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Title: Obama, GOP reach deal to extend tax cuts
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101207/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tax_cuts
Published: Dec 6, 2010
Author: JIM KUHNHENN and DAVID ESPO
Post Date: 2010-12-06 20:30:13 by Flintlock
Keywords: None
Views: 338
Comments: 27

WASHINGTON – Brushing past Democratic opposition, President Barack Obama announced agreement with Republicans Monday night on a plan to extend expiring income tax cuts for all Americans, renew jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed and grant a one-year reduction in Social Security taxes.

The emerging agreement also includes tax breaks for businesses that the president said would contribute to the economy's recovery from the worst recession in eight decades.

Obama's announcement marked a dramatic reversal of his long-held insistence, originally laid out in his 2008 campaign, that tax cuts should only be extended at incomes up to $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples. He explained his about-face by saying that he still opposed the move and noted the agreement called for a temporary, two-year extension of cuts at all income levels, not the permanent renewal that Republicans have long sought.


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One small victory...savor it

Thank You Republicans, thank you!

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#3. To: Flintlock (#0)

This is just further evidence that Democrats and Republicans are exactly the same - other than the public images they nurture.

For rich people there is a special low tax rate of 15.0% on all investment income. That applies to all investments including investments in china, thailand, vietnam, etc. Nobody invests in America because the US dollar is over-valued, it is not economical to produce here as long as we're in that condition. So in effect with this special low 15% tax rate the American taxpayers subsidize investments in foreign countries - which is where the action is for investors. Not only that, a lot of the companies on wall street make most of their money in foreign countries. Invest in America and in reality you're investing in foreigners' jobs, not ours'. No matter, investment income is special and taxed at a very low rate.

Meanwhile the poorest people in America work for paychecks or else don't work at all. And these people are taxed on all income with no refunds at 15.8% of their income. The taxes on the richest are lower as a percentage of their income than the taxes on the poorest.

President Obama is so pitiful that he could not come before the American population and speak these things and the obvious outrage that it deserves. In fact, the entire mass media hides from the Americans the simple truths that the taxes on the rich are lower than the taxes on the poor.

Republicans, Democrats, mass media, all in it together as a team. And American taxpayers expected to pay the extra $200 billion or so per year that this ridiculous low 15% tax on rich people's incomes is just normal. Our leaders are systematically opposed to our interests.

Some clowns will say that the 2003 tax cuts caused jobs to be created. These people are idiots. They only cause impossible debts. No surprise. Impossible debts mean borrowing from the federal reserve which means profits by the federal reserve.

The Republicans and Democrats are both against us and on the same team. Everyone who supports them is also in turn anti-american.

There are some who believe that the tax cuts will somehow save mankind. These people are practicing idolatry. They have raised up an idea and decided to worship it out of their own personal foolishness. For government to surrender over $200 billion every year to rich people at a time when 45% of all government spending is financed by new debt is a fundamentally stupid thing to do.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-12-06   20:59:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Red Jones (#3)

For government to surrender over $200 billion every year to rich people at a time when 45% of all government spending is financed by new debt is a fundamentally stupid thing to do.

Most of the $200-billion the rich save in taxes will go into shares of companies which explore for minerals, research and develop innovative products like electric cars, batteries to power them and many other ventures, all of which, hold the prospect of wealth creation and provide pay for "middle class" jobs, not only for those directly involved but for equipment manufacturers and other suppliers. $200-billion going to the government in taxes just feeds a mostly useless bureaucracy, currently well illustrated by the antics of the 150-thousand member TSA, all of whom produce no wealth at all, just stymie others from doing so.

To avoid debt by ever-increasing government spending requires a substantial reduction of bureaucracies, particularly those that duplicate services of other levels of government, and privatization like turning over tax collection to the banks.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2010-12-06   22:14:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tatarewicz (#7)

provide pay for "middle class" jobs, not only for those directly involved but for equipment manufacturers and other suppliers.

requires a substantial reduction of bureaucracies

turning over tax collection to the banks

Yes, the middle class jobs in INDIA and in CHINA and in MEXICO. Equipment manufacturers in the USA.....lol.

Yes, but this will put another 20% of the currently employed into the unemployment lines.

WTF? You want Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan in charge of tax collection? As if they don't already OWN enough of this nation and haven't already screwed it up royally......you now want them in the tax collection business. Yikes!!

abraxas  posted on  2010-12-06   23:56:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#15. To: abraxas (#13)

GS is FDIC insured so I don't see what there's to worry about. The bank would just send the appropriate amount of money to the governments; you probably would not even have to file a return if you supplied the bank with deductions information.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2010-12-07 00:36:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: abraxas (#13)

(Reducing government bureaucracies) will put another 20% of the currently employed into the unemployment lines.

Not if they're redeployed building high-speed rail lines and trains, desalination plants to re-water the southwest, weather modification experiments, pipelining water from Canada to Arizona. rebuilding roadway infrastructure, all wealth-based assets, instead of just consuming wealth and inhibiting its production.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2010-12-07 06:58:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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