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Title: State Dept Warning Students Not to Read, Share WikiLeaks OR Citizens ---- Ignorance Is BLISS
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Published: Dec 4, 2010
Author: http://news.antiwar.com/2010/12/03/state
Post Date: 2010-12-04 09:24:09 by tom007
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State Dept Warning Students Not to Read, Share WikiLeaks Spokeswoman Says Commenting on WikiLeaks Not a Good Move for Any Citizen by Jason Ditz, December 03, 2010 Email This | Print This | Share This | Antiwar Forum Columbia University’s Office of Career Service is said to have passed around an email warning students that if they read WikiLeaks or make comments related to the releases it would render them ineligible for any government jobs in the future, based on a warning sent by a former student working at the State Department. State Department spokeswoman Nicole Thompson insisted the warning wasn’t an official Department directive but added that making public comments or posting links to WikiLeaks content wasn’t “a good move for any US citizen.” Efforts across the US government to restrict access to the documents are having limited success, although Sen. Joe Lieberman (I – CT) did succeed in getting the WikiLeaks website removed for a few hours following a threatening phone call to Amazon.com. Beyond the State Department, the US military is also said to be trying to curb access to the content among active duty personnel, with attempts to visit any media website from the military’s open network resulting in a warning message not to read anything related to the WikiLeaks release. The Social Security Administration has also sent an alert to all its employees warning them that reading anything related to the WikiLeaks release could subject them to “federal criminal statutes for unlawful access to or transmission of classified information.” Even the Library of Congress is getting into the game, with attempts to visit the website at the Library resulting in a warning that the site is “malicious content” and has been blocked.
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#1. To: tom007 (#0)
I have no recollection of anything similar to this occurring during my lifetime until recently.
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Revere God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man".
It has always been thus, with very few exceptions. It is near automatic, people at or near the top in any and ALL organizations will go with their own "kind" if it is at all possible. When something is COMING UP FROM THE MASSES it is suspect, frowned upon and if possible contained.
I may have been misled or my history books tweaked but I have never been told what not to read.
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Revere God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man".
Sins of omissions are equal to sins of commission. As we spiral lower, we will be happy to comply with what we are told to read. Inch by inch, step by step, control, control, the STATE is our only family.
You are right. We are being led down a national socialist path where the sword of the state becomes identified with the welfare of the people. Agents of the state present propositions like this that are unthinkable to real Americans. If we accept what this State Department shill suggests we are on a short road to being "good Germans." This path leads to enforced conformity of thought and opinion. I don't have to remind you how this story ends.
We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
A tragic rerun of life.
I recall talking to some guys in the militia back in 1996 or so about the elections and politicians and what a lot of horseshit they leave in the streets of America every election cycle, only to continue their agenda of globalization. Lots of people had ideas about how things could be changed through "the system" ... I told them then, and I'll say it again, if elections are ever to be any help to the restoration of decency in this country, it's because they force these frauds out into the open in order to campaign and attend townhall meetings. The townhall meetings will be places for target practice, turned blood red, and politicians known to have voted in favor of measures contrary to America's (Constitution) won't have a chance to do it twice. That is the only thing that will change the attitude of the murderers in D.C. politics.
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Revere God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man".
I'm pretty certain I'll have a shortened life span ... I loathe the State and love my family.
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Revere God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man".
Its the new transparency in government policy.
Recall our "revolution discussion" of a few nites ago???? The dearth of participants.
that would be justice!
People living in an area where the public officials are loyal to the Constitution are left shooting at cans !
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Revere God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man".
I think that this will make people angry, but not me. I think that this is hilarious! They are scared to death of one man (plus his crew) and one website! I love what wikileaks is doing, I support them 100%, and Nicky at the state dept can suck my balls. .
#2. To: noone222 (#1)
I have no recollection of anything similar to this occurring during my lifetime until recently.
#3. To: Cynicom (#2)
It has always been thus, with very few exceptions.
#4. To: noone222 (#3)
I may have been misled or my history books tweaked but I have never been told what not to read.
#5. To: noone222 (#3)
I may have been misled or my history books tweaked but I have never been told what not to read.
#6. To: randge (#5)
I don't have to remind you how this story ends.
#7. To: randge (#5)
(Edited)
If we accept what this State Department shill suggests we are on a short road to being "good Germans." This path leads to enforced conformity of thought and opinion.
#8. To: Cynicom (#4)
Inch by inch, step by step, control, control, the STATE is our only family.
#9. To: noone222 (#3)
I may have been misled or my history books tweaked but I have never been told what not to read.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#10. To: noone222 (#8)
I loathe the State and love my family.
#11. To: noone222 (#7)
Lots of people had ideas about how things could be changed through "the system" ... I told them then, and I'll say it again, if elections are ever to be any help to the restoration of decency in this country, it's because they force these frauds out into the open in order to campaign and attend townhall meetings. The townhall meetings will be places for target practice, turned blood red, and politicians known to have voted in favor of measures contrary to America's (Constitution) won't have a chance to do it twice.
#12. To: christine (#11)
that would be justice!
#13. To: tom007, all (#0)
(Edited)
State Department spokeswoman Nicole Thompson insisted the warning wasn’t an official Department directive but added that making public comments or posting links to WikiLeaks content wasn’t “a good move for any US citizen.”
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#14. To: PSUSA (#13)
Notice how Ms. Thompson has subtly undermined the concept of the first amendment; the power of the state is watching you.
State Department spokeswoman Nicole Thompson insisted the warning wasn’t an official Department directive but added that making public comments or posting links to WikiLeaks content wasn’t “a good move for any US citizen.”
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
#15. To: buckeroo (#14)
I noticed. I just don't give a damn. And when other interested parties are told this, I bet they don't give a damn either. In fact, it might have the opposite effect and bring in more interest in wikileaks. When the entire .gov is against you, you just can't buy that kind of publicity. .
Notice how Ms. Thompson has subtly undermined the concept of the first amendment; the power of the state is watching you.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#16. To: PSUSA (#15)
I don't think the US government directly operates in a way that is against; now, that is not to say the government doesn't but I want to point out that most of the cables that are on the Wikileaks.ch server are benign, in of themselves. To me, what is extraordinary are the lengths the US government goes to preventing the data, i.e it is largely classified. But more than even that point, I think the US government has over-reached it's inherent power of meddling in every sovereign nation's affairs when it should be directly looking out for the American People. As you know, most of the wikileaks cables are about international affairs. Hey! What happened to domestic affairs? Where are the tax cuts to stimulate the economy? Where is the "jobs creation" bill? And so forth? Now, wikileaks may not have access to that data but the scope of wikileaks data reveals a decided absence about America's domestic issues which re-enforces the perspective of "America's position of world cop." There is an apparent disconnect about America's governance with its own people. And that is why you see the political pendulum swing more wildly each and every election.
In fact, it might have the opposite effect and bring in more interest in wikileaks. When the entire .gov is against you, you just can't buy that kind of publicity.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
#17. To: buckeroo (#16)
They can only leak what governmental workers give them.
Hey! What happened to domestic affairs? Where are the tax cuts to stimulate the economy? Where is the "jobs creation" bill? And so forth?
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#18. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#17)
Fully understood still American domestic policy is hemorrhaging and these wikileaks documents underscore the abusive and expensive meddling of US international considerations forcing other nations policies as a function of US interests. You almost wonder what these politicians and bureaucrats are saying behind our own backs, 'eh? Something to the tune of the infamous Marie Antoinette cliche: Let them eat cake!
They can only leak what governmental workers give them.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
#19. To: tom007, all (#0)
I find that statement offensive in the extreme. Any REAL American should find it so as well. It is not now, nor has it ever been, in the Constitutional purview of any agent of the Federal Government to suggest or even hint that reading something disapproved of by Der State could or legitimately should be of concern for any citizen. To even make a suggestion such as this is obscene filth of the rankest kind. I find it more offensive than the lowest basest pornography. Ms. Thompson has just made it a duty of any American to seek out and read what is in the Weakeyleaks material. And of course that may be the real intent of the comment since Weakeyleaks IS a Propaganda PsyOp. However, that this little twit felt it even proper to offer such is an offense which should result in her immediate dismissal and that of any officer in a position of trust who authorized that statement.
State Department spokeswoman Nicole Thompson insisted the warning wasn’t an official Department directive but added that making public comments or posting links to WikiLeaks content wasn’t “a good move for any US citizen.”
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#20. To: Original_Intent (#19)
We need a Joseph Warren and a Paul Revere.
I find that statement offensive in the extreme.
#21. To: Cynicom (#20)
We need something. We are approaching the edge of a precipice and to fall off it is to plunge into a darkness such as we have never known.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#22. To: Original_Intent (#21)
You are quite the optimist today. To me, America has already been driven over the precipice and is plunging into infinite, eternal darkness.
We are approaching the edge of a precipice and to fall off it is to plunge into a darkness such as we have never known.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
#23. To: buckeroo (#18)
They give no more thought to us than they do cockroaches. They use out own money to hire flunkies to keep us contained.
Fully understood still American domestic policy is hemorrhaging and these wikileaks documents underscore the abusive and expensive meddling of US international considerations forcing other nations policies as a function of US interests. You almost wonder what these politicians and bureaucrats are saying behind our own backs, 'eh? Something to the tune of the infamous Marie Antoinette cliche: Let them eat cake!
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#24. To: buckeroo (#22)
No we are, at this point, in a twilight, and we still have a choice, but the options are becoming more limited and more circumscribed. The Banksters and Psychiatrists running the real show behind the scenes are trying to head off the building explosion. People are waking up, and the TSA scanners, which I do not think they expected, precipitated a bigger wake up event. No, we have not edged out of the darkness yet, but we do still stand a chance. “Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense” ~ Winston Churchill
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#25. To: Original_Intent (#21)
OI...Add this word to your repertoire/vocabulary. ...byss...
We need something. We are approaching the edge of a precipice and to fall off it is to plunge into a darkness such as we have never known.
#26. To: buckeroo (#16)
True. At least on the surface. But my understanding of intelligence value is NOT "We are going to invade Canada at 12 noon GMT on xmas day 2010 with pre-invasion airstrikes targeting ...". It is more like putting a jigsaw puzzle together. The "interesting" pieces are buried, and they get the publicity, but all pieces are useful in the destruction of this empire. "As you know, most of the wikileaks cables are about international affairs. Hey! What happened to domestic affairs?" We have Glen Beck taking care of that. /s .
I want to point out that most of the cables that are on the Wikileaks.ch server are benign, in of themselves.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#27. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#23)
Isn't anyone aware of the forever playing and skipped record of and about politicians flashing bright smiles prior to the various and respective elections and then you rarely hear from them again .... they are essentially sucked into the same black_hole their predecessor was and as a result there can not be change in America. I want to point out, that the idea of "change" is a political euphemism to me. The only "change" that happens in America is we are increasingly losing our individual rights, liberties and freedoms besides our own dignity. And as a result, when a new election approaches, I cringe knowing that we are in additional peril than we already know.
They give no more thought to us than they do cockroaches. They use out[sic] own money to hire flunkies to keep us contained.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
#28. To: Original_Intent (#24)
Can you document your perspective? I don't see much other than a wild rumbling here or there, as though dreams are occurring.
People are waking up ...
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
#29. To: buckeroo (#27)
No, you see all we have to do is vote Democrat and/or Republican (depending on which partisan buttlicker you speak with) and things will get better.
I want to point out, that the idea of "change" is a political euphemism to me. The only "change" that happens in America is we are increasingly losing our individual rights, liberties and freedoms besides our own dignity. And as a result, when a new election approaches, I cringe knowing that we are in additional peril than we already know.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#30. To: PSUSA (#26)
Oh man .... are we forever fucked.
We have Glen Beck taking care of that.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
#31. To: buckeroo (#28)
I don't see it either. If you go to the comments section of many of the MSM stories posted on this forum, the majority are pro-government, whether it be TSA's "Gonadgate," the Patriot Act, The War of Terror...you name it and the majority are on the side that give the government more power
Can you document your perspective? I don't see much other than a wild rumbling here or there, as though dreams are occurring.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#32. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#31) (Edited)
Obviously, you are well read. If significant changes were to be in manifest form to permit a glimmer of "hope" we would already see government agencies stripped naked and out of power as a result of each and every one of taking responsibility for ourselves and those immediately around ourselves. But we don't see Americans rising up with anything to say. We are herded by government into the mental frame that "government is here to help" ..... which is so far from the truth that the demigods that you point out are the reasons why America is all-fucked-upped and can't be corrected anytime in our lifetimes.
If you go to the comments section of many of the MSM stories posted on this forum, the majority are pro-government, whether it be TSA's "Gonadgate," the Patriot Act, The War of Terror...you name it and the majority are on the side that give the government more power.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
#33. To: buckeroo (#28)
Can you document your perspective? I don't see much other than a wild rumbling here or there, as though dreams are occurring. My analysis is qualitative rather than quantitative. However, that the PTB find it necessary to stage a very large scale PsyOp/Propaganda campaign such as WeakeyLeaks is itself a giveaway that the old propaganda is losing its effect. People are beginning to ask questions and entertain ideas that a couple of years ago would have gotten you banned from most forums or at the very least attacked by a pack of howling shills. The 800 pound gorilla is still the one they are most desperate to divert from: 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB. That they find it necessary to have their operator Assange reiterate his true faith in the 911 LIES shows that they are even willing to risk exposure of this Disinformation campaign to keep that LIE in place i.e., that it was "19ArabsWhoHateUsCuzWe'reFree" 4 of which were alive and not even in the U.S. on the day of the attack and the remainder of which drank like fish, ate pork, consorted with whores, and hung out in strip clubs, but nevertheless we are supposed to accept that they were fanatical muslims shouting "Allahu Akbar" as they ran the jets they did not know how to fly into buildings after leisurely flying around in the most controlled and monitored airspace on the planet, after commandeering them with boxcutters and Pepper Spray, while not even one out of FOUR planes sent an alert from the cockpit - which takes about 2-3 seconds. It is of course a preposterous story which has been shot so full of holes as to make a Swiss Cheese look like a block of steel.
People are waking up ...
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#34. To: Original_Intent (#33)
I am convinced that the only reason you have suspicions about Julian Assange is because of his repeated scorn over your 9/11 conspiracy. Oh well.....
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
#35. To: buckeroo (#34) (Edited)
You are quite welcome to believe in anything you want - including the fuzz in your belly button. My arguments, as anyone reading them can see, are not solely predicated upon 911, although that is an important giveaway that Assange is running a disinformation operation. You are simply engaging in a variation of Argumentum Ad Hominem by posing a Strawman Argument in order to divert. I'm not biting, and I hope intelligent readers won't bite.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#36. To: buckeroo, original_intent (#34)
if assange defends the official 9/11 fable he is not a real whistleblower. Anyone who would fall for such a ludicrous bullshit story is either a moron, shill, or irrepressible statist who probably drank flouride & went to government school.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#37. To: Artisan (#36)
But Assange isn't a whistle-blower. He is a reporter; he leaves that sort of stuff to each individual willing to share substantiated facts and not gossip.
if assange defends the official 9/11 fable he is not a real whistleblower.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
#38. To: Original_Intent (#19)
I find that statement offensive in the extreme. Any REAL American should find it so as well. It It is nothing less than a threat from the state. Nicole should be fired, along with her supervisors - all the way up to Hillary.
posting links to WikiLeaks content wasn’t “a good move for any US citizen.”
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
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#40. To: tom007 (#38)
Nicole should be fired, along with her supervisors - all the way up to Hillary.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
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