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Title: GOP majority in House will push to end 'birthright citizenship'
Source: SACBEE
URL Source: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/11/18/v- ... jority-in-house-will-push.html
Published: Nov 29, 2010
Author: Rob Hotakainen
Post Date: 2010-11-29 18:55:31 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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GOP majority in House will push to end 'birthright citizenship'

rhotakainen@mcclatchydc.com

WASHINGTON – As one of its first acts, the new Congress will consider denying citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants who are born in the United States.

Those children, who are now automatically granted citizenship at birth, will be one of the first targets of the Republican-led House when it convenes in January.

GOP Rep. Steve King of Iowa, the incoming chairman of the subcommittee that oversees immigration, is expected to push a bill that would deny "birthright citizenship" to such children.

The measure, assailed by critics as unconstitutional, is an indication of how the new majority intends to flex its muscles on the volatile issue of illegal immigration.

The idea has a growing list of supporters, including Republican Reps. Tom McClintock of Elk Grove and Dan Lungren of Gold River, but it has aroused intense opposition, as well.

"I don't like it," said Chad Silva, statewide policy analyst for the Latino Coalition for a Healthy California. "It's been something that's been a part of America for a very long time. … For us, it sort of flies in the face of what America is about."

Republicans, Silva said, are "going in there and starting to monkey with the Constitution."

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution, ratified in 1868, guarantees citizenship to anyone born or naturalized in the United States. It was intended to make sure that children of freed slaves were granted U.S. citizenship.

While opponents say King's bill would clearly be unconstitutional, backers say the 14th Amendment would not apply. The amendment states that anyone born in the United States and "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is a citizen.

King said the amendment would not apply to the children of illegal immigrants because their parents should not be in the country anyway. He said immigration law should not create incentives for people to enter the country illegally and that it's creating an "anchor baby industry."

"Many of these illegal aliens are giving birth to children in the United States so that they can have uninhibited access to taxpayer-funded benefits and to citizenship for as many family members as possible," King said.

An estimated 340,000 of the 4.3 million babies born in the United States in 2008 were the children of undocumented immigrants, according to an analysis of Census Bureau data by the Pew Hispanic Center done last year.

The issue is dividing Republicans, too.

"We find both this rhetoric and this unconstitutional conduct reprehensible, insulting and a poor reflection upon Republicans," DeeDee Blasé, the founder of Somos Republicans, a Latino GOP organization based in the Southwestern states, said in a letter to House Republican leaders.

Silva said the Republican plan is "not the fix," adding that the citizenship of children born to immigrants was never an issue during the immigration tide at the turn of the 20th century and that it shouldn't be now.

"That's our strength," he said. "And to start splitting hairs like that will only make the immigration issue worse."

Democratic Rep. Doris Matsui of Sacramento called King's plan "both unconstitutional and shortsighted."

"The 14th Amendment to the Constitution grants American citizenship to anyone born on American soil," she said. "I firmly believe we must reform the current immigration system, but we need to do so comprehensively with policies that respect our nation's history, strengthen our borders, and help our economy."

McClintock outlined his position last summer in a rebuttal to a newspaper editorial: "If illegal immigration is to be rewarded with birthright citizenship, public benefits and amnesty, it becomes impossible to maintain our immigration laws and the process of assimilation that they assure," he wrote.

McClintock noted that the United Kingdom, Australia, Ireland, New Zealand, France and India have all changed their laws in recent years to require that at least one parent be a legal resident for the child to become a legal citizen.

Lungren, who served as California's attorney general from 1990 to 1998 introduced a similar bill in 2007, but it did not pass the House, which was controlled by Democrats at the time.

His bill called for defining what "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means. Lungren proposed that the clause would apply to any person born to a parent who is a citizen, a legal alien or an alien serving in the military. Subscribe to *Illegal Immigration*

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#1. To: All (#0)

I imagine that the fight to end birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens will be long and bitter. Nevertheless, it should start as soon as possible because giving automatic citizenship to offspring of illegal aliens is a serious misinterpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment.

Let the battle begin.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-11-29   18:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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November 22, 2010 4:30 PM
Steve King: "Birthright Citizenship" Bill Could be Soon


Posted by Brian Montopoli


65 comments .


Iowa Republican Rep. Steve King said in an interview with CBS News today that he is "looking at dropping a bill early in the 112th Congress" to end the practice of giving U.S. citizenship to U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants.


King, who will likely head the immigration subcommittee when the new Congress begins work in January, predicted that hearings on the bill would not be immediate, since there are "other priorities" to be dealt with. He said he expected hearings "in the next couple months" after the legislation is introduced.


The practice of offering citizenship to babies born to illegal immigrants in the United States is known as "birthright citizenship," and defenders say it is protected by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. The 14th Amendment opens this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."


King says that the clause "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means that babies born to illegal immigrants do not necessarily have Constitutionally-protected citizenship rights. He also argues that it is important to consider the history behind the amendment, which was adopted in 1868.


"The 14th Amendment and that specific clause was put in place immediately post-Civil War for the purpose of ensuring that babies born to newly freed slaves would be American citizens," he said, adding that it had nothing to do with citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants.


At left, King discusses the issue on Fox News Friday.


King told CBS News that the "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause was included at the time to exempt babies born to diplomats and certain Native Americans who were living on reservations, and that the clause can also be applied to children born to illegal immigrants.


The Iowa congressman argues the change is necessary because of an "anchor baby industry" that exists to exploit the law, which he says incentivizes immigrants to enter the United States to have children. King says that between one in six and one in 12 (or between 340,000 and 720,000) babies born in the United States are born to illegal immigrants, who take advantage of the baby's legal status to gain government benefits.


Those on the other side say the number of people who are motivated to come to America to create "anchor babies" is small and argue it could be dealt with by outlawing the practice, not eliminating birthright citizenship.


Eliminating birthright citizenship "would punish the innocent children of undocumented immigrants, which flies in the face of American values," according to Michele Waslin, Senior Policy Analyst at the Immigration Policy Center.


Asked about criticisms that eliminating birthright citizenship goes against the American values of inclusiveness, King said that by critics' arguments "everybody born on the planet should be included" as citizens.


"You have to draw the line somewhere," he said.


As McClatchy reports, Republican Reps. Tom McClintock and Dan Lungren are among those who agree with King on the issue.


Americans are split on birthright citizenship: 49 percent said in an August CBS News poll that the law should be kept as it is, while 47 percent said it should be changed.



King said he believes a law to change the policy should be passed without worrying about potential legal challenges. If the law is ultimately struck down in the courts, King said, he would push for a Constitutional Amendment to address the issue, though he acknowledged "it would be difficult" to get an amendment passed.


If a law ending birthright citizenship passes the House, it would still need to get through the Democrat-led Senate and then be signed into law by President Obama to take effect - an unlikely proposition. King said he views his effort as just one step in a process, comparing his work on birthright citizenship to the six years he spent working to make English Iowa's official language, which took place in 2002.


"I have a perspective about the degree of difficulty, but I think you have to do the right thing," he said.


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U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-11-29   18:58:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#2)

It's too late.

The horse has left the barn.

Lady X  posted on  2010-11-29   19:00:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

A Paul for President!
Whites need to be shown darkie won't vote for him.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-11-29   19:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

The short story -

If you're here illegally, and drop a kid, it's here illegally also.

Back home mama y kiddo.

Adios, illegals.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-29   19:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

The constitution is nul and void. Only the laws matter.

DWornock  posted on  2010-11-29   19:31:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

King said the amendment would not apply to the children of illegal immigrants because their parents should not be in the country anyway. He said immigration law should not create incentives for people to enter the country illegally and that it's creating an "anchor baby industry."

For these poor people to be having babies for the sole reason of staying in the USA is not good at all. Not good for them and not good for the citizens of the USA and certainly not good for their new born baby. I honestly would rather let them stay here than keep this stupid law on the books.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-11-29   20:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#1) (Edited)

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution, ratified in 1868??? This statement is 100% unadulterated horse shit.

Hi Boys & Girls,

See: Congressional Record PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE 90th CONGRESS FIRST SESSION VOLUME 113 PART 12 JUNE 12, 1967, TO JUNE 20, 1967 (PAGES 15309 TO 16558) UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE, WASHINGTON, 1967

THE 14TH AMENDMENT—EQUAL PROTECTION LAW OR TOOL OF USURPATION

snip ..Through the cooperation of intellectual educators, we have subjected ourselves to accept destructive use and meaning of words and phrases. We blindly accept new meanings and changed values to alter our traditional thoughts. We have tolerantly permitted the habitual misuse of words to serve as a vehicle to abandon our foundations and goals. Thus, the present use and expansion of the 14th amendment is a sham—serving as a crutch and hoodwink to precipitate a quasi-legal approach for overthrow of the tender balances and protections of limitation found in the Constitution. But, interestingly enough, the 14th amendment—whether ratified or not—was but the expression of emotional out¬pouring of public sentiment following the War Between the States. Its obvious purpose and intent was but to free human beings from ownership as a chattel by other humans. Its aim was no more than to free the slaves. As our politically appointed Federal judiciary proceeds down their chosen path of chaotic departure from the peoples' government by substituting their personal law rationalized under the 14th amendment, their actions and verbiage brand them and their team as secessionists—rebels with pens instead of guns—seeking to divide our Union. They must be stopped. Public opinion must be aroused. The Union must and shall be preserved.

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(5) That copies of this Resolution, duly certified, together with a copy of the treatise on "The Unconstitutionality of the 14th Amendment" by Judge L. H. Perez, be for-warded to the Governors and Secretaries of State of each state in the Union, and to the Secretaries of the United States Senate and House of Congress, and to the Louisiana Congressional delegation, a copy hereof to be published in the Congressional Record. VAIL M. DELONY, Speaker of the House of Representatives. C. C. Avcocx, Lieutenant Governor and President of the Senate. THE 14TH AMENDMENT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL The purported 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution is and should be held to be ineffective, invalid, null, void and unconstitutional for the following reasons: 1. The Joint Resolution proposing said Amendment was not submitted to or adopted by a Constitutional Congress. Article I, Section 3, and Article V of the U.S. Constitution. 2. The Joint Resolution was not submitted to the President for his approval. Article I, Section '7. 3. The proposed 14th Amendment was rejected by more than one-fourth of all the States then in the Union, and it was never ratified by three-fourths of all the States in the Union. Article V. I. THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL CONGRESS The U.S. Constitution provides: Article I, Section 3. "The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Sen-ators from each State • • •" Article V provides: "No State, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate." The fact that 23 Senators had been unlawfully excluded from the U.S. Senate, in order to secure a two-thirds vote for adoption of the Joint Resolution proposing the 14th Amendment is shown by Resolutions of protest adopted by the following State Legislatures: The New Jersey Legislature by Resolution of March 27, 1868, protested as follows: "The said proposed amendment not having yet received the assent of the three-fourths of the states, which is necessary to make it valid, the natural and constitutional right of this state to withdraw its assent is undeniable • • •." "That it being necessary by the constitution that every amendment to the same should be proposed by two-thirds of both houses of congress, the authors of said proposition, for the purpose of securing the assent of the requisite majority, determined to, and did, exclude from the said two houses eighty representatives from eleven states of the union, upon the pretence that there were no such states in the Union; but, finding that two-thirds of the remainder of the said houses could not be brought to assent to the said proposition, they deliberately formed and carried out the design of mutilating the integrity of the United States senate, and without any pretext or justification, other than the possession of the power, without the right, and in palpable violation of the constitution, ejected a member of their own body, representing this state, and thus practically denied to New Jersey its equal suffrage in the senate, and thereby nominally secured the vote of two-thirds of the said houses."' The Alabama Legislature protested against being deprived of representation in the Sen¬ate of the U.S. Congress? The Texas Legislature by Resolution on October 15, 1866, protested as follows: "The amendment to the Constitution pro¬posed by this joint resolution as Article XIV is presented to the Legislature of Texas for its action thereon, under Article V of that Constitution. This Article V, providing the mode of making amendments to that instrument, contemplates the participation by all the States through their representatives in Congress, in proposing amendments. As representatives from nearly one-third of the States were excluded from the Congress pro¬posing the amendments, the constitutional requirement was not complied with; it was violated in letter and in spirit; and the pro¬posing of these amendments to States which were excluded from all participation in their initiation in Congress, is a nullity." The Arkansas Legislature, by Resolution on December 17, 1866, protested as follows: ...etc.

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"Hence this amendment has not been pro-posed by 'two-thirds of both Houses' of a legally constituted Congress, and is not, Constitutionally or legitimately, before a single Legislature for ratification."

Yours in Observing the Author of this BS Article as a Useful Idiot, Patrick

In effect, it’s (The Holacaust Inc.) become like a grotesque doll wielded by witch doctors, used to keep individuals from asking too many questions, from thinking for themselves and stepping out of line.

PatrickHenry  posted on  2010-11-29   20:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

I'll get the supporting information I have to McClintock's and Lungren's offices. I'm actually in Lungren's district.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-11-29   20:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Lady X (#3)

hi Lady, how've you been?

christine  posted on  2010-11-29   21:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

I hope they push like hell to get this to (at least) a vote. If they can pass it, it will be a blow to the lovers of illegals.

BORDER, LANGUAGE, CULTURE = AMERICA.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-29   21:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

I hope they push like hell to get this to (at least) a vote. If they can pass it, it will be a blow to the lovers of illegals.

At the last minute they'll slip in language that will allow any illegal who has a job or even the promise of employment from a GOP contributor and/or "approved employer" to immediately receive a green card.

Indians will have a promise of permanent resident status before they even leave Mumbai, based on their grades in computer science from U-of-C; The University of Calcutta.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-11-29   22:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: HOUNDDAWG (#12)

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, and it would serve as a terminal cancer to the 'new and improved' GOP'ers.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-29   22:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised,and it would serve as a terminal cancer to the 'new and improved' GOP'ers.

I'd be surprised for the exact reason you mentioned,

Pull any shenanigans and you'll get a well qualified & funded challenger in the primary. There's a new sheriff in town and he's still pissed.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-11-29   22:40:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Flintlock (#14)

We'll know real soon if the white shoe boys got the memo. I can't see how it could have been missed.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-11-29   22:53:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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