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Title: It's Official: Ron Paul Is Head Of Monetary Policy Subcommittee
Source: zerohedge
URL Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/it ... d-monetary-policy-subcommittee
Published: Dec 9, 2010
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2010-12-09 08:02:21 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: None
Views: 1169
Comments: 120

Despite rumors that various splinter forces within the Republican party are attempting to block Ron Paul's fateful chairmanship of the Monetary Policy Subcommittee, we now have confirmation that the only sane politician left will now be Ben Bernanke's direct nemesis during any and all future Congressional spectacles starring the printing unchallenged one. And with US debt creeping ever closer to the debt ceiling, coupled with the dollar for dollar monetization of the US deficit, such spectacles will soon be plenty.

Fast forward to 3:30 in the clip for the announcement.

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#1. To: All (#0)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-12-09   8:05:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   8:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Eric Stratton (#2)

I don't think he is a fraud. If anything, his life is in danger.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-12-09   8:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#3)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   8:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Eric Stratton (#2)

Well, we'll see where/if the rubber meets the road on Ron Paul. I know that some think he's a fraud

Actions speak louder than words, accomplishment much more, and so far he has demonstrated only words.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   8:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

.. so far he has demonstrated only words.

=======================================

Ron Paul has waited over 20 years to be the Chairman of this committee.

Now he has teeth.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-12-09   9:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Ron Paul Is Head Of Monetary Policy Subcommittee

This is great news and a prime example of why it's GOOD that Ron Paul is working within the Republican Party. Let the shills and losers whine all they want, nobody is listening to them, nobody.

Go get'em Ron Paul, go get'em!

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-12-09   9:04:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#6)

Now he has teeth.

False teeth that he will not be allowed to use by the other members.

A no confidence vote here, based on past performance.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   9:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, 4 (#1)

This is good news. Bernanke might just as well pitch a tent in front of Paul's subcommittee's office, and save travel time. In addition to this news, Jim DeMint is refusing to back the Obama/Pubbie tax compromise, as is Bachmann in the House. It might not pass, thanks to the concessions that are built in to it. Let the lines be drawn, and the fight begin.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-09   9:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

Let the lines be drawn, and the fight begin.

Paul??? Ha.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   9:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#10)

He talks Cyni, he also knows what he is talking about. Ben isn't enjoying his bagel this morning.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-09   9:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#5)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   9:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

Bernanke might just as well pitch a tent in front of Paul's subcommittee's office, and save travel time.

We should mail Helicopter Ben a can of Spam to make his camp outs more comfortable

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-12-09   9:43:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#11) (Edited)

" On May 23, 1933, Congressman, Louis T. McFadden, brought formal charges against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank system, The Comptroller of the Currency and the Secretary of United States Treasury for numerous criminal acts, including but not limited to, CONSPIRACY, FRAUD, UNLAWFUL CONVERSION, AND TREASON.

The petition for Articles of Impeachment was thereafter referred to the Judiciary Committee and has...... YET TO BE ACTED ON......

McFadden was then assassinated as the new President, Roosevelt, was the nephew of one of the founding board of directors of the Federal Reserve.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   9:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Eric Stratton (#12)

i.e., don't blame Ron Paul for this.

I dont bet on horses that never left the gate.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   9:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#15)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   10:00:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom, 4 (#14)

Lets see, Barney Frank, or Ron Paul as Chair of the Monetary Commission? It's a close call, but let me think this one over :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-09   10:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eric Stratton (#16)

It's tough to leave the gate when on the other side there's all kinds of crap barring the exit way, eh.

Eric...

NO EXCUSE will relieve Paul of the burden of having let millions of Americans down.

HE PLACED HIMSELF THERE, no one begged or forced him. He had the only true message of truth but he was NOT then nor NOW the man to lead the revolution.

False hope wears nice, but it leaves you empty always.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   10:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom, All (#18)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   10:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#17)

Lets see, Barney Frank, or Ron Paul as Chair of the Monetary Commission?

McFadden was my hero, Paul is a nice guy, Bonney Fwank is a queer. hehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   10:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Eric Stratton, Jethro Tull (#19)

Alright Cyni, what would you propose that he had done?

Same as I have always said, broadcast his message, stay OUT OF THE WAY, find a horse that could carry his message in a fair race.

He announced his message, took millions and then took a hike, AT WHICH TIME IT WAS THEN TOO LATE FOR ANYONE ELSE TO TAKE UP OUR CAUSE.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   10:10:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#21)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   10:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: All (#21)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   10:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#21)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   10:22:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Eric Stratton (#22)

What do you mean he took a hike?

You do recall the Trotski memo????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   10:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Cynicom, All (#25)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   10:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#25)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   10:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Eric Stratton (#26)

Just read it, and yes, I'd heard of it, simply not by that name.

Well, if you read it, did you comprehend and digest what he wrote?

A few million Americans, myself included, understood only too well, but it was too late to find another horse.

Granted, a few Paul supporters were unable to grasp the message.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   10:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#25)

You do recall the Trotski memo????

"If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked." — Ron Paul

I see nothing wrong with throwing the slogans of communists, whom I consider an unqualified enemy, back into their teeth. I think it was a most fitting challenge.

This was Paul's way of reminding the Internationale, in all their many guises, that we have their number and that we will not rest.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-12-09   10:38:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: randge (#29)

I see nothing wrong with throwing the slogans of communists, whom I consider an unqualified enemy, back into their teeth. I think it was a most fitting challenge.

Without looking, I think somewhere in there, Paul declares his lifetime fealty to the republican party until he dies.

I do not buy into the idea there are TWO parties.

Later he ran for a seat in congress as a republican, no opposition, and won handily just as he did a few weeks ago.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   10:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#30)

And now he's the chairman of the Monetary Policy Subcommittee.

I think that beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-12-09   10:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: randge (#31) (Edited)

I think that beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

randge...

Certainly does...

Reality of past history does not support optimism.

McFadden had a much stronger position back in the 1930s, than Paul will have. He was strong enough to bring charges before Congress, charges which still stand, and have been ignored for nearly eighty years by Congress.

Congress could act upon those charges any time they desire, but it seems the will is not there, perhaps influenced by the fact that McFadden was assassinated shortly thereafter.

Paul has to do nothing, just get Congress to move on the original charges.

"The petition for Articles of Impeachment was thereafter referred to the Judiciary Committee and has...... YET TO BE ACTED ON......"

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   10:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#28)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#30)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Eric Stratton (#33) (Edited)

Yes, I comprehended it.

Eric...

I would disagree.

Dont feel bad, neither did a lot of other 4um members.

I felt I was swindled out of a bit of money, too late to find another horse, so I didnt vote.

Of course I understand people that DO support the corrupt two party system, even after a candidate spells it out in plain English, "I am a pub til I die".

When he declared his undying love for the republican party, my cynicical self said, he is part and parcel of the system.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   11:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: randge (#31)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#5)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-12-09   11:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Eric Stratton (#36)

People expect far too much out of a single person or even a small group in a political environment that won't let so few succeed.

People do not bet on nor support a horse that finishes no race.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   11:24:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Cynicom (#32)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: ghostdogtxn (#37)

Oh Please. You think there would even be a Tea Party movement if there was no Ron Paul?

Are you still nauseated from betting on a losing horse???

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   11:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Eric Stratton, randge (#39)

If you ask me, that post by you nullifies your prior position simply by virtue of the fact that Paul, particularly at his age, clearly saw that he could do more good by being patient and then hoping, with good hope apparently, for a position such as this.

Eric...randge...

In politics, that is called back filling. hehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   11:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Eric Stratton (#12)

Ross Perot even tried and flopped all but miserably.

========================================

Ross Perot did NOT flop. He got calls in the night, several mentioned his immediate family.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-12-09   11:29:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Cynicom (#40)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-12-09   11:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Cynicom, All (#35)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:34:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: ghostdogtxn (#37)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Eric Stratton (#36)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-12-09   11:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Cynicom (#38)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:36:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Cynicom (#40)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Cynicom, All (#40)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:39:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: ghostdogtxn, All (#43)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:41:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: ghostdogtxn (#46) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Eric Stratton (#48)

To which "horse" would you have attached your message to?

Already answered that.

I didnt vote. I spent all my loot on Paul, too late to find another horse.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   11:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Cynicom (#52)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-12-09   11:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Cynicom (#52)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: ghostdogtxn, All (#53)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   11:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Eric Stratton, ghostdogtxn, randge, Jethro tull (#51)

Boy, do I ever scent an underground Ron Paul cell here on 4um??????????????

Good heavens.

Paulites may need to do a tenner in the gulag re indoctrination center. hehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   12:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Cynicom (#56)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-12-09   12:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Eric Stratton (#54)

Read back, somewhere i said I did not vote.

Anyone that voted is part of the system.

Anyone that is a Paulite is naive at the least, gullible at the extreme.

You know the term, that dog wont hunt???? In this case, this horse wont run. hehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   12:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: ghostdogtxn (#57)

I've never been underground about my support for Ron Paul, and I know darn well it may be the kind of thing to wind me up in a re-education center.

Ha...

Paul is part of the corrupt system, takes his check every month from this despised government. And Texans voted for him?????? Egads....

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   12:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Cynicom, 4 (#58)

Anyone that voted is part of the system.

As are those who don't. Try not participating next April 15th. As I've said ad nauseum, foreign policy comes to us via the State Department and Tel Aviv, while domestic policy differs between *some* members of the Rs and Ds.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-09   12:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Eric Stratton, ghostdogtxn, randge, Jethro Tull (#0)

Ron Paul Is Head Of Monetary Policy Subcommittee

You guys better watch out or I'm gonna tell christine you have formed a secret cell for Ron Paul!

Phant2000  posted on  2010-12-09   13:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Cynicom (#56)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   14:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Cynicom, All (#58)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   14:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Phant2000 (#61)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   14:13:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Phant2000 (#61)

You guys better watch out or I'm gonna tell christine you have formed a secret cell for Ron Paul!

My sentiments exactly.

We have a Ron Paul subversive support cell here on 4um.

Next we will have an Obama cheering section.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   14:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Cynicom (#65)

Next we will have an Obama cheering section.

You can head that up, you're a natural

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-12-09   14:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

I agree. Let the fight begin!!!!!!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2010-12-09   16:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: ghostdogtxn (#46)

I'd volunteer for that job if I didn't have a wife and kids to leave behind.

I've got no wife or kids. I'll volunteer. (If you can provide transpotation.)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2010-12-09   16:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Flintlock (#66)

You can head that up, you're a natural

If you live in the 'hood you could aready be one of them?????? Checking my list, twice?????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   16:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#3)

I don't think he is a fraud. If anything, his life is in danger.

My thoughts too. They always cut down a formidable foe. JFK springs to mind..

Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-12-09   17:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Eric Stratton, Christine, Jethro tull, randge, Phant2000, Santa, All leg pullers (#63)

8th REQUEST

Ron Paul loves persistent, obedient followers.

BUT LET ME WARN YOU ERIC, HE EXPECTS LOOT, so if you are NOT a cheerful giver, there may be a problem.

Those bells you hear in your head Eric are sleigh bells out on a practice run, do not warn the rest of the cell....hehehehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   17:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: BTP Holdings (#67)

you're alive!!! where 'ya been???

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-12-09   18:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Cynicom, Eric Stratton (#71)

Eric isn't asking which horse you DID support (which you made clear was none) but which horse, IN HINDSIGHT, you WOULD have supported if you knew what you know NOW? And I concur, you have NOT yet answered the question.

The only one trying to create an underground Ron Paul support group is Goldi on her own site. Think about that for a moment and maybe you'll know what I'm talking about.

Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
If you believe in small government, then you shouldn't be in the White House.

PnbC  posted on  2010-12-09   18:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: PnbC (#73)

Eric isn't asking which horse you DID support (which you made clear was none)

Wrong...

I supported Ronald P. Paul here on 4um to the tune of $2000.00.

Plus what I sent along as a personal donation.

People with political savvy, read the Trotski memo and turned off the money spigot. I did.

Ron Paul bared his inner soul to anyone willing to understand.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   18:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Cynicom, STOP THE KENYAN, 4 (#71)

BUT LET ME WARN YOU ERIC, HE EXPECTS LOOT, so if you are NOT a cheerful giver, there may be a problem.

If Ron Paul, in his new position of power, drags that slimy Jew bastard Bernanke in front of his subcommittee on a regular basis, and grill his commie ass off, I will be *elated* to place him back on the pad :P

GO RON GO (and Rand too!)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-09   18:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Jethro Tull (#75)

If Ron Paul, in his new position of power, drags that slimy Jew bastard Bernanke in front of his subcommittee on a regular basis, and grill his commie ass off, I will be *elated* to place him back on the pad :P

Jethro, you are a realist.

Ron can do all within his power to topple the corrupt Fed, when talk and smoke clears, it is once again the Justice Dept that must act.

Other than that, Paul understands that the only other route is via the full House, Senate and President to undo the evil of 1913.

I cannot see that happening. One has to be realistic.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   18:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Cynicom (#74) (Edited)

I stand corrected regarding your past support.

But I'll tell you THIS. Ron Paul did such an OUTSTANDING job educating Americans about war, the economy, and liberty that I would have given him money again knowing full well how his campaign went, even if he didn't go 3rd party.

There was no real hope of his getting elected regardless of what he did. What he did accomplish was one of the most amazing SPEAKING TOURS in the history of America in the guise of a presidential campaign. In any case, his new position in the monetary subcommittee makes it less likely that he will run for prez in 2012.

Hate him all you want, but you offer no solutions.

Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war.
If you believe in small government, then you shouldn't be in the White House.

PnbC  posted on  2010-12-09   18:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Cynicom (#76)

I cannot see that happening. One has to be realistic.

I understand, but never in our recent history will a man with such a deep understanding of the Fed be in a position to expose it for all to see. And try as they did, the MSM failed in painting Paul a KooK. He has credibility. First we educate then we stoke the ovens.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-09   18:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: PnbC, 4 (#77)

Always remember that RP was the hands-down winner of Who Would the World Elect website with his message of Freedom, Peace and Prosperity.

It resonates with all of us.

Lod  posted on  2010-12-09   18:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: PnbC (#77)

I'll tell you THIS. Ron Paul did such an OUTSTANDING job educating Americans about war, the economy, and liberty that I would have given him money again knowing full well how his campaign went, even if he didn't go 3rd party

That he did. And NO ONE here championed his cause financially any more than myself.

When money was solicited, the silence on 4um was deafening. Those that chose to talk the talk only, know who they are.

I did many long years in backroom politics, and ALWAYS the loudest talkers did not walk the walk. When money is the subject, the hearing of most goes South, it was done here on 4um by myself and a few others.

I know who talked the talk and what few walked the walk. Still friends, but that is the way it is with politics.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   18:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Jethro Tull (#78)

I understand, but never in our recent history will a man with such a deep understanding of the Fed be in a position to expose it for all to see.

McFadden was a banker by profession, not a politician, same as Ron Paul, he took it to the top and was killed for it, as were others.

Anti FED RES started before 1913, with Lindbergh, he failed and they tried to kill him, after that there have been several good men that have tried, with NO success.

This Jew corrupt cancer has been on our backs for nearly 100 years. It is not fatalism that says we will not change it from within, rather it is realism, accepting what we cannot do.

Only force will ever rid us of this parasite, nothing else.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   18:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Cynicom (#71) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:01:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: PnbC (#73)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Cynicom, PnbC (#74)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:08:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Eric Stratton (#82)

Straight out of the thread/discussion disruption manual.

disruption????

I thot Ron Paul was the subject of the original article?????

Perhaps my comprehension is slipping.

If you are a Paul supporter, good for you, good man, just do not expect any return on your support and or donations.

Heaven forbid that anyone would entertain the horrible thot that Paul intentionally or not served a useful purpose to the "two party" sysrtem.

It is surprising to see how many good people still support the sytem and our corrupt government.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   19:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Cynicom (#76)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Eric Stratton (#84)

Cyni's apparently a little bit bitter than the political process doesn't quite work like he was taught in 7th grade.

eric...

I hope such immature remarks as that are below your normal social discourse.

It is nothing personal, it is politics, and I am not one that goes with the flow or the pied piper and his crew.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   19:12:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: PnbC (#77)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Cynicom (#80)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Cynicom (#85)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Eric Stratton (#86)

If he can simply sway public opinion, the PTB will have a nightmare on their hands.

Eric...

Do me a favor and read this, takes two minutes.

McFadden was a local boy, down the road a piece. Besides being murdered, he has been wiped away in our history books, skools and colleges.

He was a banking expert, non partisan and worked from a much stronger position than Paul, yet he was a total failure.

McFadden paid with his life, yet Paul remains a member in good standing within the republican party. Odd.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   19:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Cynicom (#87)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Cynicom (#91)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:21:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Eric Stratton (#92)

Eric...

Sorry you feel that way. Letting a discussion become personal is always bad.

I do not look at you in that light.

Read the url I gave you, nothing of me in there, just history in all its bare truth.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   19:22:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Eric Stratton (#93)

Sorry bout that...

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article5556.html

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   19:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Lod (#79)

Always remember that RP was the hands-down winner of Who Would the World Elect website with his message of Freedom, Peace and Prosperity.

It's still surprising to me, that with all the independents and clear-thinking folks who usually vote (D) on board that we wound up with a turd like McCain as the nominee. Marxists "celebrate" masochism, GOP diehards revel in it.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-12-09   19:26:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Cynicom (#91)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Cynicom (#94)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Cynicom (#95)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:29:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Cynicom (#94)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Eric Stratton (#100)

passive aggressiveness,

Never heard of such, sounds like a contradiction?????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   19:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Eric Stratton (#97)

Nowhere in this thread did I think or feel like I suggested that I ever at any time felt that RP would actually be a change agent within the system.

Change Agent, Eric?

You monster!!!!

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2010-12-09   19:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Cynicom (#95)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:44:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Cynicom (#101)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Eric Stratton (#103)

What's your point on this? Succinctly please, without 14 posts going round and round...

No point Eric...

Tone down your hostility please.

Accepting you read and digested about McFadden, do you see a comparison with Paul and his efforts????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   19:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Cynicom (#105)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   19:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Eric Stratton (#106)

bunch of stuff that I largely already knew?

Really???

Difficult to believe anyone could be conversant about McFadden, yet expect positive results from Ron Paul. Not many colleges mention McFadden except in financial/economics degrees. Most prefer to let him rest in history along with several others, to which Paul will join in obscurity.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   19:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Eric Stratton (#106)

passive aggressiveness.

You brought it up, not in the original post.

I brot up McFadden, gave you a url to read.

Still sounds like a contradiction??? What course in college taught that????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   20:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: All (#107)

voices.washingtonpost.com...o-chair-monetary-pol.html

Proof positive that it was the Tea Party movement that put RP in a position to educate the nation. A small, but not inconsequential, political victory.

Ron Paul to chair monetary policy subcommittee overseeing Fed

By Felicia Sonmez

Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul is poised to chair the House Domestic Monetary Policy Subcommittee, putting the gavel of the panel overseeing the Federal Reserve into the hands of one of the central bank's most outspoken critics.

Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.), the incoming chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, announced Thursday that Paul will head the subcommittee when Republicans assume the majority in the 112th Congress.

"This is the leadership team that crafted the first comprehensive financial reform bill to put an end to the bailouts, wind down the taxpayer funding of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and enforce a strong audit of the Federal Reserve," Bachus said in a statement, adding that the committee's "first priority is to end the taxpayer funded bailout of Fannie and Freddie."

On Wednesday, a group of about 30 tea party-aligned groups wrote a letter urging Bachus and House Speaker-designate John Boehner (R-Ohio) to support Paul's bid for subcommittee chairman. The letter was in response to reports that GOP leaders were mulling ways to block Paul from becoming chairman over concerns that his views are too radical.

In the letter, the groups warned that the "implied message" of blocking Paul would be "one of indifference towards the concerns of those who helped put the Republican Party back in the majority."

Paul has been a harsh critic of the Federal Reserve and has pushed for measures that would audit the central bank or abolish it altogether. The subcommittee also has jurisdiction over "precious metals," and Paul has advocated a return to the gold standard.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-09   20:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Jethro Tull (#109)

enforce a strong audit of the Federal Reserve,"

Audit????

They need to go to prison.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   20:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Cynicom (#110)

They need to be dead, but since nobody is going Joe Stack on them, lets get them there in stages.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-09   20:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Jethro Tull (#111)

"Paul M. Warburg New York Aug. 10, 1914 Term expired Aug. 9, 1918. Frederic A. Delano Chicago Aug. 10, 1914 Resigned July 21, 1918."

Warburg was the gentleman that told Congress we would have a one world government whether we liked it or not.

Delano was Franklin Roosevelts uncle..

He and Warburg were two of the original members of Fed Res...

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   20:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Cynicom (#108)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   20:29:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Cynicom (#110)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   20:30:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Eric Stratton (#113)

This entire thread with you has therefore been a complete waste of time.

For you perhaps, but not for me.

I have learned a great deal.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   21:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Cynicom (#115)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-09   22:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Eric Stratton (#116)

. I've learned all but nothing from our exchange in this thread. About the relevant topics that is.

Well, that makes me a failure.

I do try to pass along experience from life.

Well, Paul was the topic and via history I did try to show how others had tried and failed with the Fed.

The only time I was upset with Paul was when he turned over his donors list to his son. That is a political no no. The personal phone calls in his name asking for money for his son was over the top. We had to become very stern with Rands solicitors, to stop calling, or else. They apologized and did remove our names from their list.

OK, off topic.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-09   22:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Cynicom, All (#117)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-10   8:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#72)

where 'ya been???

Been sick with meningitis. Getting well and working to make some cash.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2010-12-13   16:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#72)

you're alive!!! where 'ya been???

Been sick with meningitis.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2010-12-14   16:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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