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Title: Of course we women don't want a male pill
Source: Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a ... nd-happy-little-accidents.html
Published: Dec 24, 2010
Author: By Leah Hardy
Post Date: 2010-12-24 13:05:17 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 496
Comments: 8

- it would end those happy little 'accidents'

No surprise: Women like to choose when and how many babies they have Right now, 60 men in Manchester and 20 in Edinburgh are temporarily sterile. They have all agreed to be part of a trial for a ‘promising’ new male contraceptive jab.

Each man has had two hormone injections which will prevent him making sperm for about two months.

We haven’t heard from the chaps involved, but the scientists are certainly jolly excited about it all.

And even though the jab is nominally aimed at men, according to its inventors, it’s really women who will benefit.

Apparently, we have been crying out for years for hormonal contraceptives for men.

Or as Professor Richard Anderson of the University of Edinburgh says: ‘When we carried out surveys of women, they were enormously enthusiastic.

‘The single most common reason was that they wanted to share the responsibility for contraception.’

Which, on the face of it, seems entirely reasonable.

After all, why wouldn’t all women want their men to share the side-effects of taking hormones and the responsibility for preventing unwanted pregnancy?

And while men might be a bit wussy about being pumped full of hormones (welcome to our world), being sterile and enduring side-effects that might include being spotty and grumpy, surely there will be a huge demand for the jab from women who are fed up with being in sole charge of contraception and who will rush to sign up their reluctant partners?

Well, personally, I’m not so sure.

Yes, in theory it’s all great. Egalitarian, sensible and oh so very modern. But are we women really crazy about handing over control of our fertility to men, even men we love and live with?

If all women had to wait for men to feel broody (and for this to coincide with his jab wearing off), the birth rate would drop like a stone

Of course, there is the ‘would you trust him to take it?’ issue.

It goes like this: women are the ones who suffer the torments of pregnancy and the burden of child-rearing, so have the most to lose if their partner is a bit slapdash with taking his pill or going back to the doctor for his top-up hormone injection.

And, so the theory goes, men are so hopeless at remembering things and famously reluctant to visit their GP that we won’t trust him to use contraception properly, and this makes it a non-starter.

Which is all very well and, up to a point, true.

Some women are both desperate not to have any more babies, and married to useless men — and those two facts may well be connected.

But there’s another problem with male contraception that is rather less talked about. And that’s whether most women really are happy giving away our power over a part of our lives that tends to mean more to us than to men.

Most women I know would be utterly horrified if their men chose new curtains without consulting them, and would be shocked to their very core if their husband came home with a new sofa, or even a radical new haircut.

More...I chose to have a baby without a father and it's brought me huge joy - but also chaos, exhaustion and despair

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So how would we feel if our man wandered off to the GP and booked himself in for a jab without consulting us?

To be honest, I’m not sure that most women would like that at all. In my experience, the stuff of domestic life is jealously guarded by most women.

A friend of mine grumbles about her husband’s unwillingness to deal with the tiny details of their children’s lives, yet if pushed she will admit she rather relishes her role as family lynchpin.

Can men be trusted to take contraception like women on the pill do? (posed by model)

And there can be nothing more intimate regarding that than a woman’s fertility, and I am sceptical whether lots of us will want to let go of our responsibility for it.

Or, to put it bluntly, if highly effective, side-effect and rubber-free male contraception becomes universal, it could mark the end of the very common phenomenon of the not-entirely-accidental-surprise-baby and the one-bottle- of-wine-too-many-baby which happens to the most sensible of couples.

Because, let’s face it, if all women had to wait for men to feel broody (and for this to coincide with his jab wearing off), the birth rate would drop like a stone.

I am told that there are men out there who want nothing more than to persuade or even trick their unwilling wives into having more babies, and thus will be sent packing to the doctor to get jabbed (will they get a certificate to prove it, I wonder?), but, frankly, these blokes are surely in the minority.

A rather more common scenario — and one that is a constant on the parenting site Mumsnet — is a woman desperate for a first, second or third child with an unwilling and very determined man.

This situation, especially if the woman senses time is running out, tends to cause not just sorrow and anguish, but also a sort of furious frustration. A sense that her human rights have been unfairly and unreasonably denied her. And while it is taboo to say it, plenty of women do feel, in a primal way, that they should have the last word on how many babies they have, hence the large number of ‘surprise’ third babies around.

It is rare for women to actually lie about using contraception, but not so rare for women to cry, beg, sulk, withhold sexual favours or just stop using contraception and so leave it up to the man to take the only precautions open to him which, luckily, plenty of men don’t like doing.

As I say, this is pretty taboo stuff. But one woman who is happy to voice her belief that men really shouldn’t have too much say in the matter is mother-of-four Jerry Hall.

In her role as agony aunt, she unrepentantly told a woman who longed for a third child in the face of her husband’s opposition: ‘Honey, remember, the more you make love, the more chance there is of a happy accident… Chances are he will get used to it.

WHO KNEW? Approximately 3.7 million women in Britain are on the Pill — and 64 per cent of women aged between 20 and 24 take it

‘If not, having a baby later in life is an especially good idea: you will get alimony pretty much until your pension kicks in.’ Shocking? Maybe. But then again, Jerry is pretty chuffed with her four kids, and Mick Jagger?

Well it was fun while it lasted, but you get the feeling that Jerry believes men may come and go, but children are for ever.

Which brings us to another problem with the male jab.

While it might be a great thing in a committed relationship, where a woman really doesn’t want more babies and has suffered unpleasant side-effects from using contraception (and should probably be compulsory for certain Premiership footballers), for most women, the idea of a single man who is so opposed to babies that he has the jab is incredibly unattractive.

The same goes for a vasectomy. Most single women would run a mile from a man who’s had one, even if they don’t particularly long for children, because we don’t really like our men making unilateral decisions, whether that’s about curtains or babies.

However, I’ve known women who have been keen for their husbands to get snipped, not just because it means they can stop using contraception, but because, as one confessed to me: ‘What I like about his vasectomy is that now he can’t leave us and go off and have babies with someone else.'

And let’s face it, if he’s sterile, he isn’t likely to find a woman half my age to run off with, as she’d be put off by it.

If the jab is reversible, well, I wouldn’t have that security.’


Poster Comment:

I wonder wha kind of a society we'd have if men had 100% control over reproduction?

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

I wonder what kind of society we would have if all women were as dysfunctional as the one who wrote this piece?

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-24   13:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#0)

I wonder wha kind of a society we'd have if men had 100% control over reproduction?

Well, if men had a birth control pill, the abortion rate and out of wedlock birth rate would go down.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-24   13:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#1)

I wonder what kind of society we would have if all women were as dysfunctional as the one who wrote this piece?

We are already there.

PaulCJ  posted on  2010-12-24   13:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: PaulCJ (#2)

Well, if men had a birth control pill, the abortion rate and out of wedlock birth rate would go down.

The interesting thing about that is that in the not-so-recent past both abortion and birth control were illegal. And in a divorce, the children were almost always given to the men.

All of it was prevent single women from having children and tryig to raise them by selves, because of the horrendous social consequences.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2010-12-24   13:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Turtle (#0)

I wonder wha kind of a society we'd have if men had 100% control over reproduction?

I think the population would be a lot lower. I also think men should allowed to "keep" babies the woman wants to get rid of.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2010-12-24   16:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle (#0)

but not so rare for women to cry, beg, sulk, withhold sexual favours

LOL.

Solutions for Ireland. Say NO to the IMF/World bank. Default on our debt. Print our own debt free currency. Nationalise the trillion euros worth of gas and oil off our west coast. Take back our fishing (200 billion worth). Get our farmers growing again. Done deal if our politicians had the backbone. ~ Jim Corr

irishthatcherite  posted on  2010-12-24   18:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#1)

I wonder what kind of society we would have if all women were as dysfunctional as the one who wrote this piece?

Probably the same one we have today as there are a huge number of women out there who are completely dysfunctional.

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mirage  posted on  2010-12-25   12:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mirage (#7)

It is sad really - both for women and men. While women had a legitimate beef the women's rights movement was subverted more into Lesbian Rights and women became confused about who and what they were - not all thankfully, but I would say a majority. The fad of rich women having children without benefit of marriage was another wrong turn as an intact family is the safest haven for children. Of course this was all helped along by the government providing financial support to unwed mothers to the extent that it encouraged it, and that I believe was intentional. The target all along has been the nuclear family which provides social cohesiveness.

"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances toward our Founding Fathers, toward his parents, toward our elected officials, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It's up to you, teachers, to make all of these sick children well by creating the international child of the future." Chester Pierce, Harvard University, Professor of Education and Psychiatry, Emeritus, to a 1973 Education Seminar in Denver.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-25   13:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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