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Title: Mexico will cause the collapse of America !!!! Glenn Beck
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4It9_m9ftb4
Published: Dec 14, 2010
Author: Glenn Beck
Post Date: 2010-12-14 12:34:16 by Horse
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#1. To: Horse (#0)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-14   12:43:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eric Stratton (#1)

Glenn Dreck is false opposition.

I am guessing that he's being pumped up to divert from the failed WeakeyLinks PsyOp. Too many people are recognizing that WeakeyLinks is an Intelligence Agency Operation with carefully selected material - aimed at creating the maximum amount of smoke with the minimum amount of fire.

So, the elites and minions need a diversion to direct attention away from the failed PsyOp.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   12:51:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#2)

Glenn Dreck is false opposition.

I am guessing that he's being pumped up to divert from the failed WeakeyLinks PsyOp. Too many people are recognizing that WeakeyLinks is an Intelligence Agency Operation with carefully selected material - aimed at creating the maximum amount of smoke with the minimum amount of fire.

I have seen you politically attack Glenn Beck. I have seen you politically attack Wikileaks.

But, I have not seen you attack, or try to refute, what those two groups have stated.

All you do is attack the messengers.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-14   13:43:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: PaulCJ (#5) (Edited)

I have seen you politically attack Glenn Beck. I have seen you politically attack Wikileaks.

But, I have not seen you attack, or try to refute, what those two groups have stated.

All you do is attack the messengers.

Then you have not read much of what I've written or commented on.

However, one of my interests is Psychological manipulation of the society and culture (by the way I've written a lot on archaeology threads another of my interests). Glenn Dreck and WeakeyLinks are two manifestations of that. There are several good websites that actually do publish legitimate leaks and revelations - Rense, What Really Happened, Cryptome, The Black Vault, and others more speculative but often on the mark such as Abovetopsecret.

However, I find disinformation and covert manipulation particularly invidious, and seek them out to dissect and to point out where they lie.

Do you deny that Glenn Dreck is a NeoCon Disinformation Source?

And if so why?

Do you deny that WeakeyLinks is another source of PsyOperations?

And if so why?

My objective, other than to express my disgust at the manipulations, is to encourage people to look, think, and not be taken in. To recognize that we as a society ARE under massive assault by a variety of manipulative means to distort, guide, and eventually subjugate through manipulation.

What we are experiencing in this time in place is a rather disgusting mix of "1984" and "Brave New World".

You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   14:10:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#8)

Then you have not read much of what I've written or commented on.

I have. You talk about "psy-ops". But it is likely it is the articles that you posts that are the "psy-ops"

A "psy-op" is at two levels. At the top level, it is makes statements for or against something, without offering anything constructive to that goal. In a nutshell, it is lip service.

At the lower level, it pushes through a hidden agenda.

Now, the articles you have posted does not question what Wikileaks claims against various nations. Instead, all the articles do is attack the messenger. That is a red flag right there for a psy-op.

Note, I am not politically attacking you the messenger. I am questioning the articles you post.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-14   14:18:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PaulCJ, Flintlock, Eric Stratton, all (#11)

I have. You talk about "psy-ops". But it is likely it is the articles that you posts that are the "psy-ops"

Any argument or analysis stands on its own. It is either logically valid and comports with the known facts or it does not.

Now, the articles you have posted does not question what Wikileaks claims against various nations. Instead, all the articles do is attack the messenger. That is a red flag right there for a psy-op.

What you are missing is what is missing in the WeakeyLinks data dump, and it has to be taken in its entirely. I have not formed my opinion or conclusion based on "1" article or "1" source.

This particular PsyOp, Wikileaks, is better constructed than most and so requires a little closer scrutiny to begin ferreting out what is actually being done.

The overall penumbra is that it tends to reinforce already in place memes such as:

Osama Ben Dead since Dec. 2001 is still alive. Gotta keep the bogeyman active.

Assange's comments on 911 support the existing government fairy tale.

The overall tenor of the releases support the call to more pointless wars against Israel's geopolitical rivals.

The leaks were vetted, and redacted, through the controlled major media such as The Guardian, and The New York Times. I posted an article yesterday analyzing the Times' spin on the releases - as well as their admitted censorship in concert with the U.S. Feral Government.

There is NOTHING in ANY of what has been released by WeakeyLinks that is particularly damaging. Embarassing for some foreign leaders and a few lower level diplomats but nothing of any significance in regard to the higher levels in the U.S. power structure. There are no stunning revelations, nor anything which reveals what is going on at the higher levels of the government. There are implications but nothing solid.

Also missing is virtually any reference to Israel. An example of omitted data. I won't spend a lot of time on this but it is known that Assange did meet with the Israelis prior to the data dump.

Additionally are Assanges links to known fronts for intelligence operations and his being raised in what appears to have been an MK-Ultra derivative group.

An analysis must include the plus points and the out points, and once you start cataloging them the outpoints mount very quickly.

I'm not particularly inclined to spend a lot of time doing a major analysis which would take hours to write. I am pointing out some of the outpoints and suggesting people look, analyze, and conclude based on the picture painted by ALL the facts.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14   14:44:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#14)

Any argument or analysis stands on its own. It is either logically valid and comports with the known facts or it does not.

Which is exactly the point I am making. The articles you post lack argument and analysis and rely on accusations.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-14   14:51:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#17. To: PaulCJ (#15)

For instance?

I've posted a lot of analysis on the WeakeyLinks PsyOp and if you choose to accept the unsupported and superficial analyses of the Lamestream media that is your choice. I can't force you to think and look beyond surface appearances.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-14 14:57:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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