Amendment rights enshrined in the Bill of Rights.
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#1. To: christine, farmfriend, CadetD, wudidiz, HighLairEon, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull, Horse, Lod, Kamala, Eric Stratton, Armadillo, randge, X-15, scrapper2, AllTheKingsHorses, FormerLurker, Itistoolate, Esso, ratcat, Cynicom, abraxas, all (#0)
Despite this not being confirmed from more that one source I decided to put it up anyway as, given the evident mindset of our would-be rulers, this is all too plausible. However, it could also be planted agitprop. So, I am not yet taking this as solid until we have more confirming data. It is however, something to watch.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
It sure does seem to be getting worse, doesn't it? We should be able to expect many more horror stories about the new scanning and groping including news stories of what terrible things happen to those who opt out. It's disgraceful.
Yes the climate is approaching an open Police State. That is why we are now at a seminal and defining moment. Either we push back and stand our ground or the darkness descends. We are very much now on the cusp. The autocrats/Banksters are getting antsy. Their window of opportunity is closing and so they are now becoming more dangerous than ever as they try to force their Dictatorship into existence. However, resistance is building. The next few months are going to get very interesting.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
You're right to question the legitimacy of the report. But if it's true, then it's more than sufficient grounds for impeachment. Insisting on one's rights is no more more "extreme" than going to your bank and expecting to be able to withdraw the funds in your account. Calling such a stance "extreme" is more than extreme, it's an evil and willfully malicious attempt to deny citizens their rights. It's a clear abuse of the power of government to intimidate critics, dissenters and protestors.
#2. To: Original_Intent (#0)
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#3. To: wudidiz (#2)
#4. To: Original_Intent (#1)
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#5. To: Original_Intent (#1)
 | To paraphrase Einstein, "Government should be as powerless as possible, but not so powerless that it cannot perform its sole function (the protection of individual rights.)" |
#6. To: sourcery, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, christine (#5)
Agreed, and if this is legit then that is exactly what it is aimed at - to intimidate people into complying or otherwise risk being treated to an unconstitutional Kangaroo Summary Sentencing. What makes me think it could be legit is that the Grope-n-Scan is very obviously an intimidation, humiliation, conditioning program to accustom travelers to having their rights disregarded and their person's degraded. Basically it is not security at all, and if security were really the aim there are other proven methods that are more effective and less invasive. It is a Psychiatric based conditioning program and there is no doubt in my mind about that.
nsisting on one's rights is no more more "extreme" than going to your bank and expecting to be able to withdraw the funds in your account. Calling such a stance "extreme" is more than extreme, it's an evil and willfully malicious attempt to deny citizens their rights. It's a clear abuse of the power of government to intimidate critics, dissenters and protestors.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#7. To: Original_Intent (#6)
I think it has a lot to do with the scanner manufacturer being a client of Michael Chertoff and quadrupling their lobbying in the past few years.
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#8. To: wudidiz (#7)
I suspect it is more a matter of Jerkoff knew what was going to happen and decided to capitalize on it.
I think it has a lot to do with the scanner manufacturer being a client of Michael Chertoff and quadrupling their lobbying in the past few years.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#9. To: Original_Intent (#8)
You might be very right about that. I will post my image anyway. 
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#10. To: wudidiz (#9)
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#11. To: Original_Intent (#8)
In Milton Mayer’s “They Thought They Were Free,” an average German described the process of a free people being systematically subjugated… “To live in this process is absolutely not to be able to notice it—please try to believe me—unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us had ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, ‘regretted,’ that, unless one were detached from the whole process from the beginning, unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these ‘little measures’ that no ‘patriotic German’ could resent must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. One day it is over his head.”
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#12. To: Original_Intent (#10)
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#13. To: wudidiz (#11)
And that is what they were doing. Something changed though and they are feeling the need to speed up their program, which I predicted they would a couple of years ago back on El Pee, and because of that it is becoming obvious - except to the well conditioned dullards. That is why I say from here on out it gets interesting. Well, I'm beginning to fall asleep in my chair. Time to call it a night. Take care.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#14. To: Original_Intent (#13)
Goodnight, OI.
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#15. To: Original_Intent (#8)
I suspect it is more a matter of Jerkoff knew what was going to happen and decided to capitalize on it. Don't forget he's an ex-KGB Chief.
I think it has a lot to do with the scanner manufacturer being a client of Michael Chertoff and quadrupling their lobbying in the past few years.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#16. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#15)
TSA’s Zionist Food Chain
#17. To: Original_Intent (#15)
been meaning to post [not sure if it has been or not]: Police State: Hutto – America’s Family Prison By wmw_admin on November 23, 2010 Prototype for a nationwide system of concentration camps? www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=15052 See also: Is Slavery Legal In America? http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=12186 America has ALWAYS been a slave colony. See The United States Is Still a British Colony at apfn.org . This is all so totally Biblical....Genesis 15:13-14/Galatians 3:16, 17....29. Ezekiel 38-39/Revelation 20:7-9/ The Thirteenth Tribe at biblebelievers.org / http://lordmayorshow.org/history/gogmagog / http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...ArtNum=126092&Disp=20#C20 I agree they are speeding up their plot; some Americans are waking up [Isaiah 52], and the Magogians want to finish the deal before they get thrown out on their ear: Galatians 4:21-31/Ezekiel 20:33-38.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#18. To: Original_Intent (#0)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#19. To: Original_Intent (#0)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#20. To: Original_Intent (#6)
Since airport screening seems to be continuously escalating the invasive search protocols, a big worry is where do they go from here? They also have no proof of the safety of full body scanners other than, "trust us we are the government". TSA agents will soon discover that they can increase clarity and resolution by increasing XRay intensity. If they can visualize testicles, they are irradiating them. No level of Xray exposure is safe.
#21. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#17)
Home / 404 Not Found
www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=15052
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#22. To: Original_Intent (#0)
Chilling article. When the would be lords and masters decide that the serfs and peons have no rights they can assert without being considered a terrorist or extremist---I don't know but to answer the famous question, It just may be time.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#23. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, All (#21)
Home / 404 Not Found www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=15052
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#24. To: Itistoolate (#16)
computer was running slowly...just came back to start watching it....re Talmudic/Zionist Jew Joe Lieberman....see NOACHIDE COURTS TO REPLACE OURS at cephas ministry. "Come out of her, my people." Micah 4: You will go even to Babylon [see THE ULTIMATE DELUSION by Stephen Ames, or short version, THE QUEEN CONTROLS AND HAS AMENDED US SOCIAL SECURITY at http://apfn.org - we are not under Law in ZOG, but under BABYLONIAN TALMUDIC statutes, or UCC CODE.]....Now many nations ["nation" : look it up in the Concordance. It is #1471 "goy", which can be translated Gentiles, Nations, or HEATHENS....they translate it to suit their purpose.] are gathered against you, and say LET HER BE DEFILED [CORRUPTED..porno-scanners/groping in our underwear] and LET OUR EYE LOOK UPON [or GLOAT OVER] ZION [ http://wnd.com The Enduring Legacy of the First Landing/Micah 4:1-2/Psalm 2:6]. It may not be their intent, but on top of their ZOG schools, government, media, and Hollyweird, they are FULFILLING THIS PROPHECY FOR CHRISTIAN AMERICA to the degree that God may be screaming at us to WAKE UP [Isaiah 52]. See Satan On Our Dollar at http://jesus-is-savior.com . The "mark of the Beast" and the Jewish six-pointed star are on the dollar and the US Great Seal, right over the [second] eagle's [Ezekiel 17:7-6/John 15:1-2/Matthew 15:13] head. To the Jews who are with us, your hope is in Jesus, the God of the Old Testament, Isaiah 9:6-7/Isaiah 53:10.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#25. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#24)
"HomeGrownNaziTerrorist"
#26. To: wudidiz (#23)
really? did I type it wrong....or....I am not surprised....when I went to link to the News Story at another site the other day, IT SHUT DOWN MY COMPUTER....is thetruthseeker.co.uk still up? Try doing a search for Hutto....I am about ready to crash...Hutto is mentioned at the republicbroadcasting link...it may have been in one of the videos [the last one perhaps?]...save anything you find...damn....I wish I had saved thetruthseeker story.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#27. To: wudidiz (#23)
Home / 404 Not Found missed that ....does that mean it's there? I have too much on my computer and don't dare try to pull it up....wish someone would post it...[hint]
www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=15052
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#28. To: wudidiz, All (#7)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#29. To: wudidiz (#12)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#30. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#15)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#31. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#24)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#32. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, 4 (#26)
#33. To: All (#32)
good chertoff info -
#34. To: Original_Intent (#1)
I hate to step on your toes, but where is the According to Mr. Hagmann, he was contacted by a source within the DHS who provided an alarming memo detailing a new administrative directive agreed upon by DHS chief Janet Napolitano and the head of TSA John Pistole. The memo, according to Doug Hagmann, “officially addresses those who are opposed to, or engaged in the disruption of the implementation of the enhanced airport screening procedures as ‘domestic extremists’.”
beef memo?
#35. To: octavia (#20)
Yes, I am still convinced this is part of a Psych regimen to "accustom" people to being treated as they would be in a full blown police state. It is boiling the frog slowly and the heat was just turned up. As it stands from all the stuff circulating the next phase is to start putting Gestapo in Train Stations and Bus Terminals. After all we can't let the people too poor, or unwilling, to fly escape being treated like $#!t. As for the scanners more and more questions from good sources are questioning the reactions to being irradiated with terahertz scanners. Scientists at UCSF are raising serious concern about the affects of excessive radiation from terahertz scanners. And I have seen other reference to the effects in that statistically it is probable that rates of testicular and breast cancers will increase among the population subjected to the terahertz radiation. So, the health concerns would seem to be most definitely real. Of course our would-be masters and mistresses give not one whit of concern toward that thought. Higher mortality rates are likely desirable from their Agenda 21 perspective.
Since airport screening seems to be continuously escalating the invasive search protocols, a big worry is where do they go from here? They also have no proof of the safety of full body scanners other than, "trust us we are the government". TSA agents will soon discover that they can increase clarity and resolution by increasing XRay intensity. If they can visualize testicles, they are irradiating them. No level of Xray exposure is safe.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#36. To: Original_Intent (#0)
i have no doubt that this report could be true, as govt always lists & derides dissenters. however theres not much power in such lists. first of all govt knows that if they screw with a 'troublemaker' too badly, it will go viral in moments or days, & liberty activits will rally the troops in a pr campaign to further discredit the govt. ive been on the tsa 'no fly list' for several years & unlike most, who rightly suspect theyre on it, i actually have the printed paper from the airline admitting it. i like the fact im on the list along with millions of other innocent americans, because like them im not a terrorist & have never even been charged, much less convicted of anything. so that discredits the whole charade. i often tell people that i am on the terrorist list, because it never fails to elicit an incredulous response from them. this is a valuable tool & i will then go into the foundational fraud of 9/11. i still fly, these lists dont prevent americans from flying. they usually dont even bother me at all
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#37. To: Original_Intent (#35)
i really like your in-depth analysis of the underlying reasons & agenda behind these scanners/groping. This is something that has been remiss among all the jokes, etc. you should put something together for widespread release on this topic.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#38. To: Artisan (#36)
I suspect that the reality of the no-fly list is that it is not really a "no-fly" list so much as a disobedient serf tracking list. There is a big push behind these scanners. Of course the Guffermint vill not say so openly but their real purpose is not security. It is to accustom the sheep to being poked, prodded, and needlessly harassed by Guffermint goons. And the function of that is to prepare us for the Police State they would like to install in place of our Constitutional Republic. Government inevitably, even under good stewardship which we do not have, grows like any living organism. It then goes from being a necessary evil to become a parasite that thinks it owns the host. And of course the real parasites pushing it are the Psychiatrists and their Money Men the Banksters.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#39. To: Artisan (#37)
Thank you. I'll take that under advisement.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#40. To: Original_Intent (#39)
you've already written it, i've seen your posts on various scanner threads the past week that are so spot-on & well explained that i wanted to pass it along to others, so that they will 'get it'. as usual i am aiming at those who aren't versed in all this. you have a classical talent to explain complex issues in a very important way. People need to really understand what is going on here, and what is at stake.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#41. To: wudidiz, *Post Of The Day* (#11)
very good & important post. thanks for that, & the link.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#42. To: Artisan, Original_Intent (#37) (Edited)
I have been thinking that someone needs to do an article explaining what's wrong with the porn scanners and the groping from both a denial of rights point of view and also from the point of view of health issues in general. The porn scanners will probably be the cause, or a contributing factor, to some percentage of the flying public getting melanoma and other cancers. The groping with the same pair of gloves for who knows how many people can spread all kinds of diseases, some of which you didn't even talk about in "polite company" when I was a kid. The denial of rights, or the infringement of them, is no small issue either. As everyone who posts here knows, or should know, the contract you enter into when you purchase a plane ticket is with the airline, not the government. And government officials/lackeys have no right to subject anyone to unreasonable searches and seizures and/or to detain them without some probable cause. Those are the things I have been thinking about in regards to this absurd proposition that the government either has to have a porn picture of you or one of their agents gets to grope you before you can get on a plane.
i really like your in-depth analysis of the underlying reasons & agenda behind these scanners/groping. This is something that has been remiss among all the jokes, etc. you should put something together for widespread release on this topic.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#43. To: octavia (#20)
All major transportation authorities: rail, bus, shipyards, train and so forth. Not true. The US government has documented assurances from the vendors (Rapiscan and so forth) that the technology introduced has no effects at all and in fact produce less radiation than a 3 sec flight at a mile altitude. As a result, just as with asbestos contamination used in government contracts decades ago, you can not bring suit to the US government. You shall have to do so with the businesses producing the technologies and products. Good luck! Normally they file bankruptcy real damned FAST. Nope. The second generation of invasion shall begin with gamma radiation transceiver methods which add clarity to the observation.
Since airport screening seems to be continuously escalating the invasive search protocols, a big worry is where do they go from here?
They also have no proof of the safety of full body scanners other than, "trust us we are the government".
TSA agents will soon discover that they can increase clarity and resolution by increasing XRay intensity. If they can visualize testicles, they are irradiating them. No level of Xray exposure is safe.
#44. To: James Deffenbach, eric stratton (#42)
very good points. i saw reference to a article which addresses constitutional arguments against the measures, but will have to find it. i think it may have even been in this thread(?). as i said earlier i was researching the 'backscatter' issue last week for the first time. after several hours of reading the enormity & monstrosity of it... literally satanic. straight from the pit of hell, all of this is. i nearly vomited for reals & was physically sick. this happens very seldom in my years of research- about 3 times in 10 years. yes we are in a world of trouble & this is all very disheartening & sad. I pray that the Lord Jesus Christ will grant us strength, hope & protection in the years to come.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#45. To: Artisan (#44)
If someone started a thread and we all contributed something to it we could take the best stuff from the thread--hopefully about enough to cover three issues very well but short enough so that people with the attention span of a fruit fly can get through it before they get too bored. A good place to start might be with the info in this article. It's about the guy who refused to be scanned and never allowed them to grope him and they didn't threaten him with any fines, just wasted about two or three hours of his time. With that for the base of the article and covering the rights issues we could add info about how this fine technology they are so proud of will give an unknown number of people cancer (and even one is too many when it is just so much bs anyway). And then we could talk about the TSA agents spreading diseases by frisking people with the same gloves (plus the right to be free from being groped when there is no probable cause for the frisking/groping).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#46. To: James Deffenbach (#45)
that's a great idea & youre very right about the attention span issue. articles, to be effective, must be cogent & brief. when i have more time i will be happy to work on that, if you or others dont do a final draft. thanks for the link. i thought they did threaten the san diego guy with fines. i haven't watched his videos yet.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#47. To: Artisan (#46)
They did threaten Tyner (the "don't touch my junk" guy). This is a different guy, one arriving back in the states from a trip overseas. A very interesting article and shows the power of the word NO when someone says it and sticks to it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#48. To: James Deffenbach, artisan (#47)
The key difference though is that he was arriving on an airliner not boarding one. Because he was disembarking he was presumptively already checked by security at the other end and he also has RIGHT to return to the U.S.. From the point of view of legality it is a totally different situation. However, it does underscore another point that should be pulled out, and that is why are they scanning people coming OFF of airliners? Given that the presumption is that the people disembarking have already been checked then where on the plane would the supposed scary scary terrist' pick up anything of any concern to the Gestapo? And if they did why would they wait to use it until AFTER THEY ARE ALREADY OFF THE PLANE? This highlights that the scanners are not about security but about submission to the rule of arbitrary authority.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#49. To: Original_Intent (#48)
Yes, a point I have made to some people in email. Where would he have gotten anything to be concerned about in the secure area of an airport and in a plane? Another point that can be used to show that it is not about safety but about control. But it seems to me that even if you are boarding a domestic flight the same rules apply. You are supposed to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures and no one has any right to put his hands on you uninvited. No one has any right to subject you to rays that they know, or should know, could very well give you cancer.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#50. To: James Deffenbach (#49)
You will get no argument from me. I agree that this crosses the 4th Amendment boundary line of unreasonable. I do believe it will be challenged in court, but the outcome is questionable given the level of corruption in the courts.
But it seems to me that even if you are boarding a domestic flight the same rules apply. You are supposed to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures and no one has any right to put his hands on you uninvited.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#51. To: Original_Intent (#50)
I imagine that will be tested sooner or later. Hopefully sooner. And if the judges show themselves to be as worthless as most of us think they are it may wake up some more people. When they keep ignoring people's humble petitions, not for special favors, but just to be treated with some humanity and dignity, will that not light the fuse that will blow up in the faces of the oppressors?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#52. To: James Deffenbach (#51)
I think this scanner issue may have already lit the fuse. TSA backed down so fast and cordoned off those scanners so quickly that is was a giveaway that they realized too late that they had set off a firestorm. Now they are trying to paper it over with volumes of propaganda - which will work on some of the Sheeple, but those newly woken from their daze may be a more difficult proposition. It is much harder to put the genie back in the bottle.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#53. To: Original_Intent (#0)
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." I keep reading opinions in the newspaper, and on the internet, of people who have no problem giving up their 4th amendment because it makes them feel safe.
-Benjamin Franklin.
A CBS poll says 81 percent of Americans support the use of the scanners.
A Washington Post poll say 64 percent support the scanners.
Only half of Americans think the pat downs go too far.
That's kind of scary.
#54. To: Original_Intent (#52)
ROTFL ... did you fly this past week or were you just "flying" in your own mind? Here, let me help you out of your stupor: www.nytimes.com/2010/11/2....html?partner=rss&emc=rss If a squadron of mad scientists surrounded by supercomputers gathered in a laboratory to try to conjure a single news topic that would blow up large, they could not touch the T.S.A. pat-down story. It began with a Drudge Report link to a video on Nov. 13 of an intrusive pat-down, and then leapt to social media and the rest of the Web. Twitter lighted up, flashing 4,000 posts an hour with cheeky hash tags, and in just the first two days of last week, there were 60 million Google queries for information on the change in the Transportation Security Administration protocol, according to Trendrr, a social media measurement company. Soon enough, an online protest calling for a National Opt-Out Day popped up, with a call to refuse to submit to scans and to clog airports on Wednesday, one of the busiest travel days of the year. Cue the media mushroom cloud: by Tuesday, there were print reports about the new scanning technology, heavy-breathing blog posts about the government using the technology to alter or gather DNA (yow), and every cable channel featured wall-to-wall speculation about what would happen when people got to the airport on Wednesday and how many would be carrying lanterns and pitchforks. “This story tapped right into the central nervous system of the collective consciousness,” said Mark Ghuneim, chief executive of Trendrr. “It was huge.” But then, in the real world, nothing happened. A few passengers opted out and, if anything, lines were shorter because airport security was staffed up and people arrived early just in case. The occasional protester was surrounded not by angry crowds but eager reporters. Under all the buzz, 80 percent of Americans traveling were still encountering the same procedures that have been in place for years. By midday Wednesday, a forlorn CNN correspondent was wandering around during a live shot with nothing to report, with a nearby keening baby the only indication of terminal rage. No word on whether the diaper was breached. The pat-down story was the equivalent of vaporware — it seemed as if something huge was about to happen, but it turned out that it was a story about a story, the noisy, fervent sound of a news system feeding on itself. What made the T.S.A. story so sticky and irresistible, a nearly perfect Perfect Storm? TIMING It arrived during a news season slowed by holidays (how many stories can you do speculating about which turkey will be pardoned by the president?) in the midst of the busiest travel weeks. EXECUTION The government’s below-the-radar rollout of the new protocol (Memo to the T.S.A.: never sneak up on the American public) gave it a conspiratorial sheen. MYSTERY The screening technology seemed ominous, yet cool — like the X-Ray specs advertisements on the backs of comic books that promised to allow you to see through clothing. DISTRUST OF GOVERNMENT At a time of incredibly fractionalized politics, the pat-down was a single issue we could all rally around. For liberals, it was Big Brother grabbing liberties (with both hands) and conservatives once again felt the intrusive touch of Big Government in their pocket. Just in case it didn’t seem wasteful enough, YouTube came through with a video of a shirtless child being patted down by a burly security guard. RELEVANCE Many people hate, yet need, to travel by air. And now, once we get through security, we can expect a host of new indignities on the plane (even longer delays, $5 pillows, flights packed like a Japanese subway). By the way, you know who travels a lot? Reporters. NOTHING. AND EVERYTHING. These incremental changes in technology and intimacy of searches may be a step toward the Big Brotherification of American life, but it is just not that big of a deal outside the media bubble. But the issues at hand were momentous: liberty, security and the American way. DISPLACEMENT Deep in their hearts, Americans know that the country has spent almost a decade on a two-front war that has made them feel no safer. Rather than dwelling on the blood and lucre that have been spilled, it’s a little easier to hate on the guy in the blue uniform wearing a cheesy badge and making $15 an hour. Beats thinking the terrorists have won. RACE AND CLASS Even though air travel is far from luxurious, it is a still a big expense during a time of significant economic upheaval, so the people affected tend to be a little better off and more entitled. While many nonwhite Americans have grown up in a country where they are sometimes searched while merely going about their business — unwarranted stop-and-frisks have gone on for decades — white people aren’t used to having the hands of the state on them without cause. Unfamiliarity breeds outrage. GOOD VISUALS The story has crowds, people in uniforms, conflict and a familiar backdrop, so TV loved it. And the story kicked out all sorts of juicy links to video, umbrage and polemic, so it was more viral than a sneezing passenger in 16E. In a story like this, the crowd of reporters — in this instance, anybody at an airport with a smartphone — is already deployed. If they hit the sweet spot, like the kid who went through Salt Lake City security in a Speedo, millions will see it via YouTube. GENDER The issue of personal searches and enhanced visibility on scans would seem to be a more acute one for women, given the objectification of women in general and greater history of assault. But discussion on Twitter included two times as many men as women, according to Trendrr. Something primal is at work here, that speaks to both machismo — boys don’t touch boys — and certain male insecurities about being visible to strangers. You thought that dream of being in high school in your underwear was bad. I could go on, but you get the idea. A mainstream media that has been run over in the past — the rise of the Tea Party comes to mind — has begun to understand that the Web is a great place to listen as well as publish. “NewsHour” on PBS was among the throngs, with an embeddable widget that let people post to Twitter their experiences in the security lines — so the mainstream media are now on a hair trigger, reacting, and sometimes overreacting, to social media and Web-borne protests. In a sense, the pat-down is a test of a new kind of emergency broadcast system, a hybrid contraption of old and new media, call and response, a place where protests are lodged, articulated and commenced. No one can argue that this episode made us any safer, but then I’ve yet to hear anything that suggests that the scanners and pat-downs do either. E-mail: carr@nytimes.com; twitter.com/carr2n Experience the new Times app for iPadTM, now with all the sections, articles, photos and video you expect from The New York Times.TSA backed down so fast and cordoned off those scanners so quickly that is was a giveaway that they realized too late that they had set off a firestorm. Now they are trying to paper it over with volumes of propaganda - which will work on some of the Sheeple, but those newly woken from their daze may be a more difficult proposition. It is much harder to put the genie back in the bottle.
A Media False Alarm Over the T.S.A. By DAVID CARR, Published: November 28, 2010, minutes ago
There was nothing going on other than you exposed yourself in publick again, O_I. I keep trying to explain to YOU that you can't keep BSing everyone.
#55. To: Original_Intent (#52)
Yeah, and they aren't doing themselves any real long-term favors groping people either. When word gets out about the horrible diseases that can be spread by people who are "less than careful" about changing their gloves between I think this scanner issue may have already lit the fuse.
victims "customers" and knowing that some of those customers could be carrying any of a number of terrible things you don't want, it will be another nail in their coffin. I would love to see the TSA die the death of Dracula in the sunlight.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#56. To: James Deffenbach (#55)
Given the full court press that they are doing catapulting the propaganda, and orchestrating polls, I think that this issue HAS struck a chord. I don't think it is going to die. If anything I expect it to get larger. The TSA's masters really really do not want to back down on this for a variety of reasons. 1. Admitting the scanners ARE a radiation risk after they have soothingly tried to reassure people they are not undercuts and creates a discount on any further TSA propaganda. 2. Since the purpose of the Scanners and Groping is really not about security backing down tacitly admits that. The real purpose of Grope-n-Scan is right out of the Red Chinese Mao Re-education camps - to humiliate and enforce submission. 3. Backing down also empowers people and shows them that their opposition to something the government was doing that they object to has had an effect. From the point of view of those pushing this psychiatric conditioning program that is bad because it is directly counter to their intent in forcing submission to violations of common rights. This is the really big one because a lot of the programs being instituted are also establishing the enforcement framework of their police state. The TSA can best be likened to a branch of the East German Stasi. Recall that Marcus Wolfe, the former Head of the Stasi, was hired by Der Ministry Uff Vaterland Sekurity as a consultant.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#57. To: buckeroo (#54)
There you go again buckie - catapulting the propaganda. The rapid action by the TSA's masters to cordon off the Grope-n-Scan lines on Thanksgiving Eve was a dead giveaway that they were well aware that this had resonated with the thinking public. You can cut and paste all of the Lamestream Media PR Pieces you wish but it does not change that fact. They are covering the reaction to it not because they want to but because they cannot avoid it and remain credible in any form. Arguments to the contrary are simply more spin/propaganda. Another giveaway is the use of threats of "blacklisting" to FORCE people to submit and comply. You don't do that if a majority of people are gracefully Baaing through the lines. As the information travels through the grapevine I think it likely that the protests will be growing in strength not diminishing. The bottom line is that this was so outrageous that people have taken notice. Sure the Sheeple will continue to Baa on cue, but a few more have been woken from their daze.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#58. To: Original_Intent (#56)
Excellent post, O_I.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
#59. To: Original_Intent (#57)
Where was all the ruckus at the airports (anywhere around the US) based on "opt-out", then? Maejically, disappeared didn't they? Why? Twas a figment of speculative invention based upon gossip and innuendo.
Arguments to the contrary are simply more spin/propaganda.
#60. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#59)
The TSA turned off the body scanners. The TSA caved in to the protesters.
Where was all the ruckus at the airports (anywhere around the US) based on "opt-out", then? Maejically, disappeared didn't they? Why? Twas a figment of speculative invention based upon gossip and innuendo.
#61. To: TwentyTwelve (#60) (Edited)
No, they didn't. The TSA continued using their "random selection process" without alteration or change. In fact, there were a few optouts... but very, very few. I heard that at Atlanta, GA (ATL) out of some 40,000 selected for scanning, about 20 folks opted out. [The twenty OPTED for pat-downs in other words]; and not one person was escorted out to retrieve their ticket fare]....
#62. To: buckeroo (#61)
You have bad hearing. I hear they were turned off.
God is always good!
#63. To: RickyJ (#62)
Nope. Another one thousand new AIT scanners go into service this next coming year in the USA. Please continue paying your federal taxes on-time... you are helping the cause!
I hear they were turned off.
#64. To: buckeroo (#63)
Hey you lying sack of shit, I live in Atlanta and the damn machines were almost all off. "One day before the the pre-Thanksgiving wave crests, Atlanta's airport was notably subdued, vendors and travelers said, with minimal wait times and limited, if any, use of the controversial full-body scanners," the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported. Atlanta-Hartsfield, a Delta hub, is the busiest airport in the nation. Many of the scanners at the main security checkpoint were roped off at mid-day Tuesday. Transportation Security Administration spokesman Jonathan Allen said travelers should expect the enhanced security measures, such as the scanners, to operate "just as they would any other day." He didn't address why the full body scanners appeared to not be in use Tuesday.
God is always good!
#65. To: James Deffenbach (#58)
Thank You kind Sir.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#66. To: buckeroo (#61)
Where did you hear this?
I heard that at Atlanta, GA (ATL) out of some 40,000 selected for scanning, about 20 folks opted out.
#67. To: RickyJ (#64)
ROTFL; they must have a new "neutral switch" added. Is it a BIG RED switch or a button someone presses?
I live in Atlanta and the damn machines were all off.
#68. To: buckeroo (#61)
www.redstate.com/erick/20...rport-security-as-parody/ Airport Security as Parody Posted by Erick Erickson (Profile) Saturday, November 27th at 9:06AM EST Pejman Yousefzadeh has a great post on airport security. You’ve probably seen similar things. Throughout the country the full body x-ray machines were turned off for travel the day before Thanksgiving and have largely been unused for several days. Now, the TSA says there is no official policy, but it seems hard to believe it is sheer coincidence that on the busiest travel days of the year at the largest airports across the country the full body scanners were just . . . randomly?. . . turned off. In fact, we can be certain the TSA did it to overcome what they feared would be an organized movement to take the full body pat down combined with the high volume of traffic in general. With that being the case, why have the full body scanners and pat downs? If they aren’t needed on the busiest travel days of the year — the days terrorists would target for maximum collateral damage — why have them at all? Again, it is worth pointing out that every incident to which the TSA has responded by increasing the security theater have originated from airports overseas and not subject to the TSA’s airport security theater. By the way, you should be reading Pejman regularly.
#69. To: TwentyTwelve (#66)
In conjunction with one of my posts a while back.... opt out fizzles today; you even posted a cutie picture not making heads or tails of the thread.
#70. To: buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass, RickyJ, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, wudidiz, all (#67)
Scandal: TSA Turns Off Scanners To Undermine Protest In Crude PR Stunt TSA Turns Scanners Off to Avoid Nat'l Opt-Out | Chandler's Watch TSA Turns Off Scanners, does "normal" pat downs Scandal: TSA Turns Off Scanners To Undermine Protest In Crude PR .. Fliers claim TSA turning scanners off Did The TSA Turn Off Scanners Today To Stop The Protest ? TSA turns off naked body scanners to avoid opt-out day protests ... TSA turns off naked body scanners to avoid opt-out day protests The Survival Station - Scandal: TSA Turns Off Scanners To ... Twitter buzzing with claims TSA has deactivated body scanners, page 1
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#71. To: Original_Intent (#70)
I checked out a few of your links... Drudge (WOW, now that is too much) FreeRepublick ... (too cool, are you donating to the cause) and a few other links that are just chit-chat channels and borrowed re-hashed gossip. I am learning more and more about you everyday.
#72. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass, RickyJ, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, wudidiz, all (#70)
Great links. It is obvious that the TSA caved in and that the MSM is desperate to try and spin this.
#73. To: buckeroo (#54)
Full-Body Scanners Increase Cancer Risk
#74. To: TwentyTwelve, buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass, RickyJ, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, wudidiz, all (#72)
It is obvious that the TSA caved in and that the MSM is desperate to try and spin this. Thanks. Yes, they ended up damned either way. If they went ahead and used the Pornoscanners then they were going to have a lot of P.O.'ed people, but by shuttering them they revealed just how really unnecessary they are. Now, having shuttered them, as you correctly observe, the Spin Cycle is going into overdrive to downplay their actions and divert by putting out the false story that there were very few "opt outs" when the reason there were very few "Opt Outs" is because they shuttered and roped off the Pornoscanners so there was nothing to opt out of.
Great links.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#75. To: Original_Intent (#74) (Edited)
At the Atlanta airport they try to use stats to make it look like there was a very low amount of people opting out of using the scanners the 24th by saying out of 47,000 fliers only 39 opted out of the scanners. What they fail to mention is that the scanners were off for most of the day and very few out of the 47,000 were chosen to go through the scanners. The rest went through the metal detectors only. I wouldn't be surprised if as little as 200 were chosen to go through the scanners. Which would make 39 opting out almost a 20% opt-out rate.
God is always good!
#76. To: Original_Intent (#74)
The MSM got caught lying once again.
...the Spin Cycle is going into overdrive to downplay their actions and divert by putting out the false story that there were very few "opt outs" when the reason there were very few "Opt Outs" is because they shuttered and roped off the Pornoscanners so there was nothing to opt out of.
#77. To: RickyJ (#75)
I do not find that surprising or your guesstimate unreasonable. The Spin Machine is just cranked up to try and wash the egg off of the TSA's collective face. Also if the Opt Out Day protest had been carried out on a larger scale, with the scanners on, that 20% Opt Out rate would have completely snarled boarding and that would have been a powerful statement. One which the Ministry uff Vaterland Sekurity could not tolerate but could not prevent except by killing the scanners.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#78. To: TwentyTwelve (#76)
Yes. To all but the brain dead it should be apparent at this point that the Lamestream Mediawhores say exactly what their teleprompter reads regardless of whether it is true or not. And the Print Presstitutes write exactly what they are told to write.
The MSM got caught lying once again.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#79. To: Original_Intent (#1)
Despite this not being confirmed from more that one source I decided to put it up anyway as, given the evident mindset of our would-be rulers, this is all too plausible. However, it could also be planted agitprop. So, I am not yet taking this as solid until we have more confirming data. It is however, something to watch. INGSOC file: TSA Administrative Directive: Opt-Outters To Be Considered “Domestic Extremists”
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#80. To: GreyLmist (#79)
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#81. To: Original_Intent (#0)
Attempt, hell, they just did it with the full approval of Congress. Sure, a few like Ron Paul squawked about it, but rest assured that nothing will be done other than a designated few congresscritters making gas-passing speeches accompanied by feigned indignation and furious finger-poking towards the clouds.
They are in effect attempting to carve out an exception to the 4th Amendment rights enshrined in the Bill of Rights.
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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#82. To: All (#81)
a Colorado lawyer and his daughters had a bad experience flying to San Diego, now he's filing for an injuction to stop TSA from doing this I'm sure some judge will be in suicide mode and want to approve the injunction.
Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
#83. To: X-15 (#81)
You're likely right on the craven Congresscritters, but at this point their reaction is almost irrelevant as the general public finally appears to be developing a little spine more rigid than Jell-O. The proof that the people in authority got the warning was the cordoning off of the Scanners, and no groping on Nov. 24th. I think this move by the TSA shook a lot of people and made them realize just how close we are to entering into a full Police State. I am still hoping that can be averted.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#84. To: Red Jones (#82)
'Baywatch' Beauty Donna D'Errico Feels Overexposed After TSA Scan
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