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Title: US Army: Atheists Unfit To Serve
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Published: Dec 23, 2010
Author: Al Stefanelli
Post Date: 2010-12-23 22:02:45 by CadetD
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Did you know that the United States Army is concerned with the spiritual well-being of their soldiers? Did you know that if you choose not to believe in the supernatural that the United States Army can consider you unfit to serve? Allow me to enlighten you about an issue that was brought to my attention by my friend, Sgt. Justin Griffith, Fort Bragg, NC. The US Army distributes a mandatory survey called an SFT, which stands for “Soldier Fitness Tracker”. The purpose of this survey is to measure an individual soldier’s competency in four areas, Emotional, Social, Family and Spiritual. Justin is an atheist, as well as a highly dedicated soldier, but according to the SFT, he is “unfit” to serve specifically because he is a non-believer. Justin informs me that soldiers are directed to answer, on a scale of 1-5, some awkwardly structured questions, such as “My life will have a lasting meaning”, “I feel connected to a being that is greater than me”, “I’m a very spiritual person”. Etc. Justin was “Red Barred” in the Spiritual Competency area. According to the US Army: - A red bar means that you face some significant challenges in this area. This means that you should focus most of your attention on this area, though you should also note that placing too much emphasis here could result in other dimensions dropping. The key is to properly balance where you need the most development with the areas you are already doing well in. Here is a direct “Cut & Paste” from his survey results, under the “Spiritual Fitness” category: Spiritual fitness is an area of possible difficulty for you. You may lack a sense of meaning and purpose in your life. At times, it is hard for you to make sense of what is happening to you and others around you. You may not feel connected to something larger than yourself. You may question your beliefs, principles, and values. Nevertheless, who you are and what you do matter. There are things to do to provide more meaning and purpose in your life. Improving your spiritual fitness should be an important goal. Change is possible, and the relevant self-development training modules will be helpful. If you need further help, please do not hesitate to seek out help from the people you care about and trust – strong people always do. Be patient in your development as it will take time to improve in this area. Still, persistence is key and you will improve here if you make this area a priority. The arrogance continues… The survey further advises Sgt. Griffith that he may question his beliefs, principles and values and offered suggestions for things to do to provide more meaning and purpose in his life and advised him that improving his spiritual fitness should be an important goal. To add insult to injury, a phone number is offered to connect with a counselor who is ready to assist with a problem that requires immediate attention. To make matters worse, the survey asks for permission to use the data in an anonymously aggregated manner, meaning the results may be used by the U.S. Government and/or the public. This is not even an insinuation. The US Army has taken the position that a soldier who does not feel connected to a deity is an incomplete person, and that a lack of belief will somehow compromise their principles and values. It’s right there, in black and white. That the US Army would take such a position is deplorable, and the fact that it is mandatory appears to be a direct violation of the First Amendment of the constitution that these very soldiers put themselves in harms way to protect. It is discriminatory in every way and undermines the confidence that every soldier should have that their Government is supportive of them, regardless of their belief or disbelief in a deity. Justin is spot on when he stated that, “spirituality has nothing to do with being a soldier. That is a private matter for soldiers, and in no way should any command be evaluating how ‘fit’ a soldier is based upon his beliefs or lack thereof” Well said, my friend, and perhaps an email is in order. Their point of contact is SFT Help Desk, which can be reached via email at helpdesk@a-plus-tech.com, or you can give them a jingle at (202)580-5212. Those of us who are soldiers, former soldier and old soldiers, we have the likes former Presidents such as Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and to a degree Taft, Lincoln and Washington. Obama has exhibited some promise in the area of recognizing us as complete citizens, but the “opposition” has the senior George Bush making statements like, “I don’t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God”, and junior George taking direction from his god whether or not to drop bombs. In fact, a February 1989 letter drafted by Bush’s White House counsel reads, “As you are aware, the President is a religious man who neither supports atheism nor believes that atheism should be unnecessarily encouraged or supported by the government.” Now that our President and Commander-in-Chief has succeeded in repealing DADT, perhaps he should make it very clear to everyone that being an atheist should not have a detrimental effect our soldiers, as well. If you so choose, you can lodge your complaints to the boss here: Click here to email the President Poster Comment: Bring 'Em Home
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#1. To: CadetD (#0)
We, US, are now way beyond FUBAR. I can no longer ask God Help US, because He no longer will. RIP, US.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
Interestingly athiests and agnostics have the lowest divorce rate of any demographic. .....doesn't quite coincide with the empire's goal of destruction of the family,perhaps there is a "reason" they are being singled out for not going along with the "plan". I refute 'revealed religion' , although I do not adhere to atheism or agnosticism. I feel most closely aligned w Deism, although I find the tenants and principals of Christianity and Eastern Religions difficult to refute, for example "The Golden Rule" and "The Prince of Peace", and of course Lao Tzu's "Art of War" which is necessary to defend oneself from the falsely righteous. PEACE to all, Merry Christmas, may the new year bring blessings to all.
Repeal the repeal. Open letter to Senator McCain at theintelhub.com: GreyLmist says: December 19, 2010 at 5:20 am Thank you, Senator McCain, for your strong opposition to the undermining of our Military’s safety and morale by the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” to force the imposition of homosexual agendists and behaviors into close quarters and battlezones with heterosexual servicemembers. That anyone voted to burden the Military with such special interest complications and distractions is unconscionable and an extreme disservice to our troops who endure more than enough discomfort as it is while trying to fullfill their duties at the risk of their lives. The repeal of that legislation should mean that the Military can go back to the policy of discharging homosexuals. If it does not, please submit a bill at your earliest convenience to repeal this legislative travesty. Please submit it again and again or however many times it takes until the repeal of this repeal passes, as the House was repeatedly harrassed by the pushers there of this abomination until it was sent to the Senate.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
It looks to me that humanity has a lesson to learn about co-existence that requires us to experience this earthly life and the best / worst parts of it. If one places his/her "absolute" and "complete" TRUST in God, supported in fact by truly living according to His law, He will NEVER forsake you. Half hearted commitments work more harm than good. Most people live their lives making half-assed commitments in everything they do, especially when they are presented with a little inconvenience. (The Bible says that those who would save their lives will lose them and vice-versa). The Christian community as we see it in operation today is dedicated to nothingness that leads to the destruction of that spirit necessary to defeat tyrants or evil in general because it allows the so-called Christian to rationalize his/her weaknesses instead of correcting them. Organized religion has the most abysmal record of total failure with regard to the spiritual uplifting necessary to combat evil. To impart those spiritual traits that make it impossible for TRUE believers to have any association with evil deeds, like killing children around the world even by proxy through taxation. Some people, I think, try to rationalize God to acceptance of their own evil weaknesses through the total forgiveness doctrine of the pulpit prostitutes rather than "repentance" - which means to recognize the error and comprehend why it's ungodly, and NOT DO IT AGAIN. Modern Christianity and the hypocrites that spread it teach that "this brand of chosen people" have eternal forgiveness for torturing children. I think not. The Bible says "I wish that you were either "Hot" or "Cold" but you were "luke warm" so I spewed you out of my mouth" ! Both God and the Bible have been abused, misused and manipulated to the advancement of evil by "men". One must experience hot to know cold, good to know evil or hate to know love. One thing's for certain (I think) and that's that we're here and should make the best of it in a manner that satisfies our true sense of value. Ya know, Lod, we're where we are today because people have decided to live by "man's laws" which are usually written with some form of corruption as the underlying purpose, as opposed to the simplicity of God's Laws written for our edification and felicity. Whether the current world state of affairs was prophesied or the scriptures are being used as a playbook is open to debate but the fact of these things happening are not. Each of us has the opportunity to assess the things we really know are important to the felicity of an entire society and do them. Funding assholes like Obama, Bush, Clinton and etc., is beyond question, evil. There's little difference between these spoiled motherfuckers and the monarchs claiming divine right of rule by authority of God. They have always murdered for the sake of material conveniences. And, they have always funded their murders by taxing the very people they will send off to be killed or their sons. I say let God be true and ALL men liars.
"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".
Maybe you're talking about the Barna report. Variation in divorce rates among Christian faith groups: Denomination "Christians are more likely to experience divorce than are non-Christians," Barna Research Group, 1999-DEC-21, at: www.barna.org/ Barna no longer has this report online. However, a review of the report is at: www.adherents.com/ Lutherans 21% Variation in divorce rates by religion: Religion % have been divorced Looks like the atheists and agnostics are down there with the Catholics and Lutherans.
Used to be, if you didn't want to be drafted, you pretended to be a homosexual. Well, that won't work any more. Now, to avoid being drafted, tell them you're an atheist, that you don't pray even in foxholes and you get no holidays in December and (gasp) that you believe in evolution. Let the Creationists and Bible-thumpers be the cannon fodder.
It's amazing that the homosexual issue has had any bearing at all on military service. Every taxpayer is entitled to equal protection under the law and I believe that will soon be the ruling of the Supremes. Fags pay taxes and should be treated exactly as every other taxpayer. I oppose homosexuality and think it's abnormal, weird, against scripture and against nature. Personal thoughts or opinions about homosexuality mean nothing in a commercial jurisdiction such as the U.S. All taxpayers regardless of sexual orientation are equal. It's that simple and the Supremes are just waiting for the opportune moment to say so !
"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".
I suppose you think the obese also have some right to force themselves into the Military and disrupt readiness if they pay taxes? Should females who pay taxes be able to force themselves into combat zones because their egos are bigger than their concern for the safety and lives of others who do have enough sense to realize that they aren't physically built with the same strength as men? Should homosexuals even be allowed to become gym teachers in our schools because they pay taxes? No, that doesn't give them some right to a job where others are forced to shower around them or be failed. They don't have a right to force their differences onto Military taxpayers who will be made extra- uncomfortable and extra-distressed in close quarters because of them. Democrats can't seem to do anything ever in any office that isn't a perversion or assault against the Constitution somehow. Republicans aren't much better and they should have filibustered this bill but I will never again cast a vote for a Democrat after all they have done to betray America -- and now this strikedown of any right for heterosexuals to refuse exposure to this demoralizing imposition. Not that our electoral process isn't a shambles and rigged, but a vote for a Democrat is a ringing endorsement for Communism and the destruction of this country, imo. I hope Republicans can muster enough honor to repeal this repeal, however many times it takes. Recruitment isn't likely to be boosted by this. Quite the opposite. All troops home now, except the homosexuals who slunk in by lying.
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You could be accused of putting words in my mouth. Obesity is physically debilitating and a standard can be set for military service that requires physical fitness. On the other hand we have a government that promotes homosexuality as merely an alternative lifestyle that's "normal". Now, like I said before, I'm opposed to homosexuality, period. This isn't about moral choices when being considered legally. This is about political correctness and the implementation of a communist/fascist State. Should females who pay taxes be able to force themselves into combat zones because their egos are bigger than their concern for the safety and lives of others who do have enough sense to realize that they aren't physically built with the same strength as men? Fire Departments and Police Departments nationwide have been forced to do just that. I hope Republicans can muster enough honor to repeal this repeal, however many times it takes. Hope in one hand and shit in the other hand and tell me which hand fills first !!!!!
"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".
I guess they will be excluding pro-war "Objectivist" chickenhawks. Pity. But at least atheists/agnostics will have a reason to think twice before supporting war.
Democrats don't mind war as long as they can have big government. Republicans don't mind big government as long as they can have war. You: You could be accused of putting words in my mouth. That wasn't my intent. Sorry if it sseemed that way. Obesity is physically debilitating and a standard can be set for military service that requires physical fitness. AIDS is physically debilitating. Homosexuals and bi-sexuals are high-risk for that. People are denied the right to protect themselves from exposure by those who have it because it's duplicitously hushed-up as "policy" in this country to supposedly shield them from "discrimination" in the workplace, etc., very much unlike other communicable diseases -- Cholera and TB for instance. Blood is spilled and splattered in battle. Expecting our Military to increase its risk of AIDS by inserting a high risk carrier group of that blood-borne and bodily fluid-born disease is grounds, imo, for removal of the pushers from public offices as unfit along the lines of Amendment 25, Clause 4. You: On the other hand we have a government that promotes homosexuality as merely an alternative lifestyle that's "normal". It's not the government's job to promote homosexuality as a "normal" alternative lifestyle. It's so abnormal that it's genocidal because there would be no human life at all on this planet that way. Now, like I said before, I'm opposed to homosexuality, period. This isn't about moral choices when being considered legally. This is about political correctness and the implementation of a communist/fascist State. I agree that this is about political correctness and the implementation of a communist/fascist State. It's also about the so-called "Progressive Democrat" Commie agendists weakening our Military again. Ref: Bill Clinton's policies to deteriorate readiness. Ex: the massive de-armoring of our tanks and wheeled vehicles, the result of which was our troops trying to "up-armor" by using sandbags and scrap to protect themselves and their vehicles from explosions. Me: Should females who pay taxes be able to force themselves into combat zones because their egos are bigger than their concern for the safety and lives of others who do have enough sense to realize that they aren't physically built with the same strength as men? You: Fire Departments and Police Departments nationwide have been forced to do just that. Women with such over-inflated egos should not be allowed to endanger the lives of men and others in any profession. If they want their own combat units without any male back-up, I might not object and they shouldn't either if they really think they're the equivalent of men. Me: Should homosexuals even be allowed to become gym teachers in our schools because they pay taxes? No, that doesn't give them some right to a job where others are forced to shower around them or be failed. They don't have a right to force their differences onto Military taxpayers who will be made extra- uncomfortable and extra-distressed in close quarters because of them. No comment?
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
You're commentary is based upon a Constitution that doesn't exist or on a past reality that's being transformed whether or not we agree with the change. The bottom line is Taxpayers are citizens of the Socialist Democracy without respect to gender. This condition is our fault and if you or anyone else thinks we have the balls to change it when most are scared to death of the IRS so they keep funding all of this crazy bullshit, you're fooling yourself. I agree with you as regards homosexuality in the military as being an abomination. It's an abomination everywhere. That just doesn't have anything to do with the law we're under, which obviously isn't the CON-sti-stupid ! Lastly, it's not just demon-crats ... it's all FEDS.
"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".
This is the Constitutional Republic of America and the Military belongs to us, not them. If special interest Socialists want to live in Bizzaro World, they should move. It's not our job to placate women in any field who have a grievance with the Creator or their parents over being made differently than men and so not equally equipped for some jobs. The Common Defense that we provide for doesn't have to incorporate them everywhere or homosexuals and their deviant abnormality at all. That would be Uncommon Defense -- against common sense, the general welfare, domestic tranquility, that sort of thing. I think its a great idea for the Constitution to be read to Congress in Congress. I've been thinking they all ought to have a reading of it handy on video or audio or have it read to them by marching protestors so that they can be more mindful of it. Here's some comments at the breitbart.tv site that I liked: Const_Libertarian: So, since the LAW of gravity has been around for billions of years, should we start holding onto the desk so we do not float away higonp 128p: Maybe this reading will remind them of the words in their oath. "I, (name of Member), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God." turbotigerjaws: Poor little Ezra finds the words confusing! Maybe if someone gave him a copy of the Constitution written in bright, colorful letters with fun illustrations of bears and pigs and billy-goats wearing "people clothes" he could understand it better. What sound does a firetruck make? What sound does a firetruck make, Ezra!?!? WHOOO WHOOOO WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Thale_Taxurfeet: Makes one wonder what framework of law and government boy genius really and truly envisions in the dark and quite moments when his mind is free from the distractions of dreaming of sucking up to benign socialists world rulers. Such vacuous little fellows those Journolistas. swarty: Ahhh the idiotic bliss of liberal brainwashed youth. I guess 2,000 pages of lawyer double speak to pass a single bill is what he considers "easy to understand". Sharprain: I don't claim to be the most educated man in the world, but, I find the Constitution to be quite easy to read. It is very clear language, unlike the bills coming out of Congress these days – 2000+ pages of labyrinthine legalese. The left doesn't like the Constitution because it is a list of negative rights telling the government what it CANNOT do. PaBowHunter: one of the most important amendments. Guess which one.....
------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
#2. To: CadetD (#0)
#3. To: CadetD (#0)
[Obama] has succeeded in repealing DADT
Hold your homosexuals! Military ban not over yet
#4. To: Lod (#1)
I can no longer ask God Help US, because He no longer will.
#5. To: Lysander_Spooner (#2)
Interestingly athiests and agnostics have the lowest divorce rate of any demographic.
(in order of decreasing divorce rate) % who have been divorced
Non-denominational ** 34%
Baptists 29%
Mainline Protestants 25%
Mormons 24%
Catholics 21%
Jews 30%
Born-again Christians 27%
Other Christians 24%
Atheists, Agnostics 21%
#6. To: CadetD (#0)
#7. To: Shoonra (#6)
Used to be, if you didn't want to be drafted, you pretended to be a homosexual. Well, that won't work any more.
#8. To: noone222 (#7)
All taxpayers regardless of sexual orientation are equal. It's that simple and the Supremes are just waiting for the opportune moment to say so !
#9. To: GreyLmist (#8)
I suppose you think the obese also have some right to force themselves into the Military and disrupt readiness if they pay taxes?
#10. To: CadetD (#0)
If you believe in small government, then you shouldn't be in the White House.
#11. To: noone222 (#9)
#12. To: GreyLmist (#11)
#13. To: noone222 (#12)
The bottom line is Taxpayers are citizens of the Socialist Democracy
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