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Title: Madoff's Son Dead
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URL Source: http://ino.com
Published: Dec 11, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-12-11 09:43:17 by Lod
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Views: 954
Comments: 64

According to the ino ticker blurb, Bernie's kid offed himself in his NYC apartment.


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Always good to see criminals take justice upon themselves.

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#2. To: Lod (#0)

(1) Mark Madoff was unaware of his father's scam until he confronted his father about some questionable business decisions, at which point he learned about - and caused to be revealed - his father's Ponzi swindle. So Mark is actually something of a hero in this story. (2) He leaves behind a small son, also a grown brother. (3) He was recently hit with enormous lawsuits from victims of his father's swindle. He may well have felt a great deal of personal guilt and shame over this affair, and over his inability to make up everyone's losses.

See, for example, www.nytimes.com/2010/12/1...s/12madoff.html?src=busln

Shoonra  posted on  2010-12-11   11:12:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Shoonra (#2)

(2) He leaves behind a small son

That's too bad.

Well at least there's one innocent person in the story.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2010-12-11   14:07:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Prefrontal Vortex, Shoonra (#24)

(2) He leaves behind a small son That's too bad.

Well at least there's one innocent person in the story.

Yeah, Shoonra omitted the fact that Daddy hung himself while junior was cruising around the apartment....some hero.

abraxas  posted on  2010-12-11   15:39:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: abraxas, Shoonra (#25)

Yeah, Shoonra omitted the fact that Daddy hung himself while junior was cruising around the apartment....some hero.

I suspect that somebody may have "helped" Daddy hang himself and figured the kid was too little to be a witness and so spared him.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-11   19:43:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Original_Intent (#33)

I suspect that somebody may have "helped" Daddy hang himself

Why do you suspect that?

abraxas  posted on  2010-12-11   20:57:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: abraxas (#34)

I suspect that somebody may have "helped" Daddy hang himself

Why do you suspect that?

This is speculation, and clearly labeled as such.

Mr. Madoff was a "loose end", and it appears from some of the evidence, indirect and speculatative, that his father, Bernard Madoff, was working for Israel. His sons may, or may not, have known that.

He was under increasing pressure from lawsuits stemming from the criminality his father went to prison for.

As such he was a "lightning rod" bringing constant attention to the case and keeping it in the news. As such he was creating negative Public Relations, and continued interest in the case, just by continuing to breathe.

His wife had already filed in court for a name change for her and the kids because of the adverse publicity.

The manner of his suicide is just a bit odd. While he could well have gotten despondent and taken his own life generally when somebody like this commits suicide it is at least somewhat planned out and they don't use a "dog leash" to hang themselves. In fact men, statistically, are much more likely to use a gun, just as women are more likely to use poison.

So, the speculation runs something like this: He had become inconvenient to the people his father answered to and they decided to eliminate the inconvenience and the publicity, speculation, and continued investigation that went with it.

With his death the lawsuits against him personally become moot, and go away. After a little flurry of news coverage about his unfortunate "suicide" the case disappears from the news. Much like the late Deborah Jean Palfrey, a.k.a. "The D.C. Madam", who committed suicide in her mother's garage with an electrical cord - hanging herself of course. Clean up on aisle 3 complete.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-11   21:53:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Original_Intent (#42)

The manner of his suicide is just a bit odd. While he could well have gotten despondent and taken his own life generally when somebody like this commits suicide it is at least somewhat planned out and they don't use a "dog leash" to hang themselves.

Add me to the kook list.

There's probably some occult significance to that.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-12-12   12:40:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#60. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, 4 (#59)

The manner of his suicide is just a bit odd. While he could well have gotten despondent and taken his own life generally when somebody like this commits suicide it is at least somewhat planned out and they don't use a "dog leash" to hang themselves.

Add me to the kook list.

DC Madame and one of her girls, bump.

Lod  posted on  2010-12-12 13:12:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, abraxas, Cynicom (#59) (Edited)

It is also interesting to look back at the beginning of this mess - his sons turned him in. That is an interesting datum and implies that it was a planned action, because with them turning him in, when the boom was about to be lowered, provided them with legal cover. Thus it could be said that they were not willing and knowing participants in the sins of the father.

This entire case has been interesting from the point of view of someone watching and observing the machinations involved and what it reveals about the inner workings of the shadows.

A good lid has been kept on it from the beginning so we're left trying to ferret out the reality based on the penumbra surrounding the admitted and observed events. There have been just enough inconsistencies to give a slight image in the vapor, but not enough to nail down the full picture.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-12 14:10:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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