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Title: 7 Technologies Where China Has the U.S. Beat
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URL Source: http://forum.globaltimes.cn/forum/showthread.php?t=23529
Published: Dec 7, 2010
Author: Adam Aston at Greener World Media
Post Date: 2010-12-16 02:13:30 by Tatarewicz
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Views: 208
Comments: 9

I've been watching China's ascent in cleantech for a couple of years. In that time China's potential to leapfrog the U.S. has gone from talk to substantive examples of leadership. Even so, I've been surprised by the increasing frequency with which China is pushing ahead in new fronts of cleantech development.

Earlier this week, the latest surprise came from energy secretary Steven Chu, who's been talking up China's green progress in an effort to boost Washington's resolve on clean tech policy.

In a talk at the National Press Club, with characteristic forceful clarity (PDF of slides), Chu illuminated the growing list of sectors where China's emerging leadership threatens U.S. players, and added leadership in supercomputing as the most recent Sino-superlative. China's success in these technologies represents a "Sputnik Moment" for the United States, Chu said.

"When it comes to innovation, Americans don't take a back seat to anyone -- and we certainly won't start now," said Secretary Chu at the event. "From wind power to nuclear reactors to high-speed rail, China and other countries are moving aggressively to capture the lead. Given that challenge, and given the enormous economic opportunities in clean energy, it's time for America to do what we do best: innovate."

China's ascent to the top of the list for supercomputing speed reveals a new front in this race. Last month China's Tianhe-1A, developed by Chinese defense researchers, became the world's fastest supercomputer, with a performance level of 2.57 petaflop/s (quadrillions of calculations per second, for all the geeks in our audience, based on a standard test), substantially eclipsing the U.S. DOE's Cray XT5 "Jaguar" system at Oak Ridge national labs in Tennessee, which runs at 1.75 petaflop/s. Third place is also held by a Chinese computer.

Supercomputers may seem long way from grid-competitive solar panels, long-range electric car batteries, or other cleantech gizmos, but advanced computational simulation is the keystone of most leading-edge scientific research, including nuclear energy, nanotech and materials science, proteomics and other advanced biotech applications. Basically, any very advanced science these days needs big computing horsepower. Leadership on the fastest-computer league tables has been traded off many times, between U.S., Japanese and European computing centers. China is a relative newcomer to the race, but is clearly the new elite.

Chu highlighted several crucial technologies -- mostly in the areas of power generation and transportation -- where China is already outpacing U.S. efforts, adding the U.S. must innovate or risk falling far behind. The following is from the DOE:

• High Voltage Transmission. China has deployed the world's first Ultra High Voltage AC and DC lines -- including one capable of delivering 6.4 gigawatts to Shanghai from a hydroelectric plant nearly 1300 miles away in southwestern China. These lines are more efficient and carry much more power over longer distances than those in the United States.

• High-Speed Rail. In the span of six years, China has gone from importing this technology to exporting it, with the world's fastest train and the world's largest high-speed rail network, which will become larger than the rest of the world combined by the end of the decade. Some short distance plane routes have already been cancelled, and train travel from Beijing to Shanghai (roughly equivalent to New York to Chicago) has been cut from 11 hours to 4 hours.

• Advanced Coal Technologies. China is rapidly deploying supercritical and ultra-supercritical coal combustion plants, which have fewer emissions and are more efficient than conventional coal plants because they burn coal at much higher temperatures and pressures. Last month, Secretary Chu toured an ultra-supercritical plant in Shanghai which claims to be 45 to 48 percent efficient. The most efficient U.S. plants are about 40 percent efficient. China is also moving quickly to design and deploy technologies for Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle (IGCC) plants as well as Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS).

• Nuclear Power. China has more than 30 nuclear power plants under construction, more than any other country in the world, and is actively researching fourth generation nuclear power technologies.

• Alternative Energy Vehicles. China has developed a draft plan to invest $17 billion in central government funds in fuel economy, hybrids, plug-in hybrids, electric and fuel cell vehicles, with the goal of producing 5 million new energy vehicles and 15 million fuel-efficient conventional vehicles by 2020.

• Renewable Energy. China is installing wind power at a faster rate than any nation in the world, and manufactures 40 percent of the world's solar photovoltaic (PV) systems. It is home to three of the world's top ten wind turbine manufacturers and five of the top ten silicon-based PV manufacturers in the world.

• Supercomputing. Last month, the Tianhe-1A, developed by China's National University of Defense Technology, became the world's fastest supercomputer. While the United States -- and the Department of Energy in particular -- still has unrivalled expertise in the useful application of high performance computers to advance scientific research and develop technology, America must continue to improve the speed and capacity of our advanced supercomputers.

Two research areas where the U.S. still leads:

On a note of consolation, Chu identified two research areas in U.S. labs that have the potential to vault U.S. industries to the front of these fields. Both are both vehicle related:

• Revolutionary Electric Vehicle Batteries -- 500 Miles on a Single Charge. With the help of Recovery Act funding, Arizona-based Fluidic Energy is working with Arizona State University to develop a new generation of "metal-air" batteries that can store many times more energy than standard lithium-ion batteries. Metal-air batteries contain high energy metals and literally breathe oxygen from the air, giving them the ability to store extreme amounts of energy.

To date, the development of these batteries has been blocked by the limitations of using unstable water based solutions that break down and evaporate out of the battery as it breathes. Fluidic Energy's innovative approach involves ionic liquids -- extremely stable salts in liquid form -- using no water at all.

If successful, the effort could yield batteries that weigh less, cost less, and are capable of carrying a four passenger electric car 500 miles without recharging, at a cost competitive with internal combustion engines. A fact sheet on the project, which is part of DOE's Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy (ARPA-E), is available here.

Converting Sunlight Into Usable Fuel. Through a newly established Energy Innovation Hub led by the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), an interdisciplinary team of scientists and engineers are working to create an integrated system modeled after photosynthesis that can convert sunlight, carbon dioxide and water into usable fuels such as gasoline.

The goal is to create a system of artificial photosynthesis that is 10 times more efficient than traditional photosynthesis in converting sunlight into fuel -- paving the way for a major expansion of America's biofuel industry and reducing our dependence on oil.


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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

We are fortunate that Obama appointed Chu, a Nobel recipient, as Sec of Energy. For contrast, Dubya appointed Spencer Abrams, a defeated politician, who had previously announced his desire to abolish the Dept of Energy - and once in office did his best (for example, by destroying the Dept's enormous technical library).

Some things that China has done simply couldn't be done here. Highspeed rail, although extremely attractive, requires running the tracks through mostly rural areas where they'd never encounter urban congestion, unlike the most of the US rail system. Building more and better nuclear plants requires very compliant communities that won't argue about such projects, and pretty much the same with coal burning plants. In fact, a good deal that China has accomplished can only be done in a dictatorship where the population isn't given any choices about enormous new (and experimental) projects in their vicinity.

Shoonra  posted on  2010-12-16   6:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

China's ascent is simple, they're not infested with jews actively engaged in the destruction of their country through corrupting the government, currency debasement, predatoty banking, several wars to kill Muslims, destruction of morals via the media, funneling the country's wealth to Israel, diversity & tolerance nonsense, etc.

China is for China, not the psycho-nutter jews.

Eliminate the jews and their lackeys from America, and we'll be a great country again, but not until then.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2010-12-16   7:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

we've always had great technology talent. However, one thing working against us in recent decades are the American managers. The American managers are very selfish and greedy. They themselves don't have the talent, yet they insist on making the profits from it and building their careers on other people's backs. They do not want the technical talent to get credit for their work. They always want to dominate & take credit. They won't allow real talent to prosper. They insist on hiring people with super-credentials and starving everyone else of any opportunity. The real talent is not able to develop & grow here in America because of these managers.

Professor Matloff of Univ of California-Davis did a study over 10 years ago and found that the large majority of people getting technical degrees in America never really got an opportunity to develop and work in their specialty.

The managers don't understand what it takes for a person to build themselves into the technical talent. not only that they are contemptuous of such people and see them as a rival. Only a subservient foreigner with super-credentials is a fit person for opportunity according to these managers.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-12-16   7:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-12-16   12:06:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

The Nazis were going to take over the world!!! The Imperial Japanese were going to take over the world!! The Commies were going to take over the world!!! The Japanese were going take over the world!!! (again) The Muslims were going to take over the world!!! The Chinese are going to take over the world!!!

It's all BS.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2010-12-16   12:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Red Jones (#3)

one thing working against us in recent decades are the American managers.

this is the point that keeps coming to me about changing our country - the rot runs real deep - 'they' might have been working against us in Washington n Israel, but managers all over this country have been enjoying the ride a bit much - they have theirs and deserve it, we are lucky to be in their precense /sarc

Threatening dismissal if ya pass gas, cutting wages and telling you to be 'thankful you have a job' - recession days are my favorite scam to see em use - 5 days off without pay each quarter "to help the company' while the work still must be done or you're fired and the bosses get their raises n Christmas bonuses

I see several on a power trip that I look forward to meeting another day, when they do not have this power


~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~

Amandil  posted on  2010-12-16   13:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Amandil (#6)

around 1970 there was a book written by James Burnham titled 'The Managerial Revolution'. In that book he identified a new class of people called managers and spoke of how important they are in today's world. His arguments were compelling.

In American business colleges there is a profit-maximization ideology sold to young american students. They are taught that the only legitimate concern of a manager was profit maximization, that every decision must be run by profit concerns, that no other concern is even legitimate. I do not believe that this indoctrination is so powerful in foreign countries.

For whatever reason the managers in america are extremely greedy and their effectiveness has been compromised as a result.

I read an article about 5 years ago comparing Toyota executives to General Motors executives. They said the top 20 GM executives all got multi-million dollar compensation packages. Whereas in Toyota the top 20 executives got only $100,000 per year. The difference in salary was about a factor of 20. and Toyota has been slaughtering General Motors. GM needs bailouts to survive while Toyota became the world's biggest car maker.

I remember reading an auto-biography by J. Paul Getty who was a famous rich person. He was a young man about 25 years old in the 1920's and trying to make it in the oil business. He said all his friends were just like him, young men from rich families all trying to make it also in that business. and he said they would agree among themselves that they should not go into business with people who had dollar signs in their eyes. Because someone so focused on money would not be able to see other things and thus would be ineffective.

In the christian bible it says that the love of money is the root of all evil. and it says that those who reject the ways of god will do inconvenient things, that is they would grow to do stupid things. When managers are systematically encouraged to love money and focus on it, then those managers are in essence being destroyed.

In America the managers will tell you that we can't compete economically because our people want to get paid too much money. In Germany and Japan they do not make such excuses and instead they are very excellent at exporting goods even though their people make high wages. But in Japan and Germany the business class itself believes in producing rather than borrowing and financial manipulations to make money.

I worked for a german company here in America as a software consultant. I was very impressed with their corporate culture. It was very unlike any American employer I've ever been exposed to. I've had experience with American managers who are so greedy and selfish that they basically destroy the efforts of the technical talent trying to make it. In America they will put a techno-phobe in charge of a technology project primarily because the technophobe manager shares the greedy lust for money that the business owner or financier prefers. and then the technophobe manager will behave like a wrecking ball to the technical talent.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-12-16   13:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Red Jones (#7)

But in Japan and Germany the business class itself believes in producing rather than borrowing and financial manipulations to make money.

That is very true.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-16   14:06:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Red Jones (#7)

currently I work for a company that must send 40% off the top each month, to the corporate daddy - and, this 40% must grow every month also, or else - if a sales person gets lucky and sells something big, they now have to exceed those sales numbers the following year in that month, or else

they've let go of janitors and 20 some other employees in past 4 years, my computers/software are 10 years old and almost in compatible with our customers now lol ~ they keep getting their cut, every month - while we recycle garbage bags

last manager had me working for free on weekends for about 6-8 months, illegal I know, but I need to eat - I drew the line at his threatening behavior, expected him to start punching some of us any day - so I told his daddy corporate and prepared to be fired ... they took away my weekend hours, he got promotion and transfer ... they didn't mind him threatening us, but he wasn't supposed to get caught having us work for free

it's a mind set with them now - 40 years ago I was taught much different, take care of your people, give em the tools they need, watch the work get done ... today I'm just frustrated and disappointed and looking forward to the end of their ride ... if I live through the initial fall, my plan at the moment is to visit a few of them folk, see how they are doing ... remind them of how they did this to us


~ the truth will set ya free, but only after it pisses ya off ~

Amandil  posted on  2010-12-16   18:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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