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Title: SB 510 Passed
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Published: Nov 30, 2010
Author: the senate
Post Date: 2010-11-30 11:16:12 by Lod
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Views: 341
Comments: 19

That's all I know at this time.

We need a Treason category here.

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#1. To: Lod (#0)

That's all I know at this time.

Gee thanks ! (Now we're even).

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Revere God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man".

noone222  posted on  2010-11-30   11:18:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#0)

Shit... My backyard garden is now a crime... mailing packages into the US over 1 pound is a crime. Downloading the TV shows I miss is a crime... freaky/.... it is like a noose being tightened...

titorite  posted on  2010-11-30   11:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: titorite, 4 (#2)

Make no mistake, we are the enemy of the state.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-30   11:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#0)

www.allvoices.com/contrib...r-something-else-entirely

S.B. 510: A Food "Safety" Bill or Something Else Entirely?

New York City : NY : USA | Nov 03, 2009

By James J. Gormley

Do you grow heirloom tomatoes you sell on your own property or at a local farmer’s market? If so, you will be in for a whopper of a surprise if Senator Durbin’s Senate Bill 510 (S.B. 510) passes: you may be receiving a visit from inspectors.

Products not grown according to designated standards will be considered adulterated and your business records will be subject to warrantless searches by inspectors from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), all this without any evidence that you have violated any law.

Wonder why the National Guard or Federal agents have effectively imposed martial law by quarantining your town? Under S.B. 510’s House counterpart bill, H.R. 2749 (Section 133b, “Authority to Prohibit or Restrict the Movement of Food”), sponsored by Congressman Dingell, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will have the power to prohibit all movement of all food within a geographic area, whether the food is in your grandmother’s grocery bag in her Toyota Hybrid or on a flatbed. No court order will be needed, just a phone call to the appropriate state official and a public announcement will be sufficient.

Upset that raw milk or raw milk cheeses (like feta) are no longer available in the U.S.? This could well happen thanks to the “performance standards” powers that would be granted to the FDA by S.B. 510, especially since the agency has made it clear that it is vehemently opposed to the consumption of raw milk products.

Amazed that U.S. food safety regulations strangely match those of other countries? Well, Section 306 of S.B. 510 would require “Recommendations to harmonize requirements under the Codex Alimentarius.”

And what about food supplement manufacturers, suppliers, distributors and health food stores? Will they be ensnared in this bill’s draconian, 1984-esque net? Very possibly so.

This all may seem far-fetched, but theoretically, this new law would give the government all this authority.

S.B. 510 (which would cost Americans $825 billion in 2010 alone) and the House of Representatives version of this bill, H.R. 2749, which did pass under suspended rules, do not address the root causes of the U.S.'s food safety problems, which were highlighted in both a recent campaign by the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund (FTCLDF) and by a letter to 99 U.S. senators by the Ranchers-Cattlemen Action Legal Fund (R-CALF USA).

According to Citizens for Health (www.citizens.org/), if this proposed law is enacted it would:

• Undermine DSHEA and move the U.S. one step closer to harmonizing our standards under Codex with those of supplement-restrictive regimes like the European Union. (DSHEA, or the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act, asserts that supplements are food and are safe for consumption unless proven otherwise – ensuring that millions of Americans are able to enjoy access to safe, effective and affordable dietary supplements).

• Give the FDA unprecedented control over farms and direct-to-consumer distributors. If passed, the bills would charge facilities an annual $500 registration fee, require additional record keeping, and expand FDA authority to quarantine geographic areas for alleged food safety problems – all without significantly improving food safety.

• Cost U.S. taxpayers trillions of dollars ($825 billion in 2010 alone) while providing fewer physical inspections and less food safety overall.

• Harm U.S. organic farmers by imposing overlapping regulations.

• Hurt food supplements and health-food stores by imposing standards that are already covered by the AER (Adverse Event Reporting) Law, cGMPs (current Good Manufacturing Practices) and food facility registration.

• Cripple local food co-ops, farm stands, independent ranchers and artisanal food producers by imposing unnecessary standards and unfair bureaucratic burdens.

Clearly, S. 510, while purporting to increase food safety would actually leave consumers more vulnerable to foodborne disease since the FDA would be required to use a risky, risk-based food safety system rather than doing old-fashioned, effective physical, on-site inspections in plants, factory farms and slaughterhouses, where the actual food safety concerns are.

Furthermore, the U.S. has abrogated its duty to inspect and enforce food safety standards, both here and abroad, by allowing processing plants to regulate themselves under a failed system; and it has embraced policies that have driven independent U.S. farmers and ranchers out of business and replaced them with corporate-owned, industrialized food production units that are known to cut food safety corners to maximize corporate profits.

So what can consumers do? One thing consumers can do is click here for an opportunity to learn more about this bill and to send a letter to their senators opposing S.B. 510 as it is currently written.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-11-30   12:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: titorite (#2)

Could it be that the restriction on the weight limit of the items being sent is on shippers, not mailers? What I mean by that is that commercial shippers--FedEx, UPS, etc., have somewhat different rules than the Post Office. And it could be that the new rule applies to items being shipped by entities other than the USPS. I don't know, just considering the possibility.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-11-30   12:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TwentyTwelve (#4)

Thanks for this.

This, if enacted, will be much, much worse than kenyan-kare.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-30   12:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#0)

We need a Treason category here.

Could this possibly be the work of the union(s) again? Protecting truckers, pickers, etc?

I hate this shit ... it is ANTI-DEMOCRATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phant2000  posted on  2010-11-30   12:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#6)

Thanks for this.

This, if enacted, will be much, much worse than kenyan-kare.

The article I posted was dated Nov 03, 2009.

Not sure what was in the Bill actually passed today.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-11-30   12:08:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TwentyTwelve (#4)

Upset that raw milk or raw milk cheeses (like feta) are no longer available in the U.S.? This could well happen thanks to the “performance standards” powers that would be granted to the FDA by S.B. 510, especially since the agency has made it clear that it is vehemently opposed to the consumption of raw milk products.

i eat and drink nothing but raw milk and cheese. i get these products from a farmer in Schulenburg. i wonder how long before they shut him down. unbelievable.

christine  posted on  2010-11-30   13:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#9)

Tell him to keep no records of anyone, or any sale, anywhere.

Lod  posted on  2010-11-30   13:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#9)

i eat and drink nothing but raw milk and cheese.

That must get very boring. >(;^{]

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-11-30   13:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Phant2000 (#7)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-11-30   14:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#9)

now that you posted the locale, it is a matter of minutes before the swat team converges!

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
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Artisan  posted on  2010-11-30   18:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: ghostdogtxn, Phant2000, christine, farmfriend, all (#12)

We need a Treason category here.

Could this possibly be the work of the union(s) again? Protecting truckers, pickers, etc?

I hate this shit ... it is ANTI-DEMOCRATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's big agriculture pushing this.

In particular Monsatan as they are trying to gain complete control of the seed market and enforce the use of their unhealthy GMO seeds and the weeds that result.

As well the continued growth of small organic farms is regarded as a threat by the controllers as it removes food control from their hands as a weapon to control and reduce the population of, as Henry Kissinger quaintly put it, the "Useless Eaters" i.e., you, me, your neighbor, etc., ...

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-11-30   18:34:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#0)

http://www.rollcall.com/news/-201012-1.html

House May Block Food Safety Bill Over Senate Error

By John Stanton

A food safety bill that has burned up precious days of the Senate’s lame-duck session appears headed back to the chamber because Democrats violated a constitutional provision requiring that tax provisions originate in the House.

By pre-empting the House’s tax-writing authority, Senate Democrats appear to have touched off a power struggle with members of their own party in the House. The Senate passed the bill Tuesday, sending it to the House, but House Democrats are expected to use a procedure known as “blue slipping” to block the bill, according to House and Senate GOP aides.

The debacle could prove to be a major embarrassment for Senate Democrats, who sought Tuesday to make the relatively unknown bill a major political issue by sending out numerous news releases trumpeting its passage.

Section 107 of the bill includes a set of fees that are classified as revenue raisers, which are technically taxes under the Constitution. According to a House GOP leadership aide, that section has ruffled the feathers of Ways and Means Committee Democrats, who are expected to use the blue slip process to block completion of the bill.

“We understand there is a blue slip problem, and we expect the House to assert its rights under the Constitution to be the place where revenue bills begin,” the GOP aide said.

The blue slip could lead to one of two likely outcomes. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) could simply drop the issue and let the next session of Congress start from scratch, a strategy that would allow him time in the lame-duck session to tackle other last-minute priorities, such as the expiring 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, a long-term continuing resolution, an immigration bill and a repeal of the military’s ban on openly gay service members.

Or he could try to force the issue in the Senate after the House passes a new version of the bill. But in order to do that and still tackle the other issues, he would need a unanimous consent agreement to limit debate.

According to Senate GOP aides, a unanimous consent agreement is all but certain to be a nonstarter because the bill’s chief opponent, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), will not agree to such a deal.

Coburn “will object and demand changes as [he has] from the get-go,” a GOP aide familiar with the situation said.

This is not the first time that Reid has run afoul of the Constitution’s tax origination provisions. His efforts to pass a tourism promotion bill that was key to his re-election hopes was temporarily stymied earlier this year because the Senate passed a version with revenue raisers similar to those in the food safety bill.

Spokesmen for Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Ways and Means Democrats and Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), the food safety bill’s sponsor, did not immediately return requests for comment. Aides for Ways and Means Democrats also did not immediately return requests for comment.

ratcat  posted on  2010-12-01   0:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: ratcat, *Agriculture-Environment* (#15)

interesting. Great post.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-12-01   3:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: ratcat (#15)

A food safety bill that has burned up precious days of the Senate’s lame-duck session appears headed back to the chamber because Democrats violated a constitutional provision requiring that tax provisions originate in the House.

RotFL, best news I have heard all day. As usual, the dems ignore the constitution. This would also make a great court case if it is not kicked back to the House.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-01   5:32:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine (#9)

i eat and drink nothing but raw milk and cheese. i get these products from a farmer in Schulenburg. i wonder how long before they shut him down. unbelievable.

4um: House May Block Food Safety Bill Over Senate Error

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2010-12-01   12:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod (#0)

Watch the black market in produce blossom in America.

Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
If you believe in small government, then you shouldn't be in the White House.

PnbC  posted on  2010-12-01   12:59:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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