The Senate on Saturday blocked a bill that would create a path to citizenship for certain illegal immigrant students who came to the United States as children, completed two years of college or military service and met other requirements including passing a criminal background check. The vote, 55-41 in favor of the bill, effectively kills the measure for this year, and its fate beyond that is uncertain.
Right you are, buck. I haven't a clue how this bill didn't pass, but it's a wonderful surprise as it will further anger the perpetual angry base of the socialist wing of the National Party. This rebuff to the Illegal Lobby makes me berry, berry happy.
but I believe he carries a touch of Stockholm Syndrome regarding illegals :)
you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
But remember, I am sticking with Ronald Reagan on this issue. Reagan believed in forgiving the illegals.
I feel that any civilized society has an obligation to the children that grow up in that society. Most illegal immigrants' children believe it or not grow up with English as their preferred language. They go to American schools, have american friends and think that they are American.
We allowed their parents to come here and to exist here.
But remember, I am sticking with Ronald Reagan on this issue. Reagan believed in forgiving the illegals.
They go to American schools, have american friends and think that they are American.
Reagan sold his amnesty as a measure to STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!!! How has that worked out for this nation?
Yes, the illegal children go to our pubic schools on our tax dollars, Red. Isn't that enough of a gift to them without adding the amnesty cherry on top? Our schools are now broke with vast amounts of money spent on ESL and free lunches. How's it all working out for us, Red?
don't blame me that the US congress has passed a law that protected employers who hire illegals. that was done in 1986. Don't blame me for that. and actually don't blame ronald reagan. He did not have a vote in congress. He came before the public and told everyone that the law needed to be changed to penalize employers for hiring illegals. He told everyone that congress screwed up and it needed to be fixed. I saw Reagan's speech. Don't blame me and don't blame reagan for the failure of congress.
Reagan was actually under great pressure to sign the bill. He did not come up with the idea contrary to your implication. He was also handicapped by dementia at the time and he had people surrounding him like Bush who were deceiving him. At least he came before the public and told everyone of the problem. that is a lot more than almost anyone else did.
If we had passed the legislation that reagan asked for, then these 20-30 million illegals would not be here. So don't blame him.
Reagan was actually under great pressure to sign the bill. He did not come up with the idea contrary to your implication. He was also handicapped by dementia at the time and he had people surrounding him like Bush who were deceiving him. At least he came before the public and told everyone of the problem. that is a lot more than almost anyone else did.
Spare me Red. Reagan signed it and therefore he is responsible for it. Sheesh, just a few posts up you were cheerleading Reagan as your reason for promoting amnesty.......yet, you continually omit that it was sold as a way to END ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and has failed miserably.
yet, you continually omit that it was sold as a way to END ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and has failed miserably.
you are mistaken. Many politicians in those days and the mass media told us that the 1986 reform legislation would end illegal immigration. But Ronald Reagan was not one such person. You are a liar. Reagan said, and I saw his speech, that we needed to pass legislation to stop the new illegals from coming. he said that at the time he signed what he said was flawed legislation. Others sold the legislation as you said, reagan did not. The rest of our establishment did as you say. but reagan was the 1 rebel who told us the truth.
why the heck should I. I saw ronald reagan's speech. she mis-characterized it. he was one leader on our public stage that warned us. He did not create the legislation. he said he opposed it while they were making it. The wall street journal said he opposed what they were doing. he signed the bill in protest. that is a fact. he did not originate the bill. Others did.
A story-line was created and the media sold it to us. But the reality is that reagan did warn us on that legislation. and the media conveniently ignored that part in their story-line. Others are addicted to that story-line the media sold. I am not. I remember what Reagan said and I will not mischaracterize it just to make some liar happy.
If somebody is going to mischaracterize reagan and slander him, then I don't really respect that. I do respect Ronald Reagan. Reagan explained carefully and patiently that millions of illegals would come here if we did not modify the legislation. He did that on national tv. Don't blame me for remembering that just because others believed the media story of those events.
reagan was not the author of those aspects of the legislation. Senate Republicans were. Put the blame where it belongs.
we're all entitled to our opinions. just like assholes, they can be ugly.
so you would've done things different from reagan. Thats great. i don't have any confidence that you are one tenth the person that reagan was. You did not get yourself elected. reagan did. Reagan was the only public figure in 1986 who was warning us of the danger of illegal immigrants and he did that as the legislation was signed by him. that is an achievement. If you want to bad- mouth him for it, so be it. who cares. You are a person of insignificant achievements by comaprison.
I'll say it again, reagan was under dementia at the time. and he was surrounded by people who were against him, likely giving him drugs that put him at a severe disadvantage. at least he had the clarity to tell the public what was wrong with that legislation. Nobody else did that.
You act like Reagan was the cause of the illegal immigrants coming. The media sold you on that. It is false. if we implemented what reagan tried to sell us we would not have the illegal immigrants here. we did not do that. and yet you blamed reagan for our nation's failure. a cheap cop-out and a lie.
Don't blame me that I recall exactly and precisely what happened. Those were important events. I guess I should be a mind-numbed stupid robot and believe whatever garbage the media sells. sorry, it does not compute.
reagan was under dementia at the time. and he was surrounded by people who were against him, likely giving him drugs that put him at a severe disadvantage
More fuzzy memory eh Red? Reagan's dementia onset is noted as 1989, not 1986.
In July 1989, the Reagans took a trip to Mexico, where Reagan was thrown off a horse and taken to a hospital for tests. The Reagans returned to the U.S. and visited the Mayo Clinic where they were told President Reagan had a head concussion and a subdural hematoma, and was subsequently operated on. Doctors believe that is what hastened the onset of Alzheimer's disease, an incurable neurological disorder which ultimately causes brain cells to die, and something Reagan was diagnosed with in 1994.