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Title: Live with the WikiLeakable world or shut down the net. It's your choice
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Published: Dec 7, 2010
Author: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/
Post Date: 2010-12-07 20:48:17 by tom007
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Live with the WikiLeakable world or shut down the net. It's your choice Western political elites obfuscate, lie and bluster – and when the veil of secrecy is lifted, they try to kill the messenger
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#1. To: tom007 (#0)
WikiLeaks is how western politicians mean to shut down the 'Net.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
I am not totally buying into that thesis. It may well be that the cables were "salted" with a proponderance of notes detrimental to Iran, but it seems clear to me that the US poobahs are genuinely upset by the exposure. That Interpol has put Assange on their Most Wanted List nearly proves this - for having sex without a condom, against the law in Sweden. Who would have thought. And note that to date only several hundred cables have been released, apparently after being vetted by several large US news agencies, out of the 250000 they claim to have. So till further notice, I am rooting for Assange.
The ones that are talked about are upset of course, but overall it was CIA policy to let the leaks on that site or it would have never happened. US intelligence is still the best in the world despite what they said on 9/11 and about Iraq's WMD.
God is always good!
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡ "The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson
You have been paying attention.
Ludicrous with a capital L.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
Let me reassess my position on your say-so.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
Calling it a thesis is being highly charitable. Telecom companies have spent hundreds of billion of dollar building the Internet infrastructure. E-commerce accounted for 3.704 trillion dollars in sales in 2008. That doesn't even take into consideration the tens of millions of people who habitually use the internet for socialization. The idea that businesses and individuals are going to allow the government to "shut down the internet" is laughable.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
The fool hath said in his heart, they are going to shut down the internet.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
The idea that businesses and individuals are going to allow the government to "shut down the internet" is laughable. Good points. Tho the US seems to be following China on its view of the masses using the I to communicate.
Well now regulating the internet in order to choke off political dissent is a completely different thing than "shutting down the net." I can see them trying it, but I do not think they will be successful unless they "nickel and dime" us to death like they have the WOD and the 4th amendment. The proverbial frog in the pot of water, if you will. I can see that working.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
Need to call your friends to help argue your point because you don't have any counter to my proposal? No? Didn't think so, 'bot.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
Everyone remember the little blurb about our military creating a Cyber Warfare division? It's on here. Look for the link. Anything to justify a budget. This whole thing began as an op from the beginning and Bradley Manning was at the center of it. Notice how much he and Lyndie England look alike? I am telling everyone, this has been an op from the start, and anyone who believes different is an idiot. The tell for me was no mentions of Israel. The other tells were nothing concerning troop movements, and or any ops we're conducting in other regions of the world. There's a lot of high school rate disciplinary reports on diplomats and a lot of dirt on Hillary that should have caused her to resign. It's all part and parcel with the lie that THIS administration needs tighter controls on what gets said on the internet, and how they desperately need power to control the thoughts and words of journalists, and at home bloggers who see through the tapestry of lies coming from The Anti-Christ and his cohorts. We ARE INDEED talking about The Anti-Christ. Either that or the first false prophet. Either way, the evil that is rearing its ugly head will make what is going on right now seem like an episode of Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
I gave 3.704 trillion points to counter your stupidity 'tard.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
Something I said ratted your cage enough to write your little friend and several other empty posts. I'm just wondering why you can't come up with anything more substantial that stupid attacks that do not address your argument. I have to assume you don't have one and are a fool who believes everything he sees on the TV. Goodbye, fool.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
I have to assume you don't have one and are a fool who believes everything he sees on the TV. Goodbye, fool. LOL! Run away pussy. Run real fast. Don't bother to address the FACTS I presented. Just run away. While you're running, send that wife of yours over here. She needs a real man to take care of her needs. Something you obviously aren't.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
Your response is stupid.
Then Brian D. should relate well to it.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
I've seen you mention that before. What is the significance of them looking alike?
They're the same person in a way. The adrogenous features that could go either way. I'm of the mind that these are pre-selected fall guys that they use that have that look of idiot / inbred moron so as to convince the people that we're looking at retards who got caught. I wouldn't believe my government if they told me the sun came up in the east.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
Western political elites obfuscate, lie and bluster
#2. To: Brian D (#1)
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 
#3. To: tom007 (#2)
(Edited)
but it seems clear to me that the US poobahs are genuinely upset by the exposure.
#4. To: tom007 (#0)
#5. To: ghostdogtxn (#4)
nd I suspect the choice has already been made for us.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#6. To: Brian D (#1)
WikiLeaks is how western politicians mean to shut down the 'Net.
#7. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#6)
#8. To: tom007, Brian D (#2)
I am not totally buying into that thesis.
#9. To: Brian D (#7)
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
#10. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#8)
Calling it a thesis is being highly charitable. Telecom companies have spent hundreds of billion of dollar building the Internet infrastructure. E-commerce accounted for 3.704 trillion dollars in sales in 2008. That doesn't even take into consideration the tens of millions of people who habitually use the internet for socialization.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#11. To: tom007 (#10)
Tho the US seems to be following China on its view of the masses using the I to communicate.
#12. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#9)
#13. To: tom007 (#0)
#14. To: Brian D (#12)
(Edited)
Need to call your friends to help argue your point because you don't have any counter to my proposal? No? Didn't think so, 'bot.
#15. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#14)
#16. To: Brian D (#15)
(Edited)
Something I said ratted your cage enough to write your little friend and several other empty posts. I'm just wondering why you can't come up with anything more substantial that stupid attacks that do not address your argument.
#17. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#16)
LOL! Run away pussy. Run real fast. Don't bother to address the FACTS I presented. Just run away. While you're running, send that wife of yours over here. She needs a real man to take care of her needs. Something you obviously aren't.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#18. To: tom007 (#17)
Your response is stupid.
#19. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#13)
Notice how much [Bradley Manning] and Lyndie England look alike?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#20. To: Esso (#19)
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