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Title: The Real Problem with Drugs
Source: The Libertarian Enterprise
URL Source: [None]
Published: Nov 29, 2010
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2010-11-29 10:46:24 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 198
Comments: 16

The real problem with drugs is not Mexicans supplying drugs, no matter how vicious and murderous the drug cartels are. When there is a demand, there is always going to be a supply. It's an economic law, and no one can stop it.

Nether is the problem the demand for drugs by Americans, no matter how many of them are the kinds of people who want to do nothing but take drugs. As a wise man once said two thousand years ago, the poor are always with us. Not financially poor, but poor in spirit and character.

The problem is that which gets in between the supply and demand: the State. Specifically, grossly overpaid, underworked, not-very-bright, self-deluded bureaucrats who think the force and fraud of the State can stop both the supply and the demand, though killing and prison.

Let's do a thought experiment and imagine all the Drug Warrior bureaucrats are shipped off to Hell, which is where all of them are going away, and quite deservedly so. Then let's make drugs legal.

What would happen?

Within one day the drug cartels would collapse, since their billions of dollars of profit would immediately disappear—poof, just like that. All the violent crime, including murder, associated with illegal drugs would evaporate on the spot.

The demand for drugs would still be there, but the crime associated with getting the money to pay for the drugs would disappear. Our prison population would cease exploding, since many of those incarcerated are there for drug offenses.

Would people stop using drugs? No. But the problems associated with getting the drugs would disappear. Would real crimes disappear? No. But crimes created by State interference would.

What has to be discovered is how many real crimes would remain when the "crimes" created by State interference cease to exist. Thought experiments can only go so far with that.

As Thomas Sowell and many others have noticed, there are very few solutions in life, only trade-offs. The problem with the lackeys who work for the State is that they think there are solutions, always involving laws, guns and prisons.

If drugs were legal, there might be an increase in drug use. No one knows. If there is an increase, that is the trade-off of making drugs legal. But at the same time, all of the horrendous problems caused by drugs being illegal would disappear.

There is one big problem that would be solved with making drugs legal: no more Drug Warrior bureaucrats. It's not even a trade off. It's one of the few cases in life where there is a solution with nothing bad created someplace else.

That is a solution I think everyone can live with. Except, of course, for the bureaucrat who would be off of the taxpayer dime and have to get real jobs. That is, if any of them are qualified for anything in the private sector, and I really doubt that.

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

Spot-on correct - thanks.

(The same could be said of all our other manufactured Wars on _______ .)

Lod  posted on  2010-11-29   11:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod, turtle (#1)

Spot-on correct - thanks.

There the two of you go again, ganging up on me in an oblique fashion.

Both of you are pointing fingers at olde Cyni, just cause I was a career gubmint slug (drone). Now I feel so bad.

As for the drugs thing. I dont know what is the correct method. Both of you recall that even China had to put a stop to the availability of drugs. Then and now, they employed a harsh but cheap and effective method.

You sell or possess drugs, you are shot. It cured the opium problem fast, as it was not the Chinese that were the purveyors, rather it was foreign scum, some from America.

Bang, they do not have a problem with drugs.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-29   11:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom, Lod (#2) (Edited)

That cure won't work in the U.S. Besides, the Chinese don't seem to value other people's lives all that much, including other Chinese.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2010-11-29   11:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Turtle, Cynicom, 4 (#3)

The Chinese .gov cares about their people as much as does our .gov about us.

Not a whit.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-29   11:29:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod, Turtle, Eric Stratton (#4)

That cure won't work in the U.S. Besides, the Chinese don't seem to value other people's lives all that much, including other Chinese.

The Chinese .gov cares about their people as much as does our .gov about us.

Not a whit.

Geez, just damn.

Neither of you mention bashing gubmint workers, slugs, drones, as all being misfits in life. What with a truculent Eric and now you two, I am out numbered, out gunned and out of luck.

Thats ok, I feel good this morning, sticks and stones etc etc. hehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-29   11:37:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

Neither of you mention bashing gubmint workers, slugs, drones, as all being misfits in life.

My ex-girlfriend used to work for the Government Printing Office. She's got an MBA in Accounting and Finance from the University of Chicago, made 120K working for the feds, did almost nothing, and hated her job so much she quit after three years and now works for herself and makes half the money, but is a lot happier.

The idea of someone spending their lives working for the feds, playing politics, working their way up top of the hierarchy...sheeh, I couldn't do it.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2010-11-29   11:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Turtle, Cynicom, 4 (#6)

Back when, I lasted two whole weeks at the USPS before bailing out.

It was horrible.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-29   11:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Turtle, LOd (#6)

The idea of someone spending their lives working for the feds, playing politics, working their way up top of the hierarchy...sheeh, I couldn't do it.

I couldnt and didnt.

I fought every step of the way and lost every battle.

However the slugs I worked with, did perform a needed service, for doing so, after twenty years we could retire and we did.

Tell me how good I had it. Starting at KIDL for the grand total of $4080 a year, no health insurance, nothing, nada. One weekend off a month, work nites, days, holidays, rotating shifts, then years later as the pay became better, everyone wanted in.

Only one thing lower than a slug or a drone, that is a Zek.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-11-29   12:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Turtle (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-11-29   12:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Turtle (#6)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-11-29   13:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Turtle (#6)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-11-29   13:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Eric Stratton (#9)

Another unmentioned benefit would be a reduction in profits for the CIA/FedGov/Bankers, etc.

Aww shit ... there goes black ops !

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Revere God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man".

noone222  posted on  2010-11-29   13:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: noone222 (#12)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-11-29   13:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Turtle (#0)

Well, what do you know? When you aren't yammering about how women are always trying to get inside your shell you can write a pretty good article.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-11-29   13:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: James Deffenbach (#14)

When you aren't yammering about how women are always trying to get inside your shell

They ARE.

The abuse I put up with...

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2010-11-29   14:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: turtle (#1)

which is where all of them are going away

i think you meant for the word 'away' to be 'anyway'. funny line, & good column.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-11-29   15:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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