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Title: "No refusal" DUI checkpoints could be coming to Tampa
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URL Source: http://www.wtsp.com/news/topstories ... .aspx?storyid=165079&catid=250
Published: Dec 30, 2010
Author: WTPS.com
Post Date: 2010-12-30 12:31:09 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 329
Comments: 24

Tampa, Florida-- With New Year's Eve only days away, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration expects this to be one of the deadliest weeks of the year on the roads.

But now a new weapon is being used in the fight against drunk driving.

It's a change that could make you more likely to be convicted.

"I think it's a great deterrent for people," said Linda Unfried, from Mother's Against Drunk Driving in Hillsborough County.

Florida is among several states now holding what are called "no refusal" checkpoints.

It means if you refuse a breath test during a traffic stop, a judge is on site, and issues a warrant that allows police to perform a mandatory blood test.

It's already being done in several counties, and now Unfried is working to bring it to the Tampa Bay area.

"I think you'll see the difference because people will not drink and drive. I truly believe that," she said.

Not everyone is on board, though.

DUI defense attorney Kevin Hayslett sees the mandatory blood test as a violation of constitutional rights.

"It's a slippery slope and it's got to stop somewhere," Hayslett explained, "what other misdemeanor offense do we have in the United States where the government can forcefully put a needle into your arm?"

The federal government says Florida has among the highest rates of breathalyzer refusal.

"Now you've got attorneys telling their clients, don't blow, don't blow! Because we know from the results from these machines that they're not operating as the state or the government says they're supposed to operate," said Stephen Daniels, a DUI consultant and expert witness.

Supporters, though, say you could see the "no refusal" checkpoints in the Bay area by October.

"We don't want to violate people's civil rights. That's the last thing we want to do, but we're here to save lives," Unfried said.

She adds that this type of checkpoint would be heavily advertised, with the goal of deterring any drunk driving.

U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood has recently said he wants to see more states hold similar programs.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Hillsborough County.

Lots of nogs, spics & hillbillies

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-12-30   13:05:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Flintlock (#1)

So they should be used to needles?

I zip by that part of town where I-4 meets 75, then I nose my ship due South x 175 miles.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-30   13:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

You vill suhbhmit sssitizen.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-30   13:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

So they should be used to needles?

More than most but that still doesn't make these checks IMO Constitutional. I lived in Tampa for about 7 months and didn't like it. Things are nicer on the other side of the Bay, but the cops are still pricks.

I'll tell you this, if this goes state wide, I'm outa here.

I nose my ship due South x 175 miles.

Be careful in Collier County, they have the ticket/surveillance cameras up and running at traffic lights and the cops have a reputation for being pricks there too.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-12-30   13:27:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#3)

You vill suhbhmit sssitizen.

Here is one cops opinion on the law.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2010-12-30   13:42:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent (#3)

You vill suhbhmit sssitizen.

Really, not much difference at all. But we're FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE........

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-30   14:38:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Flintlock (#4)

Not a lot of places to hide, save for the hills and dales of rural America. FL better wise up. If they want snowbirds, and our $, they better not nickle and dime us with tickets. I'll buy a damn sunlamp and stay home.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-30   14:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

"We don't want to violate people's civil rights. That's the last thing we want to do, but we're here to save lives," Unfried said.

The same rationale that TSA spews to get their filthy hands in the peoples pants at airports. If we had honest members of our government arresting members of the bush clan for their 9-11-01 attack on America and Americans, we could all keep our liberties and get to watch a few public hangings. Then maybe they would quit slaughtering and blaming Arabs for all our problems and spend all the defense buget on infrastructure and end unemployment at the same time.

Wouldn't it be great to hear bush's last words before dangling at the end of a rope along with cheney and the rest of the criminal neo-cons? I bet they wouldn't be "Mission Accomplished".

LACUMO  posted on  2010-12-30   17:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent, Jethro Tull (#3) (Edited)

Check out these wankers, giving milk & cookies to the cops at checkpoints

http://www.tampatac.org/events.htm


Linda Unfried, back row next to Tubby.

Another photo ---- too big to post

http://www.tampatac.org/MADD%20Banquet%202008.jpg

She's on the right

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-12-30   18:58:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Flintlock (#9)

The Happy Slave Club.

"Massuh is soooooo good to us'n."

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-30   19:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Flintlock (#9)

I'd rather take my chances against drunk drivers, than live with the highway gestapo. The drunks can't call for backup.


Waiting too late to oppose tyranny has always led to bloodshed.
Hair Salon Salisbury, CT Black denim Jackets and vests

Critter  posted on  2010-12-30   19:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#5)

I still want to slap yuktard half way to the moon, and then put him to work digging latrines in February in Alaska, with an ice-pick and a teaspoon.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-30   19:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Critter (#11)

Now that's an interesting thought - a drunk calling other drunks as back-up. Not too much different than the 'roid heads calling another whacked 'roid head as a back-up.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-30   19:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#13)

Cops scare me more than criminals and drunks.


Waiting too late to oppose tyranny has always led to bloodshed.
Hair Salon Salisbury, CT Black denim Jackets and vests

Critter  posted on  2010-12-30   19:19:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Critter (#14)

Ditto. A criminal can't beat you up and then testilie that you attacked them the way cops do routinely. So, you get beat up or tazed and then get to go to jail for having enjoyed the "privilege. Although, any more, the difference between a cop and a street thug is only that the cops are better organized.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-12-30   19:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Critter (#11)

I'd rather take my chances against drunk drivers, than live with the highway gestapo.

Bump that

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-12-30   21:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: LACUMO (#8)

Wouldn't it be great to hear bush's last words before dangling at the end of a rope along with cheney and the rest of the criminal neo-cons? I bet they wouldn't be "Mission Accomplished".

good one. lol.

christine  posted on  2010-12-30   21:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Flintlock (#9)

Check out these wankers, giving milk & cookies to the cops at checkpoints

No cop I knew would dare eat food given to them by strangers. But then again, things were simpler in the ghetto. They all hated us because we were white, and we all hated them because they were mostly unapprehended felons.

Boy the way Glenn Miller played.....

Songs that made the hit parade.....

Guys like us we had it made......

Those were the days!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-12-31   13:29:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

They all hated us because we were white, and we all hated them because they were mostly unapprehended felons.

That's a keeper.

If they ever do a cop remake of Apocalypse Now, someone will utter those words.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2010-12-31   16:20:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Unfried is fried, and Refried.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2010-12-31   16:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#17)

good one. lol.

Happy New Year 4um members..>>!!!

www.policeabuse.20fr.com/polic e.htm

sizzlerguy  posted on  2010-12-31   16:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

we live in tyranny. I hope yall understand... It is not coming....it is not partially here...THE USA IS UNDER TYRANNY we live in a police state... The US constitution is dead.

The senate passed taxation bills that arose from the senate.

Collecting rain water is illegal.

If you do not have you papers traveling abroad is outlawed.

Me and you that live in the USA are living under tyranny.

titorite  posted on  2010-12-31   16:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: titorite (#22)

Collecting rain water is illegal.

Where I live, the mayor poisons the Sea Gulls nests, and it's illegal to feed Sea Gulls.

www.policeabuse.20fr.com/poli ce2.htm

sizzlerguy  posted on  2010-12-31   16:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sizzlerguy (#23)

holy shit...we really REALLY need to start fireing back...burning down....we need to be proactive...because what we are doing now aint working...it is past time to fire back...

titorite  posted on  2011-01-01   1:49:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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