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Title: Beijing admits it is building an aircraft carrier
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201012160435.html
Published: Dec 17, 2010
Author: KENJI MINEMURA
Post Date: 2010-12-17 17:39:24 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 197
Comments: 14

BEIJING--China has officially admitted for the first time that it has embarked on an aircraft carrier building program, part of a grand strategy to "build itself up as a maritime power."

A report published by the State Oceanic Administration says the country's leaders decided last year to back plans to build China's first aircraft carrier. The Chinese government and military had kept the program under wraps until now.

The annual national ocean development report says that asserting China's power at sea is "indispensible to accomplishing the great resurgence of the Chinese people."

Chinese military sources said initial plans had called for launching a conventional powered carrier with a displacement of between 50,000 and 60,000 tons in 2015. But, with construction progressing quickly, the launch of the first Chinese-made aircraft carrier now appears to be set for 2014.

Construction has already begun at six military-affiliated companies and research institutes in Shanghai and other locations.

The plan calls for a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to be launched by around 2020.

Meanwhile, the Varyag, a Soviet-era Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier bought from the Ukraine, is undergoing repairs in the northeastern port of Dalian and is expected to be pressed into service as a training vessel from 2012.

The Chinese military is developing a fighter jet to be used on its new carrier and about 50 pilots have begun land-based training.

Facilities to train the pilots in landing and taking off at sea are being constructed at Xingcheng, Liaoning province, and Xian, Shaanxi province, and a full-scale model of an aircraft carrier has been completed in Wuhan, Hubei province, to test radar systems.

The report, written by a research institute affiliated to the State Oceanic Administration, sketches a strategy for expanding the reach of Chinese sea power and strengthening its ability to protect its maritime interests.

As part of that strategy, the report says, the Chinese military "came out in 2009 with a vision and plan to construct aircraft carriers."

It also maps out a longer-term drive to build China into a mid-level maritime power by about 2020, able to counter challenges and threats at sea.

The report indicates that possessing aircraft carriers is seen not only as necessary to compete with the United States, but also as a way to heighten patriotic sentiment in China.

Military sources said the Chinese leadership decided in April 2009 at an expanded meeting of the Communist Party's Politburo to give the go-ahead to the aircraft carrier building program.

But there appears to have been a tug-of-war within the Chinese regime about publicly announcing the program. Initial plans to announce the program were put off because of concerns that it would fan concerns in neighboring nations about the Chinese military threat.

However, the military has been insistent that the construction plan should be announced. The report by the State Oceanic Administration, an agency of China's land ministry with close ties to the Chinese Navy, may have been a convenient vehicle for that lobby.

All the aircraft carriers will likely be based at Sanya, a South China Sea port on the southern tip of Hainan Island.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2010-12-17   17:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: ghostdogtxn (#1)

As dollar hegemony fades, it's natural to conclude that US military hegemony will also.

Well put.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-17   17:50:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

No problem at all. They just want to ensure their vested interests in the Panama Canal.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2010-12-17   17:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

The annual national ocean development report says that asserting China's power at sea is "indispensible to accomplishing the great resurgence of the Chinese people."

Does anyone see any reason we should have an interest in such???

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-17   17:51:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

...able to counter challenges and threats at sea.

IOW: war with Communist China in our lifetime.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-12-17   17:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: X-15 (#5)

IOW: war with Communist China in our lifetime.

Count on it, bet on it, plan on it, if you are under sixty years of age.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-17   17:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Russia has been providing training and equipment to the Chinese for their eventual breakout at sea.

Oddly enough, India is also building a carrier and we are "assisting" them.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-17   17:59:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

How many foot soldiers can fit on an aircraft carrier?

Did someone say, "Nuke China"?


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2010-12-17   18:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

-China has officially admitted for the first time that it has embarked on an aircraft carrier building program,

What kind? Catapults or a launch ramp? There's a big difference in capabilities.

Only three countries have catapult carriers, US, France and Brazil. Brazil bought an old one from us.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-12-17   20:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: wudidiz (#8)

How many foot soldiers can fit on an aircraft carrier?

A lot more than Wayne Madsen's imaginary Chinese nuclear powered submarine firing an ICBM off of Southern California's coast last month.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2010-12-17   20:22:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: wudidiz (#8)

Did someone say, "Nuke China"?

We been down that road before and the capability remains.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-12-17   20:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#4)

Does anyone see any reason we should have an interest in such???

honestly no. we shouldn't really care if China has a navy or what kind of navy.

I've been interested in an American historian named Charles Baird. He died in 1948. He was a supporter of the New Deal in the 1930's, but then when they wanted to go to war in WW2 he became an isolationist and was opposed to it. After WW2 he coined the term 'perpetual war for the sake of perpetual peace'. He said that was the ideology of those who are in charge.

those americans who had the wisdom and insight back in 1941 & 1942 to oppose our entry into WW2 were the smart ones. but when Pearl Harbor occurred all opposition was silenced.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-12-17   20:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

I believe the American aircraft carriers displace about 100,000 tons. this chinese one planned will displace 50,000 tons. but they'll finish that one by 2014 and then start on building the larger ones like what we have. after they gain some experience building the larger ones they will likely produce in a larger quantity. By 2030 they'll have more large aircraft carriers than us and a bigger navy - if they decide to.

Psalms 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.

Red Jones  posted on  2010-12-17   20:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#0) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-18   8:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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