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Title: American soldiers describe how they can kill civilians
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Published: Dec 22, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-12-22 09:40:18 by Lysander_Spooner
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#1. To: Lysander_Spooner (#0)
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Yep, n if they murder you they have a ready AK to label you a TERRRA-IST n absolve themselves of murder, being all they can be don't ya' know ! The US military is full of nothing short of mercenaries and legionaires, hired murders and useful idiots, I celebrate each time one is taken out, and there is one more young lady back home available for us more mature, 'useless to the State' freemen.
Perhaps you might take some time to study, who they are, how they arrived there, who pays them, and who shares any and all of their guilt. I assume your view is of the lowest level grunt, the ones that provide the weekly airlift of coffins back to the US????
Sadly, most of the low level grunts have bought into the whole 'fighting for freedom' BS, but they are still useful idiots, and yes murderers, or aid and abet murderers. Most of my ire and contempt is for the politicians and so-called military leaders, also politicians, and for agent provacateurs in the military industrial complex and the yellow journalists and media who beat the drum for war. I also am contemptuous for 'Mericans who support the war, and especially the wimmins who passively 'support the troops' and the system of 'banksterism' and 'welfare Statism' that leads to these BS wars, and have no clue, can't connect the dots, wave their stupid flags while sending someone elses, or in many cases their own progeny to war to die or be permanently damaged.
I cannot agree with that but respect your view. Many here share your opinion of those men. I take note that were it not for those idiots, this corrupt war making government would be taking by force, your children or grandchildren to wage endless war. My neighbors son is on his second tour there, a surgeon, he made the mistake years ago of taking the government dollar to further his education. I have no knowledge of how and or why any of them arrived there, in that position, and I will not demean any of them. We paid them to learn to kill.
It is my belief that if it were not for these 'idiots' this corrupt war making government would not be able to wage endless war. Government exists because of the consent of the governed, if that consent is withdrawn, then no government, no endless wars. My children have withdrawn their consent as have I. We will not wage war for the criminals in government and their endless criminal wars. I pray my grandchildren will do the same.
History is replete with what happens to those that decide they will not serve. One perhaps thinks differently after they have seen men dragged from their homes for refusing to serve, think differently after they have seen fifty men at a time in leg irons and chains, airlifted direct to the front in a combat zone. Kill or be killed, reality is a stern taskmaster. They refused to serve, this government refused to listen and they lost. Very sobering sight to see your fellow countrymen taken away in chains.
One perhaps thinks differently after they have seen men dragged from their homes for refusing to serve, think differently after they have seen fifty men at a time in leg irons and chains, airlifted direct to the front in a combat zone. Kill or be killed, reality is a stern taskmaster. They refused to serve, this government refused to listen and they lost. Very sobering sight to see your fellow countrymen taken away in chains. Due to your personal experiences with the draft, I can understand your perspective. However, this isn't the 1950's or 60's when everyone grew up with the draft and it was as normal to them as apple pie and Chevrolet. That's not the way it is anymore and hasn't been for a long time. While the American people may have been for a draft right after 9/11, those days are long gone. The only reason people aren't up in arms over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan today is because they are so economically ignorant that they do not believe that the war affects them. It's real easy to be a war monger and say kill them all when you and your family are sitting safely in nowhereville, USA and others are doing the fighting and dying. That would change in a split second the instant the government tried to draft people (unless they first manufacture another 9/11). America's War of Terror in Iraq and Afghanistan would not stand up to the scrutiny the American people would give it if there was a threat to their children and any politician in Congress who tried to ramrod it through would be out looking for another job.
Way back when in the days that they were drafting men to go fight in Vietnam, I asked my dad what they'd to to you if you refused to serve when called up for the German army in WWII. He told me if you managed to evade arrest, that they would come for you with a truck and an armed detachment, haul you out of your house, read an order and shoot you on the spot. Paragraph 5 of the Emergency Code of Military Justice under the Third Reich (Kriegssonderstrafrechtsverordnung KSSVO) read like this: "All who attempt to avoid the Oath of Loyalty to Adolf Hitler or to evade military service will be punished with death." Pretty stark. Never-the-effing-less some 8000 Germans refused to fight. Most of them were Jehovah's Witnesses. Some were sent to camps and were shot there. Some went over the border and were later hunted down by the SS and shot. Many found themselves in the hands of the judicial system and were beheaded. Beheading was the statutory method execution famous for its use in the execution of Sophie Scholl and her brother Hans Scholl for the crime of antiwar leafleting. Beheading was a cumbersome procedure and most victims found themselves on the wrong end of a rifle barrel. German guillotine
I would venture none. Going back to WW2, I know of no one that did and that goes thru the present. During WW2there were many talkers, but NONE walked the walk. During Korea is when I saw men in chains and leg irons, taken directly to the front in Korea as individual replacements. THEY RECEIVED NO AID NOR COMFORT FROM THE MEN ALREADY THERE. Kill or be killed was the only order. Regardless of whether a government is good, bad, or indifferent, if the cause is survival for one and all, THERE CANNOT BE ANY MORALISTS. The Soviets after liberating their own territory from the Germans, rounded up ALL men 15 to 70, gave them some semblance of a uniform, no weapons, installed them in a line behind the charging line. Their orders were to keep charging, and when they came across a Soviet dead or wounded they were to take his weapon and keep charging. How did they enforce it? There was a third line in the rear of NKVD men that shot anyone that did not do as ordered. Compliance was always 100 per cent.
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#3. To: Eric Stratton (#1)
#4. To: Lysander_Spooner (#3)
The US military is full of nothing short of mercenaries and legionaires, hired murders and useful idiots, I celebrate each time one is taken out, and there is one more young lady back home available for us more mature, 'useless to the State' freemen.
#7. To: Cynicom (#4)
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I assume your view is of the lowest level grunt, the ones that provide the weekly airlift of coffins back to the US????
#9. To: Lysander_Spooner (#7)
Sadly, most of the low level grunts have bought into the whole 'fighting for freedom' BS, but they are still useful idiots, and yes murderers, or aid and abet murderers.
#10. To: Cynicom (#9)
I take note that were it not for those idiots, this corrupt war making government would be taking by force, your children or grandchildren to wage endless war.
#11. To: Lysander_Spooner (#10)
My children have withdrawn their consent as have I. We will not wage war for the criminals in government and their endless criminal wars. I pray my grandchildren will do the same.
#16. To: Cynicom, Lysander_Spooner (#11)
History is replete with what happens to those that decide they will not serve.
#17. To: F.A. Hayek Fan, Cynicom, Lysander_Spooner (#16)
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America's War of Terror in Iraq and Afghanistan would not stand up to the scrutiny the American people would give it if there was a threat to their children and any politician in Congress who tried to ramrod it through would be out looking for another job.
#18. To: randge (#17)
How many of our countrymen today would have this kind of courage if they were forced to make a similar decision.
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