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Title: Mexico will cause the collapse of America !!!! Glenn Beck
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Published: Dec 14, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-12-14 12:34:16 by Horse
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#1. To: Horse (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-14   12:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eric Stratton (#1)

Glenn Dreck is false opposition.

I am guessing that he's being pumped up to divert from the failed WeakeyLinks PsyOp. Too many people are recognizing that WeakeyLinks is an Intelligence Agency Operation with carefully selected material - aimed at creating the maximum amount of smoke with the minimum amount of fire.

So, the elites and minions need a diversion to direct attention away from the failed PsyOp.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   12:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-14   12:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Eric Stratton (#3)

Well television news watchers conform nicely to the following:

The amount of real thought an individual engages in is inversely proportional to the amount of television they watch.

Anyone who tunes in to Glenn Dreck expecting truthful information without a hidden slant and/or purpose is quite simply a sucker.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   13:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#2)

Glenn Dreck is false opposition.

I am guessing that he's being pumped up to divert from the failed WeakeyLinks PsyOp. Too many people are recognizing that WeakeyLinks is an Intelligence Agency Operation with carefully selected material - aimed at creating the maximum amount of smoke with the minimum amount of fire.

I have seen you politically attack Glenn Beck. I have seen you politically attack Wikileaks.

But, I have not seen you attack, or try to refute, what those two groups have stated.

All you do is attack the messengers.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-14   13:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#4)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-14   13:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PaulCJ, Original_Intent (#5)

But, I have not seen you attack, or try to refute, what those two groups have stated.

Beck and Rush have done more to wake people up than anybody. Do they give you the whole story? Usually not. Do they stick to the party line on 911,Iraq & Afghanistan......yep

But they talk about other stuff that's important and lately, Beck is sounding a lot like Alex Jones.

This is all good. People wake up in stages and when they want to know the whole story and truth, they'll find it.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-12-14   14:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: PaulCJ (#5) (Edited)

I have seen you politically attack Glenn Beck. I have seen you politically attack Wikileaks.

But, I have not seen you attack, or try to refute, what those two groups have stated.

All you do is attack the messengers.

Then you have not read much of what I've written or commented on.

However, one of my interests is Psychological manipulation of the society and culture (by the way I've written a lot on archaeology threads another of my interests). Glenn Dreck and WeakeyLinks are two manifestations of that. There are several good websites that actually do publish legitimate leaks and revelations - Rense, What Really Happened, Cryptome, The Black Vault, and others more speculative but often on the mark such as Abovetopsecret.

However, I find disinformation and covert manipulation particularly invidious, and seek them out to dissect and to point out where they lie.

Do you deny that Glenn Dreck is a NeoCon Disinformation Source?

And if so why?

Do you deny that WeakeyLinks is another source of PsyOperations?

And if so why?

My objective, other than to express my disgust at the manipulations, is to encourage people to look, think, and not be taken in. To recognize that we as a society ARE under massive assault by a variety of manipulative means to distort, guide, and eventually subjugate through manipulation.

What we are experiencing in this time in place is a rather disgusting mix of "1984" and "Brave New World".

You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   14:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Flintlock (#7)

Do they give you the whole story?

No one does. People do not talk about their entire lives, do not give the full story about everything they know. That is part of human nature.

I am glad we can agree that Beck and Rush have been more a benefit for the people than a hazard.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-14   14:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Flintlock, PaulCJ, Eric Stratton (#7)

My suggestion would be that simply they do not dare lie all of the time else it becomes obvious.

Dreck and Slimebaugh will tell the truth on some issues, but it is only to set up the disinformation. A good disinformationist will tell the truth most of the time so that when they wish to plant a piece of disinformation into the mix it will be accepted.

Limbaugh is probably the best at it, and he told mostly the truth for years. The real change began taking place in 1998 with the beginnings of the first rumblings of the run of Bush the Lesser for the Preznitcy. Although I had caught him in at least one well presented piece of disinformation prior.

Rush is particularly good because one of his specialties is taking a set of facts that point in one direction and then spinning the conclusion off to a less damaging, false, plausible alternative conclusion.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   14:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#8)

Then you have not read much of what I've written or commented on.

I have. You talk about "psy-ops". But it is likely it is the articles that you posts that are the "psy-ops"

A "psy-op" is at two levels. At the top level, it is makes statements for or against something, without offering anything constructive to that goal. In a nutshell, it is lip service.

At the lower level, it pushes through a hidden agenda.

Now, the articles you have posted does not question what Wikileaks claims against various nations. Instead, all the articles do is attack the messenger. That is a red flag right there for a psy-op.

Note, I am not politically attacking you the messenger. I am questioning the articles you post.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-14   14:18:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Horse (#0)

The problem with Glenn Beck is that he presents "nuggets" in all of his shows about the collapse of America. I only see his "stuff" on Youtube but he has lost any favorable opinion I have of him, his writing and producing staff and FOXTV. Today, it "Mexico"; yesterday it was 0bama; last week it was ACORN; last year it was Soros, etc. etc. etc.

Beck cries WOLF far too often to be of any REAL value to most people other than entertainment.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2010-12-14   14:21:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PaulCJ (#9)

I am glad we can agree that Beck and Rush have been more a benefit for the people

These guys that benefit you are feeding you a well controlled package.They have writers and scripts.They are con-men drug/alcohol abusers that rant a good rant to you,and sadly many others.This partisan mantra is classic divide and conquer,brought to you by their masters,the zionist.Exactly how does that benefit you,or anyone else? Of course,everyone's entitled to Rush and Beck's opinion,or Keith Olberman for that matter,as it is entertainment,and should not be swallowed on an empty stomach.

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-12-14   14:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PaulCJ, Flintlock, Eric Stratton, all (#11)

I have. You talk about "psy-ops". But it is likely it is the articles that you posts that are the "psy-ops"

Any argument or analysis stands on its own. It is either logically valid and comports with the known facts or it does not.

Now, the articles you have posted does not question what Wikileaks claims against various nations. Instead, all the articles do is attack the messenger. That is a red flag right there for a psy-op.

What you are missing is what is missing in the WeakeyLinks data dump, and it has to be taken in its entirely. I have not formed my opinion or conclusion based on "1" article or "1" source.

This particular PsyOp, Wikileaks, is better constructed than most and so requires a little closer scrutiny to begin ferreting out what is actually being done.

The overall penumbra is that it tends to reinforce already in place memes such as:

Osama Ben Dead since Dec. 2001 is still alive. Gotta keep the bogeyman active.

Assange's comments on 911 support the existing government fairy tale.

The overall tenor of the releases support the call to more pointless wars against Israel's geopolitical rivals.

The leaks were vetted, and redacted, through the controlled major media such as The Guardian, and The New York Times. I posted an article yesterday analyzing the Times' spin on the releases - as well as their admitted censorship in concert with the U.S. Feral Government.

There is NOTHING in ANY of what has been released by WeakeyLinks that is particularly damaging. Embarassing for some foreign leaders and a few lower level diplomats but nothing of any significance in regard to the higher levels in the U.S. power structure. There are no stunning revelations, nor anything which reveals what is going on at the higher levels of the government. There are implications but nothing solid.

Also missing is virtually any reference to Israel. An example of omitted data. I won't spend a lot of time on this but it is known that Assange did meet with the Israelis prior to the data dump.

Additionally are Assanges links to known fronts for intelligence operations and his being raised in what appears to have been an MK-Ultra derivative group.

An analysis must include the plus points and the out points, and once you start cataloging them the outpoints mount very quickly.

I'm not particularly inclined to spend a lot of time doing a major analysis which would take hours to write. I am pointing out some of the outpoints and suggesting people look, analyze, and conclude based on the picture painted by ALL the facts.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   14:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#14)

Any argument or analysis stands on its own. It is either logically valid and comports with the known facts or it does not.

Which is exactly the point I am making. The articles you post lack argument and analysis and rely on accusations.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-14   14:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: paddlefeet (#13)

These guys that benefit you are feeding you a well controlled package.They have writers and scripts.

It is called proofreading and a schedule on what they talk about.

Mr. Beck uses math to back up his statements.

Of course there are controlled packages here that DEMAND people not accept ANYTHING that is stated. Which amounts to, "bury your head in the sand, and attack everything."

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-14   14:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: PaulCJ (#15)

For instance?

I've posted a lot of analysis on the WeakeyLinks PsyOp and if you choose to accept the unsupported and superficial analyses of the Lamestream media that is your choice. I can't force you to think and look beyond surface appearances.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   14:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: PaulCJ, paddlefeet (#16)

Of course there are controlled packages here that DEMAND people not accept ANYTHING that is stated. Which amounts to, "bury your head in the sand, and attack everything."

It depends upon your point of view. Critical analysis is not an attack, but where it points out weak links in reasoning it is useful. An attack would be to do like some posters, who shall remain unnamed, who either attack a person individually or accept uncritically what they are told they think.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   15:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: PaulCJ (#16)

Mr. Beck uses math to back up his statements.

Please tell me how Beck's math concluded 10% of all muslims are terrorist? How does he equate,oh I forgot chaos theory.

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-12-14   16:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: paddlefeet (#19)

Math on the economy, math on the U.S. federal budget.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-14   16:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Horse (#0) (Edited)

Glen Beck is a stupid Jewish toady. The only people that are causing the collapse of America right now are the Jews and their idiot toadies.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-12-14   16:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: PaulCJ (#20)

Math on the economy, math on the U.S. federal budget

You stated he has benefitted you and this nation,my concern is this man told his listeners that 10% of ALL muslims are terrorists,that kind of garbage stirs hatred among the throngs that swallowed the Osama Bin Laden did the attacks of 9/11. The sheeple are easily led,Beck and any other partisan hacks are dangerous when they have the controlled media backing them.The 'liberal left' (zionist jew controlled) and the 'radical right' (zionist jew controlled) CNN,ABC,CBS,FOX,NBC go into any one of their board rooms and ask a show of hands for all the muslims in the room...repeat at all those news board rooms...Mr Beck,coincidently jewish,and you paul..do the math!

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-12-14   16:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: paddlefeet (#22)

You stated he has benefitted you and this nation,my concern is this man told his listeners that 10% of ALL muslims are terrorists,that kind of garbage stirs hatred among the throngs that swallowed the Osama Bin Laden did the attacks of 9/11.

When a muslim is offended, they almost always cry out of the blood of those they take offense against. This give credence to Beck's statement.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-14   16:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: PaulCJ (#23)

When a muslim is offended, they almost always cry out of the blood of those they take offense against. This give credence to Beck's statement.

Really? please tell me at what level of offense would a muslim require blood letting? as your credence is slipping away.

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-12-14   17:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: paddlefeet (#24)

please tell me at what level of offense would a muslim require blood letting?

Off hand comments, to political cartoons.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-14   17:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent (#10)

Limbaugh & Beck www.moviewavs.com/php/sou...x04.txt&file=matrix04.wav

I'll repeat myself

Nobody has done more good to help awaken the sheeple than Limbaugh and Beck. People wake up in stages, anything that quickens that awakening is good. People who listen to those show are pissed and supported & voted for TeaParty candidates, that's good.

People who listen to those shows know there's something wrong with the world and are looking for answers. That's good.

Sooner or later most listeners will figure out they're not getting the whole story i.e. 911 and look for it elsewhere and the truth will find them.

And that's good.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-12-14   18:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Flintlock (#26) (Edited)

I'll repeat myself

Nobody has done more good to help awaken the sheeple than Limbaugh and Beck. People wake up in stages, anything that quickens that awakening is good. People who listen to those show are pissed and supported & voted for TeaParty candidates, that's good.

To some extent I agree. I was a regular listener to the Mahajunkie for several years, and it did open my eyes a bit more. Much of it I had already thought of on my own but it was nice to hear some of it coming from a big megaphone. Eventually I grew beyond the limitations as my own knowledge and awareness grew. Although I would stop short of lauding them too much as some of what they push is flat false. The perceptive wake up and the rest become Dildoeheads.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   19:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: PaulCJ (#25) (Edited)

Off hand comments, to political cartoons

Off hand comments? expound a little,please. political cartoons? I have seen many political cartoons,but to think about killing or maiming the author,because you were offended by the content is unrealistic.If you said religious cartoons then thats another story,then you attack the inner soul of a human.We in this country,being civilized would not revert to violence in a cartoon of that nature,but if I were to attack a cow in India,make Mohammed out a fool,or worse,if I bashed a statue of Budda,point being these are mostly third world populations and for us to steal their resources then to stomp on a likeness of their deity,is a bit much.

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-12-14   19:29:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: paddlefeet (#28)

I have seen many political cartoons,but to think about killing or maiming the author,because you were offended by the content is unrealistic

Sweden's first car bombing, in history, last week was by muslims, and about a political cartoonist that poked fun at islam.

Several months ago there were protests all over the world from muslims literally calling for that cartoonist's head.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-14   19:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: PaulCJ (#29)

last week was by muslims

gee,isn't odd his girlfriend was jewish? another false flag,just like all the rest,dazzle them with smoke and mirrors.The 'underwear bomber' when confronted by the passengers was acting incoherrent,he wasn't struggling,he wasn't shouting Allah,he was dazed,as one passenger stated.The guy had no passport,and was helped/guided to the plane by a man in a suit.You cannot get on a plane in Europe without a passport,how did he?

paddlefeet  posted on  2010-12-14   20:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#8)

My objective, other than to express my disgust at the manipulations, is to encourage people to look, think, and not be taken in. To recognize that we as a society ARE under massive assault by a variety of manipulative means to distort, guide, and eventually subjugate through manipulation.

ANCIENT TIBETAN SAYING: If you are too clever, you could miss the point entirely.

Among the many manipulations and distortions, a "tool" could be used to tell the truth in such a way, that it would never be believed. I encourage you to get out of your comfort zone and look, think, and not be taken in.

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2010-12-14   20:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: angK (#31)

Among the many manipulations and distortions, a "tool" could be used to tell the truth in such a way, that it would never be believed. I encourage you to get out of your comfort zone and look, think, and not be taken in.

Oh, I agree. One of the most effective ways to lie is to tell the truth so unconvincingly people think you are lying.

However, I've been looking at WeakeyLinks from a lot of different angles. At first I wasn't sure of it, and thought even that it might be on the "up and up" with the release of the helicopter footage. However, I suspect now that, that was simply to cement the cover legend and establish "credibility".

I won't even argue that much of what has been released this time is not true. A good disinformation source will tell the truth most of the time.

As well one can tell the truth, but not all of the truth (as appears to be a large part of WeakeyLinks) and thus create a false image. For example that an attack on Iran is both justified and popular.

I will not say I am 100% that WeakeyLinks is a disinformation and/or false trail outlet, but I am about 98% sure that it is disinformation.

There are simply too many outpoints that point in the direction of it being an Intelligence Agency false front.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   21:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Original_Intent (#32)

I will not say I am 100% that WeakeyLinks is a disinformation and/or false trail outlet, but I am about 98% sure that it is disinformation.

Is that bias more towards 99% or is that same bias towards 97%?

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2010-12-14   21:16:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeroo (#33)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   21:35:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#27)

To some extent I agree. I was a regular listener to the Mahajunkie for several years, and it did open my eyes a bit more.

So it was Rush that helped lead you to the path that eventually led to this forum.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-12-14   21:39:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent (#34)

Your personal lack of conviction to be accurate and precise of and about your own certainty about the matter is PROOF positive that you cannot make further claim one way or another.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2010-12-14   21:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent (#34)

LOL,

I love your replies to B.

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2010-12-14   21:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: angK (#37)

Comic relief.

You can't be serious all the time, and it is easier to be not serious with some. ;-)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   22:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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