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Title: Video of Seattle Cop Murdering Homeless Man Released By Court
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Published: Dec 18, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-12-18 18:41:12 by wudidiz
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John Williams was gunned down by a psycho cop on a Seattle street last August
Under orders from a King County judge, police in Seattle, Wash., have released video footage of a police officer shooting a homeless man originally from Vancouver Island.

Wood carver John Williams was crossing a street when a police officer spotted him carrying a knife and a piece of wood.

Seattle police say Officer Ian Birk, 27, thought Williams was a threat.

Investigators say Williams had turned to face the officer but would not say if he had made any sort of move toward him.

Williams, 50, had been living in Seattle for 18 years, working as a carver at the Pike Place Market in the city's downtown tourist district, when he was shot Aug. 30.

He died after the officer shot him four times in the chest.



Audio recordings from the patrol car indicate Williams failed to comply with repeated orders to put down his knife, Seattle police said. A local art dealer said Williams was deaf in one ear and likely did not hear the officer.

Birk's lawyer did not agree with the release of the video, but King County District Court Judge Arthur Chapman ruled on Thursday that the footage should be released Friday.

Birk was recently asked to turn in his badge and his gun.

An inquest into the shooting is scheduled for January.






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The guy was a carver. He was carving a piece of wood. This is so sick. (1 image)

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#41. To: Jethro Tull, Original_Intent, (#34)

I think farmfriend has this nailed. He came upon an opportunity to kill someone, and he did. It's that simple, and that sick.

I wasn't the one that came up with that idea. I actually agree with OI on this one. Cops all seem to have a superiority complex.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-12-19   0:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: farmfriend, all (#41)

LiveLeak video without the stupid AM radio broadcast.

You can hear the officer calling in the shooting and giving his story to obviously sympathetic coworkers.

Warning: The linked image depicts a public official engaged in unhygienic acts. The poster is not responsible for violent upset on the part of viewers.

randge  posted on  2010-12-19   1:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: wudidiz (#20)

I'd like to know if the cop was on psychotropic drugs or if there was a record of any prior confrontation with the victim.

Dangerous cops are another reason why citizens should ALL be armed. These types of events have been increasing.

"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".

noone222  posted on  2010-12-19   5:10:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#14)

After the first warning, the four shots fired were within seconds.

I think I hear five shots

"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".

noone222  posted on  2010-12-19   6:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: randge, Original_Intent, noone222, buckeroo, Buzzard, Esso, farmfriend, Jethro Tull, X-15, abraxas, *Jack-Booted Thugs*, *Post Of The Day* (#42)

LiveLeak video without the stupid AM radio broadcast.

You can hear the officer calling in the shooting and giving his story to obviously sympathetic coworkers.

Most excellent find.


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wudidiz  posted on  2010-12-19   7:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: All (#45)

A dash cam video from the officer who shot and killed Native American woodcarver John T. Williams was released Friday, showing Williams ambling slowly across the street in a crosswalk before the officer opens fire.

Although most of the action takes place off-screen, Williams is seen walking across the street in front of the patrol car in the video, dated Aug. 30.

The patrol car starts to pul More..l forward, then stops.

Officer Ian Burke can then be seen walking after Williams and shouting, "Hey, hey, hey! Put the knife down! Put the knife down!"

The officer walks off-screen and then five shots ring out in rapid succession, killing Williams.

Birk's badge was later pulled after a Seattle Police Department Review Board and Chief John Diaz reached a preliminary finding that Williams' shooting was not justified.

A judge ruled Thursday that the clip from officer Ian Birk's car could be released to the public after prosecutors had a chance to notify witnesses not to view the tape.

The tape's release comes after a public disclosure request from the Seattle Times.

An inquest into Williams' shooting death by Officer Ian Birk has been set to begin on Jan. 10. The facts of the case will be laid out in the open through the process.

www.liveleak.com/view?i=956_1292627716


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wudidiz  posted on  2010-12-19   7:13:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Esso (#23) (Edited)

Given the frequency of such events though, we really need to be looking at the training and recruiting practices.

I really think we have developed a fear mentality in cops making them paranoid. They no longer see us as fellow citizens but as a constant and pervasive threat.

You can thank the jews of the ADL for that. They've indoctrinated & brainwashed virtually every PD in the country.

They brag about it on their website. (Warning: the ADL website is LOADED with malware. Enter at your own risk.)

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"He had a knife and he was carving that wood."

He was not facing the officer when he was shot.

He was deaf in one ear, partially deaf in the other, and he was wearing headphones....he may not have heard the cop

.....people who acknowledge no governmental authority over them at all have the potential to react violently when a representative of such a government attempts to assert authority over them in some way....."

Officer Safety and Extremists: An Overview for Law Enforcement - by THE ANTIDEFAMATION LEAGUE, TRAINER OF CORPUSA [ www.fourwinds10.com/siter...lie/news.php?q=1206983637 ] LAW ENFORCEMENT

www.adl.org/learn/safety/Whysafety.asp

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-12-19   8:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: wudidiz, farmfriend (#17)

sorry, i meant to ping you to the above.

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"He had it open. He was carving that wood."

Other cops at about the 5 minute mark:

"Are you okay?"

"Good job."

"You did the right thing."

"Hang in there."

he was clearly a "threat" in their twisted-by-adl-training little minds.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-12-19   8:10:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#48)

Alive (yes) and KICKING ... stayed tuned !

"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".

noone222  posted on  2010-12-19   8:20:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#48)

www.adl.org/learn/safety/Whysafety.asp

Thank you for the link. That is interesting. You know I'd ping you much more often if you're handle was easier to remember :)


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wudidiz  posted on  2010-12-19   8:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: All (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   9:14:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: All (#0) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   9:21:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: farmfriend, All (#21)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   9:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: wudidiz, All (#3) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   9:30:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Eric Stratton (#54)

It's a fucking outrage!

When the defenseless become the targets of their supposed protectors it's time to seek another remedy.

"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".

noone222  posted on  2010-12-19   9:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: X-15 (#5)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   9:34:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Eric Stratton (#56)

I'm sure that they'll actually find out that he had a home somewhere, and that there were copies of "Mein Kampf" and Jew Haters Anonymous magazines all over the house along side a copy of Oh How I Hate the Government, Let Me Count the Ways.

No way man, that's my house !

"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".

noone222  posted on  2010-12-19   9:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sizzlerguy, wudidiz, original intent (#11)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   9:36:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: wudidiz (#13)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   9:37:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: wudidiz, noone (#50)

I refused to watch the video of the shooting [might not have been able to if I wanted to]. I was P.O.'ed enough just reading about it, and didn't want to see this poor man offed like that.

noone, my computer is running too slowly to watch your video [I tried], and wudidiz, likewise on the liveleak recording [it was so choppy for me I couldn't make much out of it...will have to try again later]....plus I saw it after I posted my comment....so, did I jump to an unfair conclusion re the "brain-AD'L-ed cops"?

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-12-19   9:50:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#60)

The murder of the carver took place outside of the camera's view.

You need to upgrade your computer ! (If you want to) !

"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".

noone222  posted on  2010-12-19   10:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: noone222 (#61) (Edited)

You need to upgrade your computer ! (If you want to) !

will happen soon i hope....going to replace the p.o.s. printer too when i find one that prints more than 50 pages before requiring more ink.

was the cop firing towards other people or windows or a brick wall or can you tell? 4 or 5 shots...he didn't just want to stop him...he wanted to be judge, jury, and executioner....too bad for the corporate court [they're ALL private for-profit corporations... www. manta.com ...plug in the name of the court.... I'm curious what he was coming out of court FOR edit. scratch that. after i woke up from my nap i realized it was the VIDEO that was released from the court...the rest still applies...if he had lived]...they might have made some money on him [ www.redemptionservice.com.../prisoners_in_america.asp ] instead of killing him in cold blood.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-12-19   10:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: All (#0) (Edited)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   10:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: noone222 (#55)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   11:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: noone222 (#57)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   11:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: noone222 (#57)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   11:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: noone222 (#57)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   11:03:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: wudidiz (#50) (Edited)

Officer Safety and Extremists: An Overview for Law Enforcement - by THE ANTIDEFAMATION LEAGUE, TRAINER OF CORPUSA [ http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/bellringers_corner/people_of_the_lie/news.php?q=1206983637 ] LAW ENFORCEMENT

www.adl.org/learn/safety/Whysafety.asp

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www.adl.org/learn/safety/Whysafety.asp

Thank you for the link. That is interesting.

When you get a chance, peruse the other link. It explains the why and wherefore of the ADL [descendant of B'nai B'rith] and its involvement with the so-called "law" enforcement in the Judeo-British slave plantation known as America.

Take a look at this one too, on the Embassy of Heaven website, one of the groups earmarked by the ADL as "Domestic Extremists"; they may have been elevated to "Terrorists" as far as I know:

[no...I'm going to post the entire thing so people can't fail to understand the nature of the battle we're in....Eric Stratton's word "legion" is a clue]

Are Police Sent by God?

Throughout history, oppressive regimes have tried to suppress or outlaw the Bible. In the "land of the free," the adversary is more devious. Bible paraphrases change the Truth of God into lies to support the State's agenda. (See Romans 1:25)

The words chosen are not Bible words, they are statists' words. The changes are subtle, but the effects are dramatic. For instance, in the Living Bible paraphrase of Romans 13, we are told that if we refuse to obey the "law of the land," we are refusing to obey God. This is just another clever means of persuading Christians to take up citizenship with the kingdoms of the world.

The Living Bible paraphrase also says "the policeman is sent by God to help you." Is this job of "policeman" created by and for Jesus Christ, or was it created for "other purposes?"

A policeman is a mere man, but he must conform himself to the office of policeman. It is a role similar to acting in a play. A playwright creates the role and determines how a particular character will act. The State creates the role of a policeman and determines what type of behavior he is going to have, what uniform he will wear, and what laws he will enforce. Whoever takes the role of policeman, must perform the particular job as specified. Otherwise, he's fired. It does not matter what his moral convictions are. His office dictates his behavior.

Our job is to determine whether the policeman truly is sent by God, or whether he is a stranger. A stranger we are not to follow. We are to flee from him (John 10:5).

The King James Bible talks about "a minister of God" (Romans 13:4) who praises that which is good and executes wrath upon him that does evil. The police see themselves as an avenger of evildoers. Yet look at the evil acts the police themselves commit, both in Biblical times and today.

Before we examine whether or not Romans 13 is referring to modern-day police, let's first look at the role of the police during the first century. Then we can see what roles the modern day police are playing and whether they are the "ministers of God" referred to in Romans 13.

A study of the atrocities committed by the police in the Bible would be as painful as it is dramatic. Examining just the New Testament, here is a list of crimes committed by the police.

Police Crimes in Gospels

1. The massacre of the children (Matthew 2:16).
2. The execution of John the Baptist (Matthew 14:10).
3. The slaughter of the Galileans (Luke 13:1).
4. The arrest of Jesus (Matthew 26:50).
5. The striking of Jesus by an officer (John 18:22).
6. The mocking of Jesus - dressing Him in scarlet robe and crown of thorns, spitting and striking Him on the Head (Matthew 27:28-30).
7. The crucifixion (Matthew 27:35-37).

Admittedly, most of these crimes were committed by the police on the orders of the king, the governor, or the Sanhedrin. But the fact remains: the police referred to in the New Testament are often involved in carrying out very evil deeds. Observe the role the temple police and Pilate's police played in the crucifixion. In the New Testament the police contribute more often to disorder than to order. Above all, it was the police who participated in the major disorder of all time - the execution of the Son of God.

Police Crimes in Book of Acts

1. The double imprisonment of the apostles (Acts 4:3; 5:26).
2. Their scourging without definite offense being charged against them (Acts 5:40).
3. The beheading of James and arbitrary arrest of Peter (Acts 12:2-3).
4. The scourging (without judgment) of Paul and Silas (Acts 16:19-24).
5. The beating of Paul (Acts 21:32).
6. The binding of Paul so that he could be examined by scourging (Acts 22:24).

The book of Acts records the Apostles "going against the decrees of Caesar" (Acts 17:6-8) and being cast in prison. They were certainly not "obeying the civil authorities." Apostle Paul, the author of Romans 13, was imprisoned numerous times for going against the Roman State. Paul was even scourged and beheaded by the civil authorities. Was the Roman centurion who scourged and beheaded Apostle Paul the "minister of God" sent for our good, as referenced in Romans 13:4?

Apostle Paul said rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Certainly, then, Paul must have been doing evil and the rulers did not use the sword in vain against him? Or was Apostle Paul speaking in Romans 13 about different rulers and powers, separate from the secular authorities?

Modern Day Police

It appears the police of today are performing the same duties the Roman police performed almost 2,000 years ago. The City and State authorities today get disturbed when we say there is another king, one named Jesus (Acts 17:7). They send out their police to arrest us because we are going against their decrees. They cast us in prison for obeying God, rather than men, just as the Roman police did to the apostles (Acts 5:29).

In Marion County Jail, one of the guards mockingly said to Abraham, "Oh, we don't want to hurt one of His little ones." Another policeman told him, "We've been sent by God to punish those who do not obey the civil authorities."

Police officers not only do the "dirty work" for secular authorities, they also mock us and our King. They seem to be repeating the same atrocities that the first century police committed. Their job descriptions were written long before they were even born. We are not wrestling with men. We are wrestling with the office. (Ephesians 6:12)

In reality, the police then, and now, are not carrying the torch of God. They are carrying the torch of their own bellies, their own interests, not the interest of God. And they are using force to get their own way, destroying the prophets who are carrying the message of Christ. Much can be written on the subject of psychological warfare, beatings, imprisonment and other tactics used by police - both in the first century and now. In a sense, and to a lesser or greater degree, the police in every nation continue to crucify Jesus Christ.

Roman CenturionWe conclude that Paul in Romans 13 is not referring to the civil authorities as the police of today would like us to believe. Both the Roman guard who beheaded Apostle Paul and the police of today punish those who do good, while they themselves do evil. In reality, we believe Apostle Paul is referring to the fact that all of us, including the Roman guard and the police of today, are subject unto the higher powers, the heavenly ones, "for there is no power but of God." In Romans 13, Paul is instructing us to be subject unto these heavenly powers.

The Compton's Encyclopedia says under Police: "Police patrol the streets day and night looking for trouble." That sounds like the Book of Job, Chapter 1 verses 6 and 7: "One day, when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, Satan also came among them. And the Lord said to Satan, 'Whence do you come?' Then Satan answered the Lord and said, 'From roaming the earth and patrolling it.'" (NAB translation) It sounds like police are not sent by God, but by Satan.

romans13.embassyofheaven.com/arepolicesentbygod.ht...

I'm not sure if the URL is htm or html, but people might want to go to the link and see the Two-Minute Rebuttal to Romans 13.

The Jews say they are not guilty of killing Christ...the Romans did it....but who ordered the Romans?

John 19:1Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him. 2And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe, 3And said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they smote him with their hands. 4Pilate therefore went forth again, and saith unto them, Behold, I bring him forth to you, that ye may know that I find no fault in him. 5Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the man! 6When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him. 7The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.

8When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he was the more afraid; 9And went again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer. 10Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee? 11Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. 12And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.

13When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha. 14And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! 15But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

16Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away. ......

John 19:11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power [at all] against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. http://bible.cc/john/19-11.htm / http://kingjbible.com/john/19.htm

ADL/CORPUSA and policeman on trial....who has the greater sin....the policeman? ..... or those who sent him?

just wonderin'

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-12-19   11:48:58 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Eric Stratton (#66)

i appreciate your righteous anger, but remember what you were saying last week....about the "meek" inheriting the earth? you can remind me too, when i get carried away :}

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-12-19   11:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: wudidiz (#45)

Multiple times he states "he was carving that piece of wood".........which clearly refutes any claim that officer empty the chamber and ask questions later was in any clear and present danger whatsoever.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-12-19   12:10:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Eric Stratton (#63)

1. Look for problems and assume that anyone and everyone is up to no good and a criminal automatically. You must develop this 24/7/365 mindset, which is what ruins what few good people decide to become LEOs.

2. Create the problem out of an otherwise perfectly copacetic situation without any sign of a threat or danger to anyone otherwise.

3. React by creating a situation in which "you had to act."

4. Then use excessive force and impose your [personal] will. Then of course lie through your teeth, perhaps not truly a lie to you since you're somewhere between plain mental and psychotic.

5. Colleagues (and the system largely and generally speaking) then back you up implicitly and entirely while having absolutely no facts whatsoever except for your side of the story.

This IS LE today in Amerika!

That was a really nice & concise precis of the mindset that we face.

Here is the perfect program for the infantile authoritarian personalities that LE is attracting these days. This country is coming to resemble 1930s Germany in so many important ways that it makes my skin crawl sometimes.

Warning: The linked image depicts a public official engaged in unhygienic acts. The poster is not responsible for violent upset on the part of viewers.

randge  posted on  2010-12-19   13:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: randge (#71)

That was a really nice & concise precis of the mindset that we face.

Here is the perfect program for the infantile authoritarian personalities that LE is attracting these days. This country is coming to resemble 1930s Germany in so many important ways that it makes my skin crawl sometimes.

I recommend everyone spend a day in court to see with their own eyes the lowlifes LE attracts....they would also see how the courts rend the people and spit them out, and sock it to the taxpayers for the courts, judges, and lawyers to profit.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-12-19   13:07:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#72) (Edited)

I recently had a parking ticket null-pross'd. What a circus. Just a horde of the unwashed poor, about 150 of them arraigned for all manner of petty delicts committed in a world in which these people can barely keep up with the requirements of modern life like keeping car paperwork and insurance in order, keeping their kids from fighting in school and committing various minor trespasses against neighbors and authority.

All of this presided over by underlings like the black and hispanic asst. DA's and secretaries and white deputies. The judge doesn't even show for this three-ring deal. The assistant prosecutor and her assistants herd the offenders into groups, line them up and offer them each a little deal. Just a couple of suits in the audience - lawyers for those with dough or for those that couldn't be there because they were serving time elsewhere. Like I said quite a circus.

Warning: The linked image depicts a public official engaged in unhygienic acts. The poster is not responsible for violent upset on the part of viewers.

randge  posted on  2010-12-19   13:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: randge (#73)

What a circus. Just a horde of the unwashed poor, about 150 of them arraigned for all manner of petty delicts committed in a world in which these people can barely keep up with the requirements of modern life like keeping car paperwork and insurance in order, keeping their kids from fighting in school and committing various minor trespasses against neighbors and authority.

I know...so sad. I attended one court recently also attended by some Tea Partiers [first ones I had ever met]...it was annoying to hear them cluck and gasp as one black guy was arraigned for stealing something over $300 from a store [not nice to be sure, but I woke up thinking what the Bible says about stuff like that...something like they are to pay back double, maybe]. Instead, this guy faced a huge fine, 6 months to a year in jail, and the taxpayer would get stuck with the huge bill to the prison-industrial complex. I don't think the store that was robbed gets reimbursed at all, so who is this supposed to benefit?

The judges doesn't even show for this three-ring deal. The assistant prosecutor and her assistants her the offenders in groups, line them up and offer them each a little deal. Just a couple of suits in the audience - lawyers for those with dough or for those that couldn't be there because they were serving time elsewhere.

This is a new one on me...the judge not even showing up...but it figures. These courts are not Constitutional; they are Corporate "administrative bodies", attorning the chattel to The Crown, and all "crime" is COMMERCIAL, including murder, and the judges and the lawyers all get their "cut". [ www.commercialredemption.com ] The real crime is these so-called "courts".

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-12-19   14:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#69)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   14:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: randge (#71)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   15:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Eric Stratton (#76)

And the sinners always justify their meanness.

Warning: The linked image depicts a public official engaged in unhygienic acts. The poster is not responsible for violent upset on the part of viewers.

randge  posted on  2010-12-19   15:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: wudidiz (#0)

Isn't it interesting the absolutely great quality of the video? everyone shold remember that most all cops have such video whenever we are interacting with them. This can be used to our advantage as we can subpeana the tape afterwards. In this case, the guy was simply walking along immersed in what he was doing, minding his own business carving a piece of wood. he was shown doing nothing wrong. notice how the cop lunges his vehicle forward as soon as he spots the guy. the cop shot at him 5 times almost immediately upon approach. he is indeed a maniacal killer cop and what a sad story. geez. thanks for the post.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-12-19   15:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: randge (#77)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-12-19   17:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, *Jack-Booted Thugs*, all (#68) (Edited)

The verse I want you to hear (starts just before) the 2:00 minute mark...


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2010-12-19   21:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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