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Title: Madoff's Son Dead
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According to the ino ticker blurb, Bernie's kid offed himself in his NYC apartment.


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#24. To: Shoonra (#2)

(2) He leaves behind a small son

That's too bad.

Well at least there's one innocent person in the story.

A Paul for President!
Whites need to be shown darkie won't vote for him.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-12-11   14:07:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Prefrontal Vortex, Shoonra (#24)

(2) He leaves behind a small son That's too bad.

Well at least there's one innocent person in the story.

Yeah, Shoonra omitted the fact that Daddy hung himself while junior was cruising around the apartment....some hero.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-12-11   15:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: abraxas (#25)

He leaves behind a small son That's too bad.

I understand that he hanged himself on a dog's leash leaving his two-year-old son alone in the apartment.

There's a corrupt and repulsive smell that attends all the activities of this clan and their brethren. Every story that appears about them is more odious than the one before.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-12-11   16:10:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#8)

The New York Slimes of Walter Duranty fame????

They still cling to that Pulitzer Prize with a death-grip, they'll never give it back no matter how much shame is heaped upon him and the Olde York Times.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-12-11   16:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: randge (#26)

There's a corrupt and repulsive smell that attends all the activities of this clan and their brethren

It harks back to the olde days of the evil of Loeb and Leopold, the first worldwide exposure of the Jews that they could not contain.

The world saw them for the sick tribe they were and remain.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-11   18:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#28)

Is it that more and more are seeing who the joos really are? With all the activity on this forum on threads that address the behavior of joos, it is either more are becoming aware or those of us who always have known are making more noise.

Which do you think it is?

Phant2000  posted on  2010-12-11   18:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Phant2000 (#29)

it is either more are becoming aware or those of us who always have known are making more noise.

Which do you think it is? it is either more are becoming aware or those of us who always have known are making more noise.

Which do you think it is?

The latter.

Think about it.

Over the past ten years, you and I have been thrown OUT of many chat rooms and forums because we insisted on shining the light of decency on the hiding Jews.

Freakville was open and free until the Jews took over and everyone with a differing opinion, or unacceptable opinion, were thrown out.

Every open option eventually became controlled by Jews.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-11   18:36:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#30)

"Never give a sucker (gentile) an even break" - the desert-dwellers-with- stolen-internet-connections

__________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-12-11   18:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#30)

The latter.

Then you think our "noise" is getting somewhere????

Phant2000  posted on  2010-12-11   19:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: abraxas, Shoonra (#25)

Yeah, Shoonra omitted the fact that Daddy hung himself while junior was cruising around the apartment....some hero.

I suspect that somebody may have "helped" Daddy hang himself and figured the kid was too little to be a witness and so spared him.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-11   19:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Original_Intent (#33)

I suspect that somebody may have "helped" Daddy hang himself

Why do you suspect that?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-12-11   20:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#33)

I'll go with that.

Lod  posted on  2010-12-11   21:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent (#33)

I suspect that somebody may have "helped" Daddy hang himself

Agreed.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-11   21:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent (#33)

I suspect that somebody may have "helped" Daddy hang himself

As always, pure BS about your suspicions.

Mark Madoff used his dog's leash attached with a choke chain all by himself. He got something right after-all.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2010-12-11   21:29:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom, Lod, Original_Intent (#36)

I suspect that somebody may have "helped" Daddy hang himself

Agreed.

Why? The guy began to fall in the chasm of depression and despair after ratting out daddy two years ago to the day he decides to check out. Seems to be some truth to the old adage of sins of the father. Bernie's boy was hit with a lawsuit going after his assets as well as the assets of his wife, ex- wife and his children, thus extending the sins of the father down two generations.

Seems to me that guilt, shame, embarrassment, depression, alienation, loss of self-respect and self-worth all constitute a fair amount of evidence to the contrary in regards to help in hanging himself. Powerful list of motivators right there.

Who do you think "helped" him hang himself and for what motive?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-12-11   21:42:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeroo (#37)

I don't mind agreeing with you on this one bucky.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-12-11   21:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: abraxas (#38)

Bernie's boy was hit with a lawsuit going after his assets as well as the assets of his wife, ex- wife and his children, thus extending the sins of the father down two generations.

Mark had over $500 Million in personal assets ALL acquired from his work with his daddy. He also had over 100 lawsuits filed against him to acquire those same assets.

His wife and kids changed their last names because of the notoriety.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2010-12-11   21:49:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Fred Mertz (#39)

I have to correct OI all the time. He has a self-made fantasy wherein his own delusions either are or become reality. I think there is a psychological term for that human phenomena but I don't want to mention it right now.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2010-12-11   21:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: abraxas (#34)

I suspect that somebody may have "helped" Daddy hang himself

Why do you suspect that?

This is speculation, and clearly labeled as such.

Mr. Madoff was a "loose end", and it appears from some of the evidence, indirect and speculatative, that his father, Bernard Madoff, was working for Israel. His sons may, or may not, have known that.

He was under increasing pressure from lawsuits stemming from the criminality his father went to prison for.

As such he was a "lightning rod" bringing constant attention to the case and keeping it in the news. As such he was creating negative Public Relations, and continued interest in the case, just by continuing to breathe.

His wife had already filed in court for a name change for her and the kids because of the adverse publicity.

The manner of his suicide is just a bit odd. While he could well have gotten despondent and taken his own life generally when somebody like this commits suicide it is at least somewhat planned out and they don't use a "dog leash" to hang themselves. In fact men, statistically, are much more likely to use a gun, just as women are more likely to use poison.

So, the speculation runs something like this: He had become inconvenient to the people his father answered to and they decided to eliminate the inconvenience and the publicity, speculation, and continued investigation that went with it.

With his death the lawsuits against him personally become moot, and go away. After a little flurry of news coverage about his unfortunate "suicide" the case disappears from the news. Much like the late Deborah Jean Palfrey, a.k.a. "The D.C. Madam", who committed suicide in her mother's garage with an electrical cord - hanging herself of course. Clean up on aisle 3 complete.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-11   21:53:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: abraxas (#34)

I suspect that somebody may have "helped" Daddy hang himself

Why do you suspect that?

Where billions are involved, one may safely make the most cynical assumptions. In addition, these are all sociopathically selfish persons with the normal, healthy survival instincts intact. Such people are not prone to suicide.

Just my guess here. Something usually stinks is my experience.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

randge  posted on  2010-12-11   21:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: abraxas, Cynicom, Lod (#38)

Who do you think "helped" him hang himself and for what motive?

As detailed above in my speculation - he was an embarrassing loose end that needed to be "tidied up". I am not saying that he did not actually commit suicide, it is well within the realm of possibility that, that is exactly what happened. I am just suggesting that there were people, powerful people, who had sufficient motivation to see that he was in no position to talk and ceased to draw attention to the case.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-11   21:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Original_Intent, abraxas (#42)

I suspect that somebody may have "helped" Daddy hang himself

Why do you suspect that?

The olde man took the fall, hoping that would be the end of the criminal probe. That did not work.

Surely no one can think the son took his own life because of embarrassment, the heat was becoming to hot, so he took this way out, with or without encouragement.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-11   22:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Original_Intent (#42)

men, statistically, are much more likely to use a gun

it is at least somewhat planned out

With his death the lawsuits against him personally become moot, and go away.

That would have upset the toddler in the house. Daddy was showing concern by making a quiet exit with a dog collar. This took some planning.

You say it wasn't planned out, but the suicide fell on the anniversary of the day sonny turned daddy in for his ponzi scheme. The wife was conveniently out of state with the four year old to mitigate the fall out to a small extent. He sent her an e-mail to ensure the two year old wasn't alone in the house with daddy hanging from the dog collar for too long........that's quite a bit of planning.

The lawsuits will not go away as the assets are still there and not only was Sonny named but also his wife, ex wife and children. So, now the wife, ex-wife and children will go through the courts without him.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-12-11   22:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Original_Intent (#42)

He could have been facing forclosure too.........

An article from 2009 states: Mark Madoff, who earned as much as $5 million annually, married Stephanie, his second wife, in a million-dollar-plus wedding on Nantucket in 2003. The couple later paid $6.5 million for a 3.3-acre spread and McMansion on the island.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/item_VuqGUZQg3ikFJUJRdEY7DK#ixzz17r cmSlYi

He paid top dollar at the top end of the market. Plus, he no longer makes $5 million annually........what he does make the courts wanted to take.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-12-11   22:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: abraxas (#47)

And all of what you say is true. However, that does not nail it down. Yes, it provides possible motivation. I am not denying that. However, his death is a great convenience for people other than his family - people with things to hide.

So, all I am speculating is that while it could have been suicide it might not have been either. I know Bing Crosby's son drank his way through millions left him by his mother and then when he faced the prospect of actually having to work, because Bing tied his money up until the boys hit 65 so that they WOULD have to earn a living, he blew his brains out at 42.

No, the problem I have with it is that there are too many hints and suggestions that ol' Bernie Madoff was laundering and funneling money to Israel, and that has been lingering in the background. With Junior out of the way then he no longer acts as a lightening rod. I don't have the data to say it was either way - suicide or "suicided". However, the question remains open in my mind.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-11   22:35:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Original_Intent (#48)

With Junior out of the way then he no longer acts as a lightening rod.

There is another son, Andrew, who worked for Bernie.

Andrew is in the news just as much, if not more, than Mark was. He went through a public divorce, was attacked physically by his dad's ponzi victims, faces criminal charges for investment fraud as well as a slew of lawsuits to take his assets.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-12-11   22:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Original_Intent (#48)

Suicide from an overhead pipe.

Is there anywhere the mention of a chair, box, or are we to believe it was by strangulation, not hanging?

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-11   22:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Original_Intent (#48)

No, the problem I have with it is that there are too many hints and suggestions that ol' Bernie Madoff was laundering and funneling money to Israel, and that has been lingering in the background.

ROTFL ... you are so lame.

Most of Madoff's victims were Jews. Many from Israel. Some lived right next door to him in Florida and many of his other homes.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2010-12-11   22:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Original_Intent (#48)

Substitute your Internet handle, OI for NEPHY in the above song... and you have my opinion of you.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2010-12-11   23:13:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Cynicom, Phant2000 (#30)

Which do you think it is?

i think it is both. the internet has greatly contributed to the zionist jews undoing. people are learning a lot about them. many 9/11 truthers ive known over the years end up concluding that the jews are behind it. very few of them began their quest focused on jews but it invariably leads them there.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-12-12   0:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: abraxas (#49)

Well, we'll see if Andrew has an "accident". Data is still insufficient. I stand by my speculation and that is what it is and clearly labeled - a speculation with not even enough evidence to call it a suspicion. Like I said it is entirely possible that he really did commit suicide, but I simply, in a convoluted case such as this, will not rule out "assisted suicide". I don't have the inside info so I don't know. I can see how someone seeing their life crashing in ruins could become despondent enough to take the coward's way out. I can also see that it is possible that he was in possession of information someone else might have been concerned he would disclose. I draw no firm and final conclusion.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-12   1:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Cynicom (#50)

Suicide from an overhead pipe.

Is there anywhere the mention of a chair, box, or are we to believe it was by strangulation, not hanging?

That was what I was wondering - what was observed at the scene, and whether there was anything no matter how small that was inconsistent with a suicide that might suggest "assisted suicide". It would be interesting to see a toxicology report.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-12   2:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Artisan (#53)

the internet has greatly contributed to the zionist jews undoing. people are learning a lot about them.

Let's hope that can continue. Like so much of their past work, the zionists are working overtime to keep ALL truth from us, even on the internet.

Phant2000  posted on  2010-12-12   7:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Phant2000 (#56)

I often wonder, who the Founding Fathers had in mind when they warned us of this country falling from WITHIN????

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-12   7:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Cynicom (#57)

... who the Founding Fathers had in mind when they warned us of this country falling from WITHIN????

It may have been as simple as paying attention to human behavior.

Phant2000  posted on  2010-12-12   8:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Original_Intent (#42)

The manner of his suicide is just a bit odd. While he could well have gotten despondent and taken his own life generally when somebody like this commits suicide it is at least somewhat planned out and they don't use a "dog leash" to hang themselves.

Add me to the kook list.

There's probably some occult significance to that.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-12-12   12:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, 4 (#59)

The manner of his suicide is just a bit odd. While he could well have gotten despondent and taken his own life generally when somebody like this commits suicide it is at least somewhat planned out and they don't use a "dog leash" to hang themselves.

Add me to the kook list.

DC Madame and one of her girls, bump.

Lod  posted on  2010-12-12   13:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, abraxas, Cynicom (#59) (Edited)

It is also interesting to look back at the beginning of this mess - his sons turned him in. That is an interesting datum and implies that it was a planned action, because with them turning him in, when the boom was about to be lowered, provided them with legal cover. Thus it could be said that they were not willing and knowing participants in the sins of the father.

This entire case has been interesting from the point of view of someone watching and observing the machinations involved and what it reveals about the inner workings of the shadows.

A good lid has been kept on it from the beginning so we're left trying to ferret out the reality based on the penumbra surrounding the admitted and observed events. There have been just enough inconsistencies to give a slight image in the vapor, but not enough to nail down the full picture.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-12   14:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Lod, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, all (#60)

DC Madame and one of her girls, bump.

Isn't it interesting that her big box of records, kept for life insurance, completely vanished the day Ms. Palfrey committed "suicide"?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-12   14:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Original_Intent (#62)

AJ told her to make copies and distribute her lists of johns.

But did she listen? Noooooo.

She was killed with the week.

Lod  posted on  2010-12-12   14:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Lod (#63)

Yes, the day she was killed she was moving out of her Florida Apartment to her mother's house. The manager said she commented on one box that it was her "insurance policy" - the same box that disappeared later that day when she "committed suicide".

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-12   14:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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