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Title: Live with the WikiLeakable world or shut down the net. It's your choice
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Published: Dec 7, 2010
Author: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/
Post Date: 2010-12-07 20:48:17 by tom007
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Live with the WikiLeakable world or shut down the net. It's your choice

Western political elites obfuscate, lie and bluster – and when the veil of secrecy is lifted, they try to kill the messenger

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

Western political elites obfuscate, lie and bluster

WikiLeaks is how western politicians mean to shut down the 'Net.

Brian D  posted on  2010-12-07   20:57:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian D (#1)

I am not totally buying into that thesis. It may well be that the cables were "salted" with a proponderance of notes detrimental to Iran, but it seems clear to me that the US poobahs are genuinely upset by the exposure.

That Interpol has put Assange on their Most Wanted List nearly proves this - for having sex without a condom, against the law in Sweden. Who would have thought.

And note that to date only several hundred cables have been released, apparently after being vetted by several large US news agencies, out of the 250000 they claim to have.

So till further notice, I am rooting for Assange.

tom007  posted on  2010-12-07   21:09:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tom007, Brian D (#2)

I am not totally buying into that thesis.

Calling it a thesis is being highly charitable. Telecom companies have spent hundreds of billion of dollar building the Internet infrastructure. E-commerce accounted for 3.704 trillion dollars in sales in 2008. That doesn't even take into consideration the tens of millions of people who habitually use the internet for socialization.

The idea that businesses and individuals are going to allow the government to "shut down the internet" is laughable.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-12-08   20:11:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#8)

Calling it a thesis is being highly charitable. Telecom companies have spent hundreds of billion of dollar building the Internet infrastructure. E-commerce accounted for 3.704 trillion dollars in sales in 2008. That doesn't even take into consideration the tens of millions of people who habitually use the internet for socialization.

The idea that businesses and individuals are going to allow the government to "shut down the internet" is laughable.

Good points.

Tho the US seems to be following China on its view of the masses using the I to communicate.

tom007  posted on  2010-12-08   20:18:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#11. To: tom007 (#10)

Tho the US seems to be following China on its view of the masses using the I to communicate.

Well now regulating the internet in order to choke off political dissent is a completely different thing than "shutting down the net."

I can see them trying it, but I do not think they will be successful unless they "nickel and dime" us to death like they have the WOD and the 4th amendment. The proverbial frog in the pot of water, if you will. I can see that working.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-12-08 20:27:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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