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Title: Tortured FBI whistleblower warns WikiLeaks fans
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URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/human-right ... tleblower-warns-wikileaks-fans
Published: Dec 9, 2010
Author: Deborah Dupré
Post Date: 2010-12-10 07:45:07 by GreyLmist
Keywords: WikiLeaks, Cointelpro, Legal Restorative Justice Revo
Views: 872
Comments: 83
An FBI whistleblower has alerted that supporting WikiLeaks founder, Julius Assange and subsequently calling for revolution due to government cover-ups are intended results of a counterintelligence reverse tactic not in best interest of the public. Bob Levin, FBI targeted whistleblower since 2000, knows sophisticated counterintelligence tactics designed to manipulate the unwitting. Levin has lectured Special Agents in Training at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia. He has been requested to brief Counterterrorism Taskforce Agents relating to his skill sets and investigative techniques. “My background was in codes and local, specialized state and federal law enforcement that ended in the FBI,” Levin wrote to this writer in an email. Levin is now one of thousands of Targeted Individuals in the United States, battling to survive both a hidden form of CIA torture he knows to be part of the CIA Torture Paradigm inflicting citizens in U.S. neighborhoods plus ongoing Cointelpro tactics used in conjunction with the torure. The combined effect is to ruin lives and even assassinate. The torture Levin experiences is hidden by nature of military grade Directed Energy technology used on targets and their property. This form of torture is also hidden by mainstream media, another indication that corporate owned media no longer serves best interest of the public. “I became a validated FBI whistleblower in 2000 and have remained sanctioned in political retribution while targeted under the CIA Torture Paradigm and ongoing illegal Cointelpro operations. On December 8, Levin distributed an emailed alert using the following example posted by a WikiLeaks supporter: “People NEED to be supporting Julian Assange through this ridiculous time. What a brave man for sharing the truth with the world. The governments of the world are just digging themselves a hole. IT'S TIME FOR A REVOLUTION!!!” Levin’s email warned about “FBI, CIA and NSA counterintelligence reverse tactics used to bait passionate persons into an actionable trap.” The recent operation on Somali and Nicaraguan youths that psychologically herded them into acts of terrorism need be a warning to Americans about PSYOPS master-minded so that innocent people are roped into actions against their best interest according to Levin. “I’ve trained agents to do this against criminal targets, but as we know, these agencies have increasingly been politicized like the Gestapo,” he stated. Legal Restorative Justice Revolution Answering the call to support WikiLeaks and revolt, Levin advocates a restorative revolution under lawful terms of the U.S. Declaration of Independence. This type of revolution “begins with a series of nation strikes and boycotts, followed by insistence that the USDOJ prosecute culpable congressional actors under FBI investigations as named by whistleblower patriots.” Beyond that, Levin says, “It is imperative that no person allow their passions to exceed lawful conduct or solicit any manner of harm to another human being.” “We the people must stand with a greater moral compass than the continuing criminal enterprise operating beneath the mask of the U.S. government.” “What is important for activists not coming from my background to remember is that there are regular good people in the FBI, CIA and other agencies. There are exceptions in most things and we notice the outlaws more than those following their oaths. How many FBI are good guys? “At least 85% of one FBI field office shares my views,” says Levin. “Hollywood's depiction of the FBI has a lot of BS.” According to Levin, agents curse like sailors behind closed doors, some hold their own drinking bourbon, and others are incredible bakers and dinner party hosts. “The point is that we are only as strong as the weakest of our parts and cannot allow the corrupt ruling class to turn us against ourselves.” Countering sophisticated psychological operations calls for knowledge and restraint, else targets in the WikiLeaks scenario, including the American public, can be easily be led to act against its best interest. “I hope you will share my thoughts with others and please do not support any violent or unlawful activities possibly solicited by others who do not possess your good character” Levin’s opinions can be viewed online within All Voices and Scribd. According to Levin, when his Blackfile summary report is published, its pages of truth will dwarf present embarrassment of the government from Julian Assange and WikiLeaks' released diplomatic communications.
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#1. To: GreyLmist (#0)
Sound like Jew Levin needs to run to the grocery store and pick up some tin foil. I hear it works wonders.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
Fuck that kike and the horse he rode in on. Does anyone really think that our "leaders" will respect the law and not try and do us harm? Is anyone here really that fucking stupid? Anyone? It has nothing to do with "passions" either, you fucking kike. It has everything to do with THEIR passions and THEIR actions. .
The torture Levin experiences is hidden by nature of military grade Directed Energy technology used on targets and their property. This form of torture is also hidden by mainstream media, another indication that corporate owned media no longer serves best interest of the public.
#2. To: GreyLmist (#0)
Beyond that, Levin says, “It is imperative that no person allow their passions to exceed lawful conduct or solicit any manner of harm to another human being.”
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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#3. To: PSUSA, F.A. Hayek Fan (#2)
He didn't say not to defend ourselves if being fired upon by them.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#4. To: GreyLmist (#0)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#5. To: All (#0)
Sounds like a good idea to me, whether his name is Levin or not, because the Constitution is lawfully on our side, not the goons arrayed against it.
Levin advocates a restorative revolution under lawful terms of the U.S. Declaration of Independence.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#6. To: Eric Stratton (#4)
That might be an overly generous estimation on his part, I don't know. We can hope it's close to correct. If you'd rather not, then don't.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#7. To: GreyLmist (#3) (Edited)
That is not how I read it. Look at it in context: This type of revolution “begins with a series of nation strikes and boycotts, followed by insistence that the USDOJ prosecute culpable congressional actors under FBI investigations as named by whistleblower patriots.” Beyond that, Levin says, “It is imperative that no person allow their passions to exceed lawful conduct or solicit any manner of harm to another human being.” “We the people must stand with a greater moral compass than the continuing criminal enterprise operating beneath the mask of the U.S. government.” Now, piece by piece: This type of revolution “begins with a series of nation strikes and boycotts, followed by insistence that the USDOJ prosecute culpable congressional actors under FBI investigations as named by whistleblower patriots.” OK, that is where it begins. But that is not where it ends. Fat fucking chance of these investigations ever happening anyway, no matter what pressure is applied. The government will have no choice but to escalate things. Beyond that, Levin says, “It is imperative that no person allow their passions to exceed lawful conduct or solicit any manner of harm to another human being.” This is suicidal non-violence crap. There is no such thing as "beyond that". That is a limitation that he is attempting to impose on us. It is not a limitation that our government will honor. They have no honor. One cannot simply take the violence option off the table, because violence will be used against us. They will be the ones to fire the first shot, imo, and not us. This is a limitation that the PTB will never accept, and we shouldn't either. They are the murderers and thieves, not us. “We the people must stand with a greater moral compass than the continuing criminal enterprise operating beneath the mask of the U.S. government.” Deadly force is a moral option when facing deadly force from others. To pretend otherwise is to commit suicide by proxy. I think it's funny how a kike is attempting to teach us anything about "moral compasses", like they are experts at it or something. .
He didn't say not to defend ourselves if being fired upon by them.
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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#8. To: GreyLmist (#6)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#9. To: Eric Stratton (#8)
I think there are probably more people trying to do good than you think there are or our Communications could have been taken out by now.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#10. To: PSUSA (#7)
Self defense is not exceeding lawful conduct. People pushing for war to harm other human beings as punishment isn't self-defense and sinking down to their level. Surely you know the difference, PSUSA. If I thought he was calling for us to be suicidal and taking off the table the right to protect ourselves and our loved ones with arms if under attack, I wouldn't even have posted it. I believe he meant to caution us against warmongers who are on a path to get us and ours fired at and to encourage those seeking to demonstrate that it is not us who are in revolt against America's rightful form of government but those imposters opposed to it who have no legitimate authority here.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#11. To: Eric Stratton, GreyLmist (#8)
While I would think it probably a little overgenerous in his estimate 75 - 80% would not be unreasonable. It really only takes a few at the top, a couple of percent, to pervert an entire organization or group. As such warped and perverted personalities move into positions of authority they in turn promote and recruit others of their ilk while providing "rationales" for their sick behavior e.g., "National Security" or "Racial Purity". However, the supply of sociopaths is not unlimited. The problem is that too many will "go along to get along" - mostly out of fear. As long as they personally are not being adversely affected, or not enough to get them to act, they and the entire handcar to hell goes merrily careening along its track to a dead end.
If 85% were good, then 85% of the abuse wouldn't exist, if not nearly 100% since the "good" would override the abusive, oppressive, and tyrannical.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#12. To: GreyLmist, PSUSA (#10)
Of course he does. However, preaching peaceful non-violent resistance is not what he is paid to do. Like the crud who egged on that weak minded Somali kid until he did something stupid his function is try to agitate and provoke people into making rash or stupid moves that can then be crushed.
Self defense is not exceeding lawful conduct. People pushing for war to harm other human beings as punishment isn't self-defense and sinking down to their level. Surely you know the difference, PSUSA.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#13. To: GreyLmist (#9)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#14. To: GreyLmist (#10) (Edited)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#15. To: GreyLmist (#0) (Edited)
Levin is now one of thousands of Targeted Individuals in the United States, battling to survive both a hidden form of CIA torture he knows to be part of the CIA Torture Paradigm inflicting citizens in U.S. neighborhoods plus ongoing Cointelpro tactics used in conjunction with the torure. The combined effect is to ruin lives and even assassinate. The torture Levin experiences is hidden by nature of military grade Directed Energy technology used on targets and their property. This form of torture is also hidden by mainstream media, another indication that corporate owned media no longer serves best interest of the public. Shiite, he had me in his camp before he mentioned THAT. http://www.us-government-torture.com/ I don't care what his name is, he's an enemy of the state. Mine enemy's enemy, is mine friend. edit. better link: www.us-government-torture.com/B-index.html
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#16. To: GreyLmist (#10)
If you get a chance, would you mind listening to this and tell me your impressions? www.republicoftheunitedst...eklyNotice-12-08-2010.mp3 It's from www.republicoftheunitedstates.org Thanks.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#17. To: Original_Intent (#11)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#18. To: GreyLmist (#10)
OK, I agree, but that is not what the kike said. He said, and I quote, " Beyond that (strikes, silly protests, etc), Levin says, “It is imperative that no person allow their passions to exceed lawful conduct or solicit any manner of harm to another human being.” " Those were his words, not mine, and the meaning is clear. HE is the one that takes self defense off the table. If I thought he was calling for us to be suicidal and taking off the table the right to protect ourselves and our loved ones with arms if under attack, I wouldn't even have posted it. I know that. It's not you that I directed this at, but the kike. It is HIS words, not yours. HE, by his words, want us to be defenseless. He couches it in some high-minded ideals, as if a kike can do such a thing, but revolutions are not fought by high-minded ideals. They are fought with force. And force is the only thing that the PTB fear. They don't give a flying fuck about protests. He is trying to take away the only real weapon that we have. Tell me, what do you think a revolution is? Is it done by debate and reason by people wearing Brooks Brothers suits? Or is it done through force, violence and death? Which is it? I dont like the idea of killing and probably dying myhself, any more than you do. But it is foolish to ignore it and hope it all goes away, or that somehow our leaders suddenly develop a conscience and do the right thing. When is the last time they did that? Psychopaths aren't known for having a conscience. I believe he meant... This is where our difference in opinion is coming from. I go by what he said, not what I believe he meant. To me, his meaning is clear. .
Self defense is not exceeding lawful conduct.
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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#19. To: Original_Intent (#11) (Edited)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#20. To: GreyLmist (#0)
Perhaps if he used a double layer of tinfoil...
The torture Levin experiences is hidden by nature of military grade Directed Energy technology used on targets and their property.
#21. To: Eric Stratton, GreyLmist (#19)
And as a last resort, if the "bad" is too much for you if you're truly good, then f'ing quit! Who's preventing that? Oh, I never said that even ordinarily well intended people do not act irrationally or immorally. I'm not defending their behavior. What I'm trying to point out is simply that the source of the rot comes from a relatively small percentage. Once the rot sets in you have to identify it and excise it, but unfortunately government has no self correcting mechanism to do that. So, those who would otherwise behave decently, absent the rot, go along. I'm not defending it merely analyzing and examining how it works.
And where are all of the "Oathkeepers" then? Seems to me there shouldn't be any pressure to "join" if what you say is true.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#22. To: L Ron Paul Hubbard (#20)
Perhaps if he used a double layer of tinfoil... Ahh, verrrrry gut ssitisen. You haf been usink der korrect meeeedia sorcess. You are a gut liddle sssitizen. Now, go back to sleep. All iss vell, der guffermint luffs you, var iss peasse, ignorance iss strength, ...
The torture Levin experiences is hidden by nature of military grade Directed Energy technology used on targets and their property.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#23. To: Original_Intent (#21) (Edited)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#24. To: GreyLmist (#0)
While I knew it wouldn't be the preamble. agents curse like sailors behind closed doors, some hold their own drinking bourbon, and others are incredible bakers and dinner party hosts. That's nice. Any racists? (not named Levin, that is.)
U.S. Declaration of Independence.
A Paul for President!
Whites need to be shown darkie won't vote for him.
#25. To: Original_Intent (#21)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#26. To: Eric Stratton (#23)
There is a flip side to that. If all the people with decent tendencies quit, rather than trying to be as decent as they can be what kind of people does that leave? Quitting, and separating is a solution, but we need decent people in those positions and to establish a means to identify the sociopaths and psychos and get rid of THEM. I don't have a good short term solution. I can look at it and say "well this would be the ideal scene", but we do not currently have the "ideal scene". So, what is needed is not an exodus of all the good people but putting in ethics to identify the bad ones, get rid of them, and clean up the decent ones that are left.
If I were in an LEO role and were told to go do something unconstitutional, I fucking-guarantee you that my resignation would be on the desk of my boss as soon after as long as it took me to type the fucking thing.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#27. To: All (#21)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#28. To: Eric Stratton (#27)
If welfare recipients were doubled/tripled/quadrupled and corporate welfare stopped ... we'd have a surplus beyond measure. Your comments above are perfect !
These people get paid, to uphold our Constitution and thereby Liberty! If they cannot do that, then accepting money to silently acquiesce to something else, at least in my book, and when they're not earning it otherwise, is worse than just collecting a welfare check and food stamps!
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Revere God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man".
#29. To: Original_Intent (#26)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#30. To: noone222 (#28)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#31. To: Original_Intent (#26) (Edited)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#32. To: Original_Intent (#26) (Edited)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#33. To: Eric Stratton (#29)
Don't take me wrong - I would not even apply for such a position. Nothing naive about it at all. I recognize that the government, via SOME corrupt people running the show is at this juncture little different from La Cosa Nostra (if anything the Mob is more ethical and more benign). What I was stating is what needs to be in place to correct the problem. While we may both desire an ideal scene what we have to work with is the existing scene. I am not defending them. I am trying to be objective and look rationally at what needs to be done to correct the situation, and not becoming enwrapped in my emotional response to stomach turning evil. Rejecting it is a good thing, but in a world of broken straws we have to look for a workable solution. Absolutes are only obtainable in theory. I am a realist with idealistic tendencies, but a realist nonetheless. Absolutes are not obtainable in the real world. We can, over time, push the existing scene closer to the ideal scene, but just as the corruption did not become the norm over night the solution will not, cannot, be implemented over night. If I were dictator for a year I could, and would, ruthlessly excise much of the corruption, but that is not reality.
Would you agree to that? Otherwise WTF's the difference besides that one's physical while one's financial?
Please don't take this personally as it's nowhere near meant to be, but this qualifies for naive post of the day.
Why are you defending people acquiescing to tyranny?!?!
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#34. To: Eric Stratton (#32)
I ain't holdin' my breath! And frankly, if you're right, then they should "frag" themselves within 72 hours at that point, right? And then we have absolutely nothing to worry about, so why worry, it'll all shake out when the orders for a full-bore police-state go active. Funny though, I don't see it happening incrementally though. I mean how much reaction from within the LEO community do you see? I see absolutely nothing significant. It won't change when the code red orders are given! Like in Nazi Germany or Stalin's USSR good people WILL do horrific things under the right wrong conditions. That is why we have to work to forestall that ever coming to be. That is why we have so much ongoing Psychiatric conditioning in our society via "Tee Bee" and "Video Games" as well as common culture such as "Gangsta' Rap". It is a concerted push to normalize the abnormal - to make perversion the norm. Rejecting is the right thing to do. However, correcting it and eliminating it is the objective.
Just wait until "all the stops" are pulled out and LEOs have the authority to go full bore. We'll see how many "good ones" there are then.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#35. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#16) (Edited)
www.republicoftheunitedst...eklyNotice-12- 08-2010.mp3 It's from www.republicoftheunitedstates.o rg Thanks. Gladly and as soon as I can. Thanks very much for the links to introduce us to more friends of the Constitution working together in alliance to assist Americans back to it on a Peaceable path. I checked out the website and think our Founders would give this statement their approval: Who are “We”- We are Americans. All of us may not agree with all of these qualities/virtues, but we are Americans that want true freedom. We are Americans like all the many others out there that know something is wrong. We are Americans that have taken action, using a pen, through peaceable means. Conservative/Or Maybe Not - Honorable - Pro-Liberty - Freedom to God Worshiping - Pro-Smaller Government Non-Confrontational - Pro-Freedom - Hard Working - Pro- Securing Our Borders - Non-Violent Pro-Justice - Tax Paying - Peace Loving - Children Loving - Patriotic - Truth Seeking We believe that the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution for the united States of America as conceived by the founding fathers would if administered as conceived, return Americans back to a freedom and prosperity that cannot fully be comprehended. We believe at this time in history it is the people who may best save our nation. We believe that the current policies and practices by actors that purport to have America’s best interest in mind are morally bankrupt. It is the people then that must create an alternate proposal. What have “We” done- What a group of Americans have done then is simple! We have restored “The Republic of the united States of America”. The vehicle used to accomplish this task were Americans who stood up. The fuel was left for us over 220 years ago in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution for the united States of America, the Bill of Rights, Amendments, 11, 12, and the original 13th. A plan supported by many Americans in all 50 republic “states” was implemented. That plan created a provisional structure where Americans can peaceably assemble and re-inhabit the de Jure seats of government as intended by our founding fathers. What can “We” offer – We, being the people who stood up, through the construct of the “Restored Republic” offer to all Americans true liberty, freedom, and justice for all. All that is required is your say so. What will it do? – When all Americans that are not happy with the path our nation is clearly headed down, join those that have already signed onto “The Republic of the united States of America”, our future can and will be transformed back to a de Jure form of governance as originally intended. The specific benefits shall be described in forthcoming press releases.
If you get a chance, would you mind listening to this and tell me your impressions?
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#36. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#24) (Edited)
You: That's nice. Any racists? (not named Levin, that is.) Your guess is probably as good as mine.
Article: agents curse like sailors behind closed doors, some hold their own drinking bourbon, and others are incredible bakers and dinner party hosts.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#37. To: Original_Intent (#33)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#38. To: Original_Intent (#34)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#39. To: Eric Stratton (#37)
No, but that is exactly the type of personality that the controllers are screening for. She looks like TSA "material". And I simply think you are being too pessimistic. We are in a dark hour but the game is not yet decided. But I don't expect change from "within". The change is going to come from people outside first pushing and then allying with the few people inside who are courageous enough to want to "clean up Dodge". Like I said, this is not an overnight proposition, but once the elite's system begins to collapse it is going to go very fast. It just seems slow now because are in the middle of just about the worst of it. However, the contradictions are building and more people are awakening. No, we aren't there yet and it will likely get a bit worse before it gets better. The next year and a half is going to be tough.
Now, is that the kind of people we need as cops? Angry dyke types that likely have absolutely no morality but their own?
Again, this statement leaves me scratching my head!!
No, we can't.
You/we are absolutely not going to push anything towards the "ideal!" Ain't happening!!!
But we are never going to achieve anything at all unless we break free from the central banking system. And that ain't happening without a heapin' helpin' of major societal trauma. But to expect agents within it to change it from within, yes, it's complete folly.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#40. To: Eric Stratton (#38)
Well, we do not have that moral base. So even if we wanted to get back to it, it's impossible. The best that we can hope for is a sliver of that. One whereby out of necessity things function as they should. Again, while I agree we are facing a dark time. I also see hopeful signs and building counter forces. However, we do have a fight on our hands.
Look, the founding fathers, John Adams I believe, stated/avered openly that our form of government, that they created, not what now exists, was designed purely for a moral/Godly people and that it was "unsuitable for any other."
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#41. To: Original_Intent (#39)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#42. To: Original_Intent (#40) (Edited)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#43. To: Eric Stratton (#41)
Losing the Internet would be a problem, but would not derail the changes that are already taking place. Perhaps I am optimistic, but while history is to some degree cyclic as Parmenides put it: "You can never step in the same river twice." The Turd Reich crumbled, Stalin's USSR crumbled, and MAO's China is transforming. No, the portents are grim, but when I speak to people there is an intangible, a growing awareness. It is hard to put my finger on, but there is the barest hint of a fresh breeze. We shall see. It may be that the Psychos will have a brief reign, but they are incapable of building a lasting society. Like all psychotics their level of creation is destruction. They only thing they can do well is to destroy. So, we shall see. Stay Tuned.
I'm not sure there's much reason to continue this. We're not making any progress. But the whole talk about the internet now being limited, which would just be the beginning not the end of further limitations, as a result of WikiLeaks, is the very first thing that suggests that you're on the wrong track in your thinking.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#44. To: Eric Stratton (#42)
The desire for liberty beats in near every heart. It is simply a matter of fanning the flames to rekindle the torch.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#45. To: Original_Intent (#44)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#46. To: Original_Intent (#43)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#47. To: Eric Stratton (#46)
No, I don't necessarily think that. The basic form will remain the same, but we are in for change, and not the kind of change brought by Barry Barack Hussein Soebama. I don't know what shape it will take, but no, old Parmenides was right. The river will change.
You seem to think that generally speaking many institutions will remain in tact, whereas I wonder how then change towards liberty will come about.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#48. To: Original_Intent (#47)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#49. To: Original_Intent (#47)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#50. To: Eric Stratton (#49)
That is ever the case. The majority of people are Sheeple. Only about 3-5 percent actually participated in the American Revolution. The majority of people in the South opposed Secession, but had it driven down their throats by the Legislatures and then they took up arms only because they felt the call of duty to defend their State. However, I suspect the unseen and under reported statistic is the decline in air travel. People are avoiding air travel when possible. The Thanksgiving Holiday saw a major decline in flying (about 13% from one account I read) and a major increase in people traveling by other means - mostly automobile. The other element is that people, a lot of them, are still dully taking the schlock sold to them by the controlled media as true. And the media has been doing a lot to promote fear. In keeping with that is the Dyke in Charge of DHS and the new campaign to keep people scared with the watch and snitch campaign at Wally Mart. People are being bombarded with control messages all scientifically designed by Psychiatrists and Psychologists to push all the right buttons to keep them controlled. So, it is no surprise to me that those who rely on the Idiot Toob and don't read much are firmly under control. And that is the reason the skools were dumbed down. The lower the literacy level the less aware. Our would-be masters and mistresses disapprove of the "lower orders" thinking and being aware. It upsets their sense of superiority, and being intellectual lightweights it just galls them that any of the "lower orders" might be more literate and brighter than they.
I was just out and about, and while driving around I was thinking, to counter your points to an extent, it still seems like a vast majority still don't mind the FedGov "doing whatever it takes" to "protect them."
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#51. To: PSUSA (#18) (Edited)
Those were his words, not mine, and the meaning is clear. HE is the one that takes self defense off the table. Well, I'm putting it on the table myself, alongside the 2nd Amendment. Of course I believe it's best if war doesn't erupt around us and prayerfully hope that it doesn't but of course do use your lawful rights to defend yourself and others if you must from attack. Being destroyed as suicidal sitting ducks would be most unwise and worse than no resistance to the despicable depopulation agendas, etc., of the Tyrannicals. There's some chance that a return to the Constitution can be accomplished with no war casualties inflicted on us if we try to work for that peacefully and determinedly but almost no chance by warpath of accomplishing that without mass casualties and devastation. My opinion is that the only sensible option we have, really, is to peacefully do the best we can to reach our objectives without warmongering and hopefully without being forced into war. Tell me, what do you think a revolution is? Is it done by debate and reason by people wearing Brooks Brothers suits? Or is it done through force, violence and death? Which is it? It can be done by debate and reason but I prefer a casual dress code. It can be done through force, violence and death. It can be done through both options: “The Revolution was effected before the War commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments of their duties and obligations. This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people, was the real American Revolution.” -- John Adams That shouldn't be construed as an endorsement by me of John Adams as a Founding model of perfection. He wasn't, imo, but I do believe those words are true. I also believe war isn't inevitable if we resist the illusions that it's in our best interest to choose that route as most efficient, most Patriotic, and so on. Yes, it would be foolish to ignore it and it's not likely to all go away if we do nothing constructive to banish it. Hope and work for the best but prepare for other possibilities because they're so habituated to oppression and greed and whatnot. It would be like a miracle if they suddenly developed a conscience and did the right thing but try not to think of them as "our leaders" if they don't do that -- or even if they surprisingly do. My advice is to think of the Constitution as America's leader in governance and people in elected office or appointments or other such capacities as temp-workers who either serve Constitutionally and honorably or don't belong there and forfeit their official assignments and authorizations by breach of contract. I'm going to try rewording his statement to explain it as I see it: “It is imperative that no person allow their passions to exceed lawful conduct or solicit any manner of harm to another human being.” It is imperative that no person allow their passions to solicit any manner of harm to another human being or exceed lawful conduct. Maybe he's just not a top-notch sentence structurer and thought he was implicitly conveying self-defense as obviously within lawful conduct while drawing a distinction between that and unlawful intent to inflict bodily harm as motivated by emotions like vengeance? Goodness knows I'm no expert in judging sentence structure but, if it's still a sticking place with you, I'd say just do what you can to set it aside some and try to focus on his overall message. I got the impression that he was mostly trying to warn WikiLeaks supporters against being hyped-up by entrapment designers to commit violence in revolt and retribution for government cover-ups and Assange's arrest. I'm not a WikiLeaks supporter but thought it was kindly of the author to make the effort to help if he could.
He said, and I quote, " Beyond that (strikes, silly protests, etc), Levin says, “It is imperative that no person allow their passions to exceed lawful conduct or solicit any manner of harm to another human being.” "
revolutions are not fought by high-minded ideals. They are fought with force. And force is the only thing that the PTB fear. They don't give a flying fuck about protests. He is trying to take away the only real weapon that we have.
I dont like the idea of killing and probably dying myhself, any more than you do. But it is foolish to ignore it and hope it all goes away, or that somehow our leaders suddenly develop a conscience and do the right thing. When is the last time they did that? Psychopaths aren't known for having a conscience.
This is where our difference in opinion is coming from. I go by what he [Levin] said, not what I believe he meant. To me, his meaning is clear.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#52. To: Original_Intent (#50)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#53. To: Eric Stratton (#52)
That is why an armed revolt is flat stupid. The few voices that I see on 4um advocating such are mainly people I've categorized as likely government stooges anyway. Even if I were planning a violent act, which I am not, I sure as hell would not be stupid enough to blab about it on an internet forum. No, the revolution we are building now is one of ideas and spirituality. If man is to be free and stay free he must first realize that he is a spirit first and a body is nothing more than animate meat - clothing for 1 lifetime only, but that the person, the spirit, or soul if you prefer (I generally avoid the word soul because it promotes misunderstandings - too many people think they HAVE a soul when that is just bass ackwards - they ARE a soul and HAVE a body), is the person not their body. We are now on the cusp. It is the best of times and worst of times. Which will win out in the end is not yet fully decided, but I think, in the end, the good guys will win out. However, that won't happen if we grow faint of heart and become wrapped up in thinking dim thoughts. In the end the winners always are those who are true to the highest ideals. That also has the advantage of irking the shit out of the psychotics.
Today one person for the Tyranny can wipe out hundreds, thousands, or even millions.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#54. To: Original_Intent (#53)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#55. To: GreyLmist (#51)
I agree with that. So do some of the revolutionary guerrilla leaders that I've read. It's not their politics that I care about, but it's their tactics and strategy that matters. Just so that the PTB know that violence is a real possibility. We might be outgunned, but they are outnumbered and can't be everywhere at once. IMO force is the only thing they respect, and fear. But if it can be done by peaceful means, I'm all for it. I'd like nothing better than to live out my life in peace, and I wish that for everyone. But like Burgess Meredith said in Grumpy Old Men, 'you can wish in one hand and crap in the other, and see which fills up first'. “The Revolution was effected before the War commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments of their duties and obligations. This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people, was the real American Revolution.” -- John Adams That shouldn't be construed as an endorsement by me of John Adams as a Founding model of perfection. He wasn't, imo, but I do believe those words are true. I also believe war isn't inevitable if we resist the illusions that it's in our best interest to choose that route as most efficient, most Patriotic, and so on. I think we have what Adams describes, and I think we have it right now. He referred to "the people", but there were only a relatively few patriots at the beginning. I read somewhere between 3-5% showed up to actually fight at the beginning. I think it's safe to say that we have that number, easily. We'll get more as time goes on. And I agree that war is not the most efficient and patriotic option. It's the last option. The only thing we get in war is death. And there are other groups out there besides the JBTs and Patriots, that will take advantage of the situation, like they always do. They have to be dealt with as well. My advice is to think of the Constitution as America's leader in governance and people in elected office or appointments or other such capacities as temp-workers who either serve Constitutionally and honorably or don't belong there and forfeit their official assignments and authorizations by breach of contract. I agree with that. Ideally, that is how it should work. But it doesn't work that way in real life. You know that as well as I do. What do we do about it? They have run this country into the ground. I dont see that as being their ultimate goal like some here do, but more the result of acting like criminals instead of stewards. Goodness knows I'm no expert in judging sentence structure but, if it's still a sticking place with you, I'd say just do what you can to set it aside some and try to focus on his overall message. I got the impression that he was mostly trying to warn WikiLeaks supporters against being hyped-up by entrapment designers to commit violence in revolt and retribution for government cover-ups and Assange's arrest. Fair enough. Let's consider it a warning to wikileaks supporters. I see that as preaching to the choir though. I bet they already know all about entrapment, and I bet that they know what happened to Hal Turner, even if the weasel deserves a cellmate named Tiny. I just go by what is written, because it's all I can go by. It's when I try and assign alternative meanings to what is written that I can be led astray. .
My opinion is that the only sensible option we have, really, is to peacefully do the best we can to reach our objectives without warmongering and hopefully without being forced into war.
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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#56. To: PSUSA, GreyLmist, Original_Intent (#55)
November 10, 2001 - President Bush Speaks to United Nations G.W. Bush:I just go by what is written, because it's all I can go by. It's when I try and assign alternative meanings to what is written that I can be led astray.
"We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty. To inflame ethnic hatred is to advance the cause of terror."
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#57. To: wudidiz (#56)
When has a politician ever spoken the truth about anything? Maybe back in the horse-and-buggy days. Maybe. But recently? .
We must speak the truth about terror.
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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley
#58. To: PSUSA (#57)
They're professional liars.
When has a politician ever spoken the truth about anything?
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#59. To: Eric Stratton (#37)
i for one always thought it was so amusing when the ron paul contingent got so excited & worked up about 'the real prospect' of 'ending the fed'! as if the beast system on earth would be destroyed & dismantled? now that is ludicrous alice in wonderland, rose colored glasses, or whatever you wanna call it, thinking. this doesn't mean i'm hopeless. i always encourage resistance. but i see it as a moral duty more than a belief that things will change. as Jesus said, His Kingdom is not of this world, so my hopes dont lie in ron paul 'ending the fed'. that is truly an absurd notion.in my opinion.
ditch the central banking system
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#60. To: wudidiz (#58)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#61. To: Artisan (#59)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#62. To: Original_Intent (#53)
We are now on the cusp. It is the best of times and worst of times. Which will win out in the end is not yet fully decided, but I think, in the end, the good guys will win out. However, that won't happen if we grow faint of heart and become wrapped up in thinking dim thoughts. In the end the winners always are those who are true to the highest ideals. Oh, I think it was decided long ago, and is being played out now. I wish you would listen to the recording in #16. Background, if you want to wade through it, is here: the revolution we are building now is one of ideas and spirituality. If man is to be free and stay free he must first realize that he is a spirit first and a body is nothing more than animate meat - clothing for 1 lifetime only, but that the person, the spirit, or soul if you prefer (I generally avoid the word soul because it promotes misunderstandings - too many people think they HAVE a soul when that is just bass ackwards - they ARE a soul and HAVE a body), is the person not their body.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#63. To: Original_Intent (#53)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#64. To: GreyLmist, Original_Intent (#0)
don't know if you've seen this: Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has close links to the Economist, controlled by the Rothschild banking family
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#65. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Eric Stratton, Dakmar, Ghengis Gandhi, christine, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, Kamala, CadetD, farmfriend, James Deffenbach, Lod, HighLairEon, abraxas, ratcat, all (#64) (Edited)
I found this point in the linked article particularly instructive (and I would encourage everyone to read it). It is a point I had thought of myself. WeakeyLinks comes out of nowhere in 2006 and receives the accolades of Slime Magazine (Time) and the Washington Post (which has well known CIA connections) before it even publishes its first major leak. They even go so far as to try and cut off any speculation that WeakeyLinks is a Disinformation PsyOp. Subsequently it is pumped up by various stories in the controlled media and so bypasses and surpasses, in terms of notoriety, older and more established outlets for important leaks before it has even broken any major leaks. That brings us to alleged leaker Bradley Manning - who is subsequently busted and is now being kept completely incommnicado from EVERYONE including his parents. Manning is the only person in der guffermint alleged to have made a major leak to WeakeyLinks. Now we find Assange has tiebacks to the Rothschilds and another CIA front. Tie in the group "Anonymous" which also has the apparent markings of an intelligence agency operation and you begin seeing the outpoints popping out all over the place. I think that at this point for anyone doing a rational analysis there can be little doubt left that WeakeyLinks is a PsyOp. There are simply too many outpoints to reach any other conclusions. Certainly Assange is NOT on the up and up.
If Assange were a real activist, he would not be getting any coverage from the mainstream media, let alone so headlines every day in every well known corporate media outlet. The alleged hide and seek between Assange and the US government as well as Interpol is played out on the theatrical stage of the world’s media when it is well known the US government and Interpol can arrest anyone they want virtually any time they want given their immense resources.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#66. To: randge, Freepatriot32, Artisan, esso, angK, Horse, Jethro Tull, bluegrass, noone222, Cynicom, Itistoolate, F.A. Hayek Fan, HAPPY2BME-4UM, Flintlock, X-15, Stick To Disinformation, al (#65)
Should have included you on the above ping list, but there was not enough room for everybody.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#67. To: Original_Intent (#65)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
#68. To: Original_Intent (#65)
Yes, you've no doubt seen the youtube that shows how WL's is buried in a high tech mountain bunker formerly used for Swedish national defense. Just a bit too cozy for me. I'm going to continue to watch what's published for the tenor of the information revealed. I don't think they're done yet, and I have the sense that something big may be being kept in reserve for a large propaganda move of some kind.
We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
#69. To: randge (#68)
I've been following it reasonably close for the last week or so, and, as I mentioned, the outpoints keeping popping out. One of the speculations I've read in a couple of places parallels your thought in that a release might be made which allows for the identification of a few "intelligence sources" to be made available (burned) to be "liquidated" allowing for a united chorus of "see, see, he released information that got someone killed". As a result will be a push for greater, and tighter, 'net CONTROL. That appears to be the main objective of WeakeyLinks, although there appear to be other secondary objectives such as enticing people to "leak" to WeakeyLinks so they can be identified and then shut up - "one way or another".
I'm going to continue to watch what's published for the tenor of the information revealed. I don't think they're done yet, and I have the sense that something big may be being kept in reserve for a large propaganda move of some kind.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#70. To: Original_Intent (#69)
Aye, and Madsen says that WL's is a Soros operation that will be used to crush some of his competitors. I think this was posted elsewhere here, but for those that haven't seen this -
We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
#71. To: Original_Intent (#66)
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#72. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#71)
Tease!
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
#73. To: Original_Intent, randge, Freepatriot32, Artisan, esso, angK, Horse, Jethro Tull, bluegrass, noone222, Cynicom, Itistoolate, F.A. Hayek Fan, HAPPY2BME-4UM, Flintlock, X-15, Stick To Disinformation, al (#66)
NEW YORK (AP) -- Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano says the U.S. government has not done everything it can to educate and engage the public in preventing terrorism.
Napolitano spoke Wednesday at the Council on Foreign Relations before heading to ground zero in lower Manhattan.
She said the public has been treated as a "liability to be protected," instead of an asset in maintaining the nation's security.
Americans, she says, have a role along with local law enforcement, the federal government and the international community. She urged people to prepare their families, volunteer, get free training and join local emergency response teams.
Napolitano also meets Wednesday with counterterrorism experts and law enforcers at the Staten Island Ferry Terminal. A transportation security announcement is planned at Grand Central Terminal.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/29/napolitano-public-should-be-engaged-counterterrori/
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#74. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#73)
fixed to reflect her true wishes
NEW YORK (AP) -- Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano says the U.S. government has not done everything it can to exterminate the public to prevent terrorism.
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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#75. To: GreyLmist (#0)
More Wikishit: RTE reported today that Wikileaks "revealed" that the Vatican was involved in the cover-up of child abuse. More stating the obvious:
Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr
#76. To: Original_Intent, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch* (#65)
No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)
#77. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#16)
www.republicoftheunitedst...eklyNotice-12-08-2010.mp3 It's from www.republicoftheunitedstates.org Thanks. This is the Restore America Plan and I think it should have its own thread. I've spent quite a bit of time on the mp3 and other research of the subject, and do have some disagreements (ex: the lower case spelling of "united" like it's a different Republic being formed, rather than a restoration of America's) and some concerns (ex: hundreds of dollars for IDs; ID title changes requiring reprinting, possibly with additional costs for that; problems with registration forms, inactive phone number(s), and unresponsive contacts). The more research I did, the murkier it got -- particularly regarding Sam Kennedy, Media Director (?), who was a probable infiltrator with more than one alias and has been booted. Tim Turner, President, claims to have worked for FEMA. I'm unclear whether or not there is some working association with NESARA/"Dove of Oneness" and Benjamin Fulford but would have misgivings about that. All that being said, they appear to be doing what logically should be done: seating new officials and new governors loyal to the Constitution after no governors in office took the letter seriously to affirm their allegiance to it or be replaced. You once cautioned here that "Some people refer to the RAP as TRAP, and they do not advise adding your name to the list." Since the mp3 program was aired, there have been some arrests of 3 Ulster County members reported -- apparently for sending $1.24 trillion in billing invoices and liens as a peaceful attempt to partially recover procedurally some of what has been stolen from us, etc. Sounds to me like they acted admirably and are now Political Prisoners of the foreign system that has subverted our Constitutional form of government.
If you get a chance, would you mind listening to this and tell me your impressions?
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#78. To: Eric Stratton, wudidiz (#60)
Of course they are! Most are lawyers. What do lawyers do? Seriously, think about a lawyer. He gets paid to take the same person walking into his office to either prosecute or alternately defend him/her. The same exact person a lawyer could morally do either with, notwithstanding that they specialize, ... defense/prosecution, etc., and not arguing the merits in a corrupt system there.
"Courtroom - A place where Jesus Christ and Judas Iscariot would be equals, with the betting odds favoring Judas." ~ H. L. Mencken
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
#79. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#62) (Edited)
I have to caution against the manta.com site linked there, which was also a recommended source (perhaps naively) in the Restore America Plan mp3 recording (at #16 and #77). My research showed that there is some controversy about manta being a scam linked to loan relief, also a telemarketing scam that sells company information. Just FYI.
listen to the recording in #16. Background, if you want to wade through it, is here:
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#80. To: randge (#70)
What I think is that too many people are catching on to WeakeyLinks being a PsyOp. So, in order to confuse and fog the issue we are now getting multiple trails planted. Most of the false trails will lead up blind alleys and are intended to discredit the questioning of WeakeyLinks as a legitimate operation. By planting false and disprovable lines of inquiry some people will bite on the false trails and then that can be used to make a blanket assertion that all of the trails are false. It's an old tactic, but it catches the unwary and the sheeple every time. However, like on 911, the false trails eventually get disproved and then it points back on the person who planted it. And I have to admit I do not fully trust Wayne Madsen and suspect, but cannot prove, that he is controlled opposition.
Aye, and Madsen says that WL's is a Soros operation that will be used to crush some of his competitors.
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
#81. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, All (#77) (Edited)
More arrests mentioned 4 months ago in the Comments section at the Tim Turner YouTube link: lawbeat3: "four victims of his now in jail, two more pending long sentences." Grand Juries are a reasonable counter-measure that have been suggested to indict UnConstitutional rogues in all levels of so-called officialdom. Another YouTube site recommended the posts by Libertygal at this 40+ page abovetopsecret.com thread: Provost Marshalls to Serve Notice To Governors of All 50 States Restore America, which report some suspicious business activities by an alleged RAP affiliate, Clive Boustred, that need more investigation (multiple front-companies?; CopperCards that may or may not be an offshore banking scheme falsely marketed as an alternative currency system, etc.). Americans do need an alternative currency system, so I hope he isn't working to wreck that.
Since the mp3 program was aired, there have been some arrests of 3 Ulster County members reported
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#82. To: GreyLmist (#77)
I'm struggling with a too-full computer, and decided to take a chance to see what's happening on here. I saw several replies to me from you on latest comments, and let this thread roll until I finally felt I had to stop it. Fortunately, it stopped at this reply. I really appreciate the time you took to check this out...thank you!! Now I REALLY have to wind down my windows so I can reboot and check out all you've written. Some quick comments: I've spent quite a bit of time on the mp3 and other research of the subject, and do have some disagreements (ex: the lower case spelling of "united" like it's a different Republic being formed, rather than a restoration of America's) I think what that refers to is that there are reportedly two constitutions, one from 1787, which bore the lower case, because the States were supposed to be sovereign over the federal government, which was supposed to remain, except for a few places like post offices, in its 10-square miles in Washington. When the United States became a corporation in 1871, and with the disappearance of the original 13th Amendment, and the adoption of the fraudulent 14th that made all US citizens SLAVES of the corporation, the "U" was capitalized [or was it the whole title: UNITED STATES ] to denote the change of status. Some contend the states were already subordinate under the original constitution; this just made it official. Now America is ruled by an oligarchy of lawyers and the uber-rich banksters and corporations. The subject of "corporations" is another thread. some concerns (ex: hundreds of dollars for IDs; ID title changes requiring reprinting, possibly with additional costs for that; problems with registration forms, inactive phone number(s), and unresponsive contacts). The more research I did, the murkier it got -- particularly regarding Sam Kennedy, Media Director (?), who was a probable infiltrator with more than one alias and has been booted. Tim Turner, President, claims to have worked for FEMA. I'm unclear whether or not there is some working association with NESARA/"Dove of Oneness" and Benjamin Fulford but would have misgivings about that. You've voiced some of my concerns as well. Re: the high cost for the IDs, I am told, is because the cost of the printing machine was extremely expensive and they took out a private loan that they are determined to honor. They hope the costs will come down as the republic grows. I don't know much more about the problems with the forms and contacts than you've stated, but hope they will be corrected. I know a couple of people in the repupblic, and will ask them what they know about it. I know they are spread thin, with relatively few people in the republic as compared to CorpUSA. They are in uncharted territory, still working the bugs out, Tim Turner has put a tremendous amount of his own money and time into getting it off the ground, and of course, they are in a big spiritual and economic battle with the PTBs who are not relinquishing power easily. There ARE things going on behind the scenes that I don't know if I can reveal. I hate to sound secretive; that was one of the things that bothered ME greatly about this whole thing, but I've come to understand that part of the reason is to protect some of the people [patriots] who have come onboard. Someone who is near and dear to me spent some time recently at one of the meetings with Tim. I was terrified for their safety, fearing they'd end up in a FEMA camp or worse. It wasn't like that at all. They said it was one of the most spiritually uplifting things they'd ever been to. The people were Christians, praying before and after the sessions and even during, in small groups privately, talking about the Bible and God and America, some speaking through genuine tears....they all seemed loving and humble, but to feel called to be doing what they were doing. Of course, there could always be wolves among the sheep, but at some point, I guess, we have to have a little faith. I'm sure we are in the time period when God said he'd break our yoke....He also said it wouldn't take many to do it. I, myself, am not totally sold on returning to the constitution, since all it was was a contract to bind the American people to the debt the King incurred with Rothschild funding both sides of our "revolution". One change I'd personally like to see is an Amendment to put the whole thing under the Sovereignty of Jesus Christ and the Bible, or else I don't see how anything will change for the better. I think the republic is opened up to all....maybe they're thinking they'll set it in motion, and God can later separate the wheat from the tares, or maybe with the preaching of the gospel unhindered by CorpUSA, the tares will BECOME wheat! I don't know. I do know God said we'd become a strong nation and a company of nations...apparently in that order. The states are sovereign nations in their own right [according to the supreme court I think], so I have long felt that verse [along with many, many others] belongs to us. Great Britain/The Crown thinks "company of nations" belongs to them, and that is where a lot of the problems in our world started. Anyway, if the republic goes as planned, the states will come out from the tyranny of Washington, and become a "company of nations" as most of us thought they were supposed to be. The more research I did, the murkier it got -- particularly regarding Sam Kennedy, Media Director (?), who was a probable infiltrator with more than one alias and has been booted. Tim Turner, President, claims to have worked for FEMA. I'm unclear whether or not there is some working association with NESARA/"Dove of Oneness" and Benjamin Fulford but would have misgivings about that. I know there were problems with Sam, one of which is that some people found it deceitful that he had changed his Jewish name to a Gentile one, and didn't tell anyone. I don't know much more about it all, other than that Sam still has his loyal followers [although I haven't heard anything about him in months]. I looked at a lot of Sam's stuff before he took it down, and found him to be very knowledgeable. I don't really know what the problem was, whether honest difference of opinions, egos, or what. Tim Turner DID use to work for FEMA, and that has been a big concern to me, but according he usually ended up on opposite sides of the government he was serving, and purportedly is not their friend. Tim feels he's been maligned by a lot of the people in the movement, and I think a lot of it may just be due to the confidential nature of what they're doing. They are trying to restore the republic without violent confrontation, and without a descent into chaos. They are hoping CorpUSA will just "wither on the vine" as people make an orderly transition to the republic. But the people, for their part, aren't comfortable being left in the dark on a lot of things. We've been so lied to in this country, it's hard to put our trust in what we don't feel we've been given enough information about sometimes. I'm leery of NESARA too [although I like the nesaranews blogspot for udates], "the Dove of Oneness" sounds kooky, and I don't know what to make of Benjamin Fulford. All that being said, they appear to be doing what logically should be done: seating new officials and new governors loyal to the Constitution after no governors in office took the letter seriously to affirm their allegiance to it or be replaced. You once cautioned here that "Some people refer to the RAP as TRAP, and they do not advise adding your name to the list." Since the mp3 program was aired, there have been some arrests of 3 Ulster County members reported -- apparently for sending $1.24 trillion in billing invoices and liens as a peaceful attempt to partially recover procedurally some of what has been stolen from us, etc. Sounds to me like they acted admirably and are now Political Prisoners of the foreign system that has subverted our Constitutional form of government. I guess I still harbor a little doubt about it all, but I'm leaning toward taking the plunge into the republic shortly; if I had the money I'd buy the ID's...particularly with all the b.s. that's coming out of DC. We are called to come out and be separate; what's going on there in DC is unGodly....CorpUSA has joined the devil banksters to destroy Christian America, and starve us into submission. I was thinking my own devilish thoughts a minute ago, like doing all the republic paperwork, giving CorpUSA notice, and if they still step over the line to steal from me and mine, bury them in the back 40. [half kidding :} ]. The story on the arrests of the Ulster County members seemed to ring a bell. I can't pull the story up at the moment, but the title "three stooges star ulster county extortion" I seem to remember showing up on the SPLC and/or the ADL website. They are the secret police for the banksters, and they are at war with Christian America....what else should we expect. Those arrests aren't the first and I doubt if they'll be the last in this particular movement to free this country from the banksters [Habakkuk 2, Micah 4:13, etc.]. I'm anxious to read all about it, and the rest of your posts when I get rid of some windows. Thanks again.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
#83. To: GreyLmist (#0)
The torture Levin experiences is hidden by nature of military grade Directed Energy technology used on targets and their property. This form of torture is also hidden by mainstream media, another indication that corporate owned media no longer serves best interest of the public. [see also us-government-torture.com re: RFID chips implanted in the brain] I had forgotten what this thread was about, and just re-read it quickly, and am glad I did. It just reminded me to reinforce to myself that this is supposed to be a nonviolent return to lawful government, and I should probably not be fantasizing about "burying government thugs in the back 40". [I have no plans to start a violent revolution, but neither am I going to rule out becoming violent when they are in total dishonor of their contracts, and when I am backed into a corner and forced to defend myself and family or die]. The other reason I'm glad I re-read it, is because I was trying to remember where this was a couple of days ago when PBS put on a British show that I came into part-way through, about a mentally disturbed guy who commandeered his psychiatrist's office and held several people hostage. Long story short, it was a comedy, and toward the end, they all ended up near a cliff where a young man had fallen over. Suddenly the disturbed guy started saying the injured man [who was convulsing due to the injury to his brain], had a chip in his brain that was controlling all of them and that the psychiatrist had to go down and take it out. I thought that was some kind of convenient timing, coming so close on the heels of this author's warning, serving to tarnish anyone who believed in such stuff with the insanity brush. I believe this PBS show was hosted on WETA, and if I'm not mistaken, that Nina Totenberg post recently, wherein she said "please excuse the expression...Christmas party...." had part of the WETA logo in the corner. PBS was at one time [I don't know if it still is] under the leadership of Jay Rockefeller's wife. Thought I'd pass that tidbit along.
Levin is now one of thousands of Targeted Individuals in the United States, battling to survive both a hidden form of CIA torture he knows to be part of the CIA Torture Paradigm inflicting citizens in U.S. neighborhoods plus ongoing Cointelpro tactics used in conjunction with the torure. The combined effect is to ruin lives and even assassinate.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
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