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Title: Lunar eclipse and winter solstice to coincide, first time since the year 1378
Source: Poorrrichard's Blog/Wattsupwiththat
URL Source: http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.c ... se-and-winter-solstice-to.html
Published: Dec 17, 2010
Author: Anthony Watts
Post Date: 2010-12-18 16:26:48 by Original_Intent
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Keywords: Moon, Solstice, Eclipse, Butt Cheeks
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Lunar eclipse and winter solstice to coincide, first time since the year 1378

By Anthony Watts at  wattsupwiththat.com


A similar lunar eclipse in Nov. 2003. The Moon may appear coppery red. Credit: Jim Fakatselis.
How often do you get to witness an event that has not been seen since the year 1378,  over half a millennium, 632 years ago? Of course, weather will make or break the viewing, and it appears the much of the west coast of the USA will be socked in with a significant winter storm at that time.


click to enlarge
Here’s the USA forecast for cloud cover. Blue is clearest, gray is cloud cover.
For those that can see it, the moon will likely appear as a deep coppery red, like this 2003 eclipse photo at left.

From Science @ NASA, they write: Everyone knows that “the moon on the breast of new-fallen snow gives the luster of mid-day to objects below.” That is, except during a lunar eclipse.
See for yourself on Dec. 21st, the first day of northern winter, when the full Moon passes almost dead-center through Earth’s shadow. For 72 minutes of eerie totality, an amber light will play across the snows of North America, throwing landscapes into an unusual state of ruddy shadow.

The eclipse begins on Tuesday morning, Dec. 21st, at 1:33 am EST (Monday, Dec. 20th, at 10:33 pm PST). At that time, Earth’s shadow will appear as a dark-red bite at the edge of the lunar disk. It takes about an hour for the “bite” to expand and swallow the entire Moon. Totality commences at 02:41 am EST (11:41 pm PST) and lasts for 72 minutes.
If you’re planning to dash out for only one quick look -­ it is December, after all -­ choose this moment: 03:17 am EST (17 minutes past midnight PST). That’s when the Moon will be in deepest shadow, displaying the most fantastic shades of coppery red.

Solstice Lunar Eclipse (map, 550px)
From first to last bite, the eclipse favors observers in North America. The entire event can be seen from all points on the continent. Click to view a world map of visibility circumstances. Credit: F. Espenak, NASA/GSFC.
Why red?
A quick trip to the Moon provides the answer: Imagine yourself standing on a dusty lunar plain looking up at the sky. Overhead hangs Earth, nightside down, completely hiding the sun behind it. The eclipse is underway. You might expect Earth seen in this way to be utterly dark, but it’s not. The rim of the planet is on fire! As you scan your eye around Earth’s circumference, you’re seeing every sunrise and every sunset in the world, all of them, all at once. This incredible light beams into the heart of Earth’s shadow, filling it with a coppery glow and transforming the Moon into a great red orb.

The moon passed through the center of the Eart...
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Back on Earth, the shadowed Moon paints newly fallen snow with unfamiliar colors–not much luster, but lots of beauty.
This lunar eclipse falls on the date of the northern winter solstice. How rare is that? Total lunar eclipses in northern winter are fairly common. There have been three of them in the past ten years alone. A lunar eclipse smack-dab on the date of the solstice, however, is unusual. Using NASA’s 5000 year catalog of lunar eclipses and JPL’s HORIZONS ephemeris to match eclipses and solstices, author Dr. Tony Phillips had to go back to the year 1378 to find a similar “winter solstice lunar eclipse.”

Author: Dr. Tony Phillips | Credit: Science@NASA

h/t to WUWT reader “Ray”

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#1. To: christine, farmfriend, abraxas, Scrapper2, ratcat, Octavia, paddlefeet, TwentyTwelve, Lod, Eric Stratton, Genghis Gandhi, Irishthatcherite, Dakmar, James Deffenbach, wudidiz, all (#0)

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"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-18   16:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Looks like the moon will be low in the sky in my part of the world for that. lol

Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-12-18   16:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Fascinating. I hope it isn't overcast.

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

Brian D  posted on  2010-12-18   16:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Thank you for the heads-up, I'll get up (or stay up) and watch it.

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X-15  posted on  2010-12-18   17:21:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#4)

Me too - if we're not clouded over.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-18   17:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: irishthatcherite (#2)

Looks like the moon will be low in the sky in my part of the world for that. lol

True, but if you are up for the moon set you should be able to catch a few minutes of it.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-18   17:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brian D (#3)

Fascinating. I hope it isn't overcast.

Ditto. I'm in the Pacific Northwet.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-18   17:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#1)

Excellent, thank you for the ping.

Looks like there are some different numbers floating around though:

www.montrealgazette.com/l...+years/3983582/story.html


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wudidiz  posted on  2010-12-18   18:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#7)

Pacific Northwet

LOL that's a good one.


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wudidiz  posted on  2010-12-18   18:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: wudidiz (#8)

thank you for the ping.

You are most welcome.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-18   18:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: wudidiz (#9)

Pacific Northwet

LOL that's a good one.

Yeah, I thought it was cute the first time I heard it. It definitely describes the climate. ;-)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-18   18:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#11)

It definitely describes the climate. ;-)

Six months of rain.

www.theweathernetwork.com...bc0308?ref=qlink_lt_14day

Can't wait til the 29th ;)


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wudidiz  posted on  2010-12-18   19:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Original_Intent (#6)

True, but if you are up for the moon set you should be able to catch a few minutes of it.

I might manage to see the whole totality period.. maybe. Just a quick time zone calculation there. EST+5. lol

Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-12-18   19:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: wudidiz (#12)

Well from the looks of it you're supposed to get a little sun tomorrow. Coming as a complete "shock" we got heavy rain all night and into the morning. We're in between fronts at the moment so I did get out and buy my Numbers Ticket from the local state sanctioned Numbers Game outlet.

Here's our forecast: forecast.weather.gov/MapC...&lat=45.5774&lon=-122.621

Wet, continued wet, more wet, even more wet, until at least May.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-18   19:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: irishthatcherite (#13)

So, I'm guessing, if I read that right, it's a little after midnight there. I'm on the Pacific coast so it is currently 4:15 PM and 20 seconds - beeeeeeeep! LOL!

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-18   19:13:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent (#14)

Well from the looks of it you're supposed to get a little sun tomorrow.

Yes, but that's for Vancouver and I'm NW of there. I just gave you the Van forecast to hide my exact location. The forecast for here doesn't give any sun until the 29th. Of course the forecast, like the weather, changes from day to day anyway. In my line of work I've been watching the weather forecasts daily for over 14 years. I've concluded a couple of things:

1. If it says it will rain tomorrow, it might rain.

2. If it says it will be dry and sunny tomorrow, it most always is.


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wudidiz  posted on  2010-12-18   19:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: wudidiz (#16)

Every day will be clear here in Georgia for the next week, except for the 21st, then there will be some rain. Might be clear at that time in the morning though, sure hope so, I would love to see it.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2010-12-18   19:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: wudidiz (#16)

Yes, but that's for Vancouver and I'm NW of there. I just gave you the Van forecast to hide my exact location.

That's fine I did the same thing, but I'm close enough to Portland for it to be reasonably close to what I'll get.

My experience for this time of the year is:

1. If it says it will rain tomorrow, it likely will.

2. If it says it will be dry and sunny tomorrow, it will likely rain.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-18   19:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Not quite coincide.

According to the US Naval Observatory, the full moon/eclipse is about 26 hours before the solstice.

asa.usno.navy.mil/

Shoonra  posted on  2010-12-18   19:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Shoonra (#19)

Darn. Does that mean the human sacrifice on the South Lawn is off?

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-18   19:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent (#15)

So, I'm guessing, if I read that right, it's a little after midnight there. I'm on the Pacific coast so it is currently 4:15 PM and 20 seconds - beeeeeeeep! LOL!

And I had to go disappear after that. lol So now it's 1:33 AM. lol

Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-12-18   20:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent, X-15, irishthatcherite (#5)

Me too - if we're not clouded over.

Living in Sacramento, if it isn't cloudy it will be foggy. Maybe a trip to mom's is in order.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-12-18   21:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#20)

Darn. Does that mean the human sacrifice on the South Lawn is off?

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Radar has put his foot down. “No voodoo in the White House. Absolutely. I don’t care what you call it,” Obama allegedly declared.

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randge  posted on  2010-12-18   21:40:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: farmfriend (#22)

By all means do it, this is a rare opportunity to see something truly unique in the night sky.

I will be out in the country where I can see the Milky Way and hear coyotes yipping and yapping all around.

__________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2010-12-18   22:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: farmfriend (#22)

Well if the sky isn't clear in California... it certainly won't be in Ireland. lol

Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-12-18   22:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Dang! I missed it.

;>)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2010-12-18   22:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Very cool.
I'm sure the pagans will be busy sacrificing someone something.


Armadillo  posted on  2010-12-18   23:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Armadillo (#27)

LOL!

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-18   23:43:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: irishthatcherite (#25)

Well if the sky isn't clear in California... it certainly won't be in Ireland. lol

Road trip!


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-12-19   0:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Armadillo (#27)

LOL


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-12-19   0:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Armadillo (#27)

I'm sure the pagans will be busy sacrificing someone something.

LOL. As if the Illuminati need an excuse. lol

Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-12-19   10:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: farmfriend (#29)

Road trip!

Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-12-19   10:47:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Original_Intent (#1)

I was born 12-21, the Winter Solstice. I will be 50. My hair is dark w a few greys comn in around the temples n Burns....The absolutist kewlist place to B on that 'Day‘ would B Newgrange in Ireland(look it up). I will be watching. ...Nice post!!!!

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2010-12-20   4:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Turns out that the Loughner (Jared included) were NOT members or attenders of Giffords's synagogue. There was no cover-up (not that the rabbi was obliged to reveal any details of membership to begin with):

www.opednews.com/articles...Rabbi-by-Rob-Kall-110112- 823.html

Shoonra  posted on  2011-01-13   7:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Shoonra (#34)

Yes, I saw that. So, we'll have to wait and see what falls out. The hullabaloo is slowly subsiding but there is still a lot more smoke than light.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-13   15:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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