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Title: Arizona Govenor VS Phoenix Suns Owner
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Published: Dec 1, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-12-01 14:16:26 by James Deffenbach
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The owner of the Phoenix Suns basketball team, Robert Sarver, opposes AZ's new immigration laws. Arizona 's Governor, Jan Brewer, released the following statement in response to Sarver's criticism of the new law: "What if the owners of the Suns discovered that hordes of people were sneaking into games without paying? What if they had a good idea who the gate-crashers are, but the ushers and security personnel were not allowed to ask these folks to produce their ticket stubs, thus non-paying attendees couldn't be ejected. Furthermore, what if Suns' ownership was expected to provide those who sneaked in with complimentary eats and drink? And what if, on those days when a gate-crasher became ill or injured, the Suns had to provide free medical care and shelter?" - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer Try going to any other country without ID 
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#1. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
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not a very good analogy by Gov Brewer. The state of arizona charges prices to its citizens through sales taxes, payroll taxes and income taxes as well as other fees. The illegal immigrants always pay sales taxes as everyone does. in the large majority of cases they get regular paychecks which means they have payroll taxes and usually income taxes too withheld. The state knows that many employers do hire illegal immigrants illegally. and the state under Brewer's leadership chooses not to know who they are. It is easy to audit the employers' payrolls. South Carolina does it and successfully keeps illegal immigrants from working in their economy. Arizona chooses not to do it. Every day in Arizona employers hire illegal immigrants without any fear of Governor Brewer's state government. By making this analogy governor Brewer is dishonest. Those who choose not to see this dishonesty are accepting a delusion into their own minds. but here is the greatest dishonesty. Governor Brewer and her Arizona Republicans have in the last 2-3 years made it a big priority of theirs' to implement a guest worker program where the current illegal immigrants are to be turned into legal guest workers and for a new stream of guest workers to be always available in the future to all employers if they choose to hire from that pool. The Republicans met with the Mexican consulate to arrange it even. The Mexican consulate prepared a huge list of illegal immigrants from Mexico for this purpose so that employers in Arizona could hire them. This was printed right in our local paper.
Most people who get paid in cash (under the table) don't have payroll taxes/income taxes. And LOTS of the illegals are "doing jobs Americans won't do" (horse $#it!) that people pay cash for. Especially yard work and things like that.
some illegals do get paid in cash. They stand on street corners in Phoenix metro area, lots of them, all over town. and people hire them for cash. This practice was considered illegal for them to stand on street corners like that and ask for jobs just a few years ago by local cities. The law was changed to accommodate the mexicans. most get regular paychecks though. The unemployed mexicans stand on street corners and do cash jobs. There has never been a time when the mexicans were paid sub-standard wages or anything like that. They were ushered right into regular jobs at regular pay. and very few of them do the crop harvesting. and for every job that they do including the crop harvesting and the meat-butchering there are lots of Americans who do those jobs also and lots who want to do those jobs.
#4. To: Red Jones (#3)
It is hard for me to work up a lot of sympathy for folks who disregard the immigration laws. When I go to another country I have to produce some papers showing I have jumped through the hoops to be there. And the Mexican government is hypocritical with all that yammering about how bad Arizona is treating the illegal alien Mexicans when they have a stricter immigration policy than Arizona does (one of the strictest in the western hemisphere, or so I have heard).
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest"What if the owners of the Suns discovered that hordes of people were sneaking into games without paying? What if they had a good idea who the gate-crashers are, but the ushers and security personnel were not allowed to ask these folks to produce their ticket stubs, thus non-paying attendees couldn't be ejected. Furthermore, what if Suns' ownership was expected to provide those who sneaked in with complimentary eats and drink? And what if, on those days when a gate-crasher became ill or injured, the Suns had to provide free medical care and shelter?" - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer
#2. To: Red Jones (#1)
in the large majority of cases they get regular paychecks which means they have payroll taxes and usually income taxes too withheld.
#3. To: James Deffenbach (#2)
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