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Title: Elected tea partier Allen West calls for mass censorship of US media
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URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/ ... y-allen-west-censorship-media/
Published: Dec 14, 2010
Author: Eric W. Dolan
Post Date: 2010-12-15 15:51:49 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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The government should censor news agencies that report on US documents leaked by websites like WikiLeaks, according to a tea party-backed Republican who will soon represent the 22th district congressional of Florida. Speaking with an online radio station, Rep.-elect Allen West said that attacks on the US were not limited to "a bomb or an airplane flying into a building," but could occur "through cyber attacks" or "through leaking of very sensitive classified information." "Regardless of whether you think it causes any harm, the fact that here is an individual that is not an American citizen first and foremost, for whatever reason gotten his hands on classified American material and put it out there in the public domain," West continued. "And I think that we also should be censoring the American news agencies which enabled him to do this and also supported him and applauding him for the efforts. So that's kind of aiding and abetting of a serious crime." Rep.-elect West is not the first to compare the release of confidential US documents by WikiLeaks to a terrorist attack. Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY), Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, and Rep. Peter King (R-NY) have made similar comparisons. Even CNN bought into the analogy, wondering if WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is a "journalist or terrorist" during its coverage of the secrets outlet. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said the person who gave WikiLeaks 250,000 secret diplomatic cables deserves the death penalty. GA_googleFillSlot("Raw_Embedded_300"); Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) said the New York Times, who published documents released by WikiLeaks, "committed at least an act of bad citizenship" and said the news agency deserves "very intensive inquiry by the Justice Department." In sharp contrast to lawmakers like Rep.-elect West and Sen. Lieberman, Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) has suggested the world needs "more WikiLeaks." "In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," Rep. Paul said. "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it." Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA) has also supported the secrets outlet, saying that "if the public doesn't know what's going on, then they can't vote intelligently." London Metropolitan police arrested WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange last week for a warrant out of Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning in a sexual assault case. He was granted bail by a British judge on Tuesday afternoon but is expected to remain in prison while Swedish authorities appealed the decision.
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#65. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#49)
You have provided ZERO evidence, just conjecture. No, that is not true. I have posted multiple articles which deatail Assange's connections, operations, and the fact that people who have dealt with him intimately are working to distance themselves from him. Short of a "leak" when you are dealing with an intelligence agency operation, which WeakeyLinks most likely is, then all you are going to get is circumstantial evidence. That you are incapable of reading the evidence and exercising elementary logical deduction and inference is your failing not mine. "“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Lying to a cop is a crime, which means all lies can be made illegal.
We were not talking about human nature. Try to focus. I know that it is hard for you. We were talking about your factually incorrect statement. According to the courts, lying is protected by the First Amendment. Unless you are lying to the government, of course. Not surprisingly, the Republican and Democrat chosen "justices" have determined that the government can lie to you but you are not allowed to lie to the government. The American population are an abused and dispossessed people primed for a backlash against their oppressors, and the oppressors' supporters. You are living in a dreamworld. You make the mistake of thinking that the people who post on internet political forums represent the thoughts of the American people. They don't. The average American has no idea what is happening around them because they "don't like politics" or they think it "doesn't concern them." They are perfectly happy living as drones as long as they have their Playstations and cable TV or Dish networks. And when the backlash happens, and it will, I would not want to be in your quisling shoes. I hate to break this to you Shirley, but not being an authoritarian Republican bootlicker like yourself does not make me a quisling. When the people come for the press that had being lying about them , and demonizing them for decades, the press will cry about their "First Amendment rights", and the people will not care. All the people will care about will be retribution against all those whom have harmed them. Riggghhht. You keep telling yourself that. Pigs have a better chance of flying out of your ass.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
You have posted multiple links of other people making conjectures. How do you know THEY aren't the ones running the psyops operation? From my reading of the people distancing themselves from Assange they have been doing so because they disagreed with the way he was releasing the information. To my knowledge, not a single one of them has stood up and declared he was a Mossad or CIA operative.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
As for me being stupid, I guess it's a cross I will have to bare. We can't all be genius conspiracy sniffer-outers like you.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
That's your only fact? Wow ... you are really on a roll down-hill these past days aren't you?
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
When two different court rulings come into conflict each other, there is third ruling, which will happen in the future. You continue to defend your authoritarian masters.
If and only if, he is commissioned to interrogate you. At that point, you should just show a photo ID and shaddup. But lies are a natural occurrence within any society from exaggerated claims of products by their respective manufacturers to politicians smiling that pretty white smile to Presidents that create war out of thin aire. The first says nothing about lying or the truth; if it did, you would have read it. What the broad interpretation of the first amendment is: little or no government intrusion on the dissemination of information; and that includes the Internet.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
There will be no third ruling. It is the double standard that the two-party fraud you are constantly defending wants. You continue to defend your authoritarian masters. Says the guy who attacks anyone who says anything bad about the government. LOL! I really do not know who it is you are trying to fool because no one on this site is falling for it.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
2. Says the guy who attacks anyone who says anything bad about the government. 1. You are the one that posted those links defending that hypocrisy. 2. You are the one defending the voice of government. And you are the one attacking pro-freedom movements.
Several times on this thread you have stated that the TEA Party is a Pro-American movement (or similar expression). Why do you believe that?
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
Educating you on your ignorance of the 1st Amendment is not defending the hypocrisy of the two-party fraud. That's like trying to say that telling you that abortion is legal is defending abortion. It's not. 2. You are the one defending the voice of government. And you are the one attacking pro-freedom movements. You have a very active imagination. I neither defended government nor attacked anyone but Flintlock, who attacked me first.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
Their statements and actions.
Like the second amendment, how the lying press views the first amendment is not how it was originally intended.
Several times on this thread you have stated that the TEA Party is a Pro-American movement (or similar expression). I never said a word about the Tea Party on this thread. He's making things up.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
What has the TEA Party performed besides a few protests with Sarah Palin as their figurehead [as] "Taxed Enough Already" .... this stuff has been going on for many decades with an assortment of political groups from communists to libertarians.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
I agree completely with that statement but the subject was lying and the first amendment.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
By inference about West ..... Paul is Ok on that... but what has me chasing him is why he thinks the TEA Party is Pro-American.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
How was it originally intended??
Figures you're an inbred hillbilly, you act like one. You're dumber than I thought. Bolivia is a better place to meet for obvious reasons, but as usual you're a full of shit coward. Run hayek, run!
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
Well I'm not OK with it because while West is a part of the Tea Party, he is NOT the Tea Party.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
Actually, he brings core anti-American values to the TEA Party just as Sarah Palin: Israel comes first.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
No that would be the gutter slut you call your mother, mother fucker. Bolivia is a better place to meet for obvious reasons, but as usual you're a full of shit coward. LOL! You are you trying to kid Chester molester? You are a internet loud mouthed coward and fake tough guy who threw out a country on another continent knowing damned well that no sane individual would agree while ignoring a realistic meet place. Come on tough guy. I'll even find us a gym complete with a ring in order to have a no-holds barred fight - or we can do it on the street, however you choose.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
That's my belief as well, but I know that there are grass roots members of the Tea Party who do not hold to that belief so I wouldn't (and didn't) paint the whole movement with that brush.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
I will. With luck PaulCJ shall come back and answer my question concerning his opinion that the TEA Party is Pro-American. You see, what makes these movements "tick" are the leaders, particularly those that organize the same. For the TEA Party, it was built on Newt Gingrich's failed platform "Contract for America." And, because many of the leaders of the GOP have been introduced to the movement, the TEA Party shall fail, too. One of the largest shackles to our liberties is the national debt. And one of the largest reasons for that debt is the meanderings with foreign intrigue, particularly in the ME with Israel possessing nuclear warheads essentially threatening the region. The TEA Party intends to maintain a pro-antagonistic approach to the ME region and especially to protect Israel while Israel continues the plunder of Palestine. To me, that is an anti-American approach. And West can take his religious beliefs and stuff them ALONG with his censorship speeches.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
Just because something is legal doesn't mean it is ethical. If these documents would have shed light on Israel killing unarmed civilians aboard the ships in international waters with humanitarian aid for the Palestinians in Gaza then it would have been very ethical to release them classified or not. But these documents mainly have only made Israel's desire that the USA attack Iran more legit by other Arab leaders stating they want the USA to attack Iran as well. The destabilization of Pakistan and North Korea as well as the supposed justification for calling Iran an evil regime that needs to be bombed is all these documents have really accomplished so far. That in no way is a good outcome and I sure the heck wouldn't have released such documents even if it were perfectly legal to do so. Also everyone is just assuming these documents are legit and true, that is not a good assumption to make. They easily could be fake or contain only partial truth with lies.
God is always good!
I did answer you question.
But I am interested in clarification as I posted in #80. I am interested in your honest viewpoint.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
I had higher stakes in mind. It's obvious you can't afford a ticket and don't have the balls to put your money where your mouth is.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
LOL! Sure you did tough guy, sure you did. You are a momma's boy who knew damn well that neither I nor anyone else would take you up on the offer. It's obvious you can't afford a ticket and don't have the balls to put your money where your mouth is. Says the pussy who refuses to take a drive to Nashville.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
They said they are for smaller government, to that end they voted out rinos in the primaries and voted for conservatives in the election. They believe in hold ALL politicians feet to the political fire constantly. They practice what they preach, unlike some of this board. And the fact the quislings in the press and D.C. hate them with a passion. Buckeroo, on this thread so far, you have been polite to me. And though we may disagree, I would like to continue this civility.
Says the pussy who wants to play for funzies. I'll bet a loser like you doesn't even have a passport, let alone ever used one.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
Think whatever you like coward.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
Put up or shut up, loser.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
You have a sincere belief in the TEA Party and the hopeful outcome of the election results. I don't share your opinion at all. America is fractured across a political matrix creating a serious series of roadblocks towards the reformation of the federal government into a smaller more effective unit, as it was once designed. And, as I said earlier within a post, the TEA Party represents the same neocon hawks advancing a war machine in the ME. To me, it is impossible to cut back government as it expands into the affairs of others. Lets see who is more accurate in a year from now, you or me. Don't forget.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
Shut me up bootlicker. Nashville. Put up or shut up.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
Meet me in Rurri, we'll party for all the marbles. Got the money for a ticket? Got the balls? I doubt it. .
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
2. And, as I said earlier within a post, the TEA Party represents the same neocon hawks advancing a war machine in the ME. 1. I agree that America is fractured. This nation is going to collapse, and likely very soon. No jobs. Increasing government created debt. Theft of private wealth by government that is sent to foreign nations. No manufacturing industry. Barely a service industry. Government rewarding foreign criminals, while abusing native citizens. Those in D.C. are getting their wish that Americans will only have their guns and bible to cling too, and how terrifying a reality that is. 2. They also want the US/mexican border sealed. To them it is about defense of this nation from both foreign (terrorists) and domestic (quisling) enemies. In life, you will not find people that completely agrees with you. To think otherwise is foolish.
Since you are so interested in my money meet me in Nashville and I will be glad to bring my checking, savings and investment accounts and show you how much money I have after I whoop your ass bootlicker.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
West kisses Israeli butt. That's all one needs to know. Re: "censored" vs. "censured", I'm inclined to think that the silly Negro isn't too swift with the English language.
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#66. To: buckeroo (#63)
Bump for a good post on this lying stuff.
#67. To: PaulCJ (#62)
No, it is not you whom does not understand human nature.
#68. To: Original_Intent (#65)
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#69. To: Original_Intent (#65)
#70. To: Original_Intent (#64)
When was the last time you heard an Intelligence Agency broadcast that they are running a PsyOp?
#71. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#67)
Unless you are lying to the government, of course.
#72. To: PaulCJ (#66)
Lying to a cop is a crime, which means all lies can be made illegal.
#73. To: PaulCJ (#71)
When two different court rulings come into conflict each other, there is third ruling, which will happen in the future.
#74. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#73)
1. It is the double standard that the two-party fraud you are constantly defending wants.
#75. To: PaulCJ, F.A. Hayek Fan (#74)
And you [F.A. Hayek Fan] are the one attacking pro-freedom movements.
#76. To: PaulCJ (#74)
1. You are the one that posted those links defending that hypocrisy.
#77. To: buckeroo (#75)
Why do you believe that?
#78. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#76)
Educating you on your ignorance of the 1st Amendment is not defending the hypocrisy of the two-party fraud.
#79. To: buckeroo (#75)
And you [F.A. Hayek Fan] are the one attacking pro-freedom movements.
#80. To: PaulCJ (#77)
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#81. To: PaulCJ (#78)
Like the second amendment, how the lying press views the first amendment is not how it was originally intended.
#82. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#79)
I never said a word about the Tea Party on this thread.
#83. To: PaulCJ (#78)
how the lying press views the first amendment is not how it was originally intended.
#84. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#36)
I will be in Nashville from the 23-27th.
#85. To: buckeroo (#82)
By inference about West ..... Paul is Ok on that..
#86. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#85)
Well I'm not OK with it because while West is a part of the Tea Party, he is NOT the Tea Party.
#87. To: Flintlock (#84)
Figures you're an inbred hillbilly, you act like one.
#88. To: buckeroo (#86)
Actually, he brings core anti-American values to the TEA Party just as Sarah Palin: Israel comes first.
#89. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, PaulCJ (#88)
I wouldn't (and didn't) paint the whole movement with that brush.
#90. To: ghostdogtxn (#42)
Once the agency loses control over the information and outsiders get hold of it, they can do whatever they want with it. That's freedom of the press. It's also ancillary to the notion that we are not "subjects" of the government; ie, the government doesn't own us.
#91. To: buckeroo (#89)
I will. With luck PaulCJ shall come back and answer my question concerning his opinion that the TEA Party is Pro-American.
#92. To: PaulCJ (#91)
#93. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#87)
I'll even find us a gym complete with a ring
#94. To: Flintlock (#93)
I had higher stakes in mind.
#95. To: buckeroo (#92)
But I am interested in clarification as I posted in #80. I am interested in your honest viewpoint.
#96. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#94)
Says the pussy who refuses to take a drive to Nashville.
#97. To: Flintlock (#96)
I'll bet a loser like you doesn't even have a passport, let alone ever used one.
#98. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#97)
Think whatever you like coward.
#99. To: PaulCJ (#95)
#100. To: Flintlock (#98)
Put up or shut up, loser.
#101. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#100)
Shut me up
#102. To: buckeroo (#99)
1. I don't share your opinion at all. America is fractured across a political matrix creating a serious series of roadblocks towards the reformation of the federal government into a smaller more effective unit, as it was once designed.
#103. To: Flintlock (#101)
Got the money for a ticket?
#104. To: Flintlock (#12)
What you fail to mention is that West will be a champion for the 2nd Amendment, a foe to illegal immigrants and general pain in the ass to anything leftist.
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