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Title: Told 'Ya So: Tea Party = DOUCHE NOZZLES
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://market-ticker.org/
Published: Jan 6, 2011
Author: Karl Denninger
Post Date: 2011-01-06 05:42:34 by Kamala
Keywords: None
Views: 457
Comments: 42

Told 'Ya So: Tea Party = DOUCHE NOZZLES

It took less than six hours for me to be able to wave the "told 'ya so" flag:

An early push by New Jersey Republican Rep. Scott Garrett to add some “teeth” to the GOP’s new Constitution rule requiring every bill cite its specific constitutional authority failed in a Republican conference meeting Tuesday.

What was the rule? That you couldn't claim "general welfare" or "necessary and proper" as justification - you had to point to an actual enumerated power. The very so-called "Tea Party" and "Conservative" members of Congress could not even agree to cite a specific clause in The Constitution that enabled legislation to be brought to the floor.

Oh, it gets better. The actual proposed rule would not have prevented passing something that nobody could manage to find a clause in The Constitution that enabled the bill. It in fact only required that a point of order be raised if the language was not present, allowing a gigantic and overwhelming 20 minutes of debate (10 each side) before a simple majority could vote to table the objection and move forward anyway - Constitution be damned.

The Committee rejected that watered-down milquetoast rule!

That would be enough to call the Tea Party and so-called "Conservatives" we sent to Washington a failure on the day they took their oaths of office all by itself.

But no, that wasn't enough for them. They had to make damn sure that I could get out the megaphone and holler from the rafters that every single thing we were sold by these clowns during the campaign - the entire Palin thing, the entire "we're gonna take back Washington!" screed was an out-and-out fraud from the very first breath that passed their lips.

Remember, the claim by the Republicans (including but not limited to The Tea Party) was that they would cut the budget by $100 billion? Which, I might remind you, would have been less than five percent of the deficit this year.

Well, it turns out that was a lie too.

Even some Tea Party types who are sticking to the original goal concede that it'll be hard to reach as long as the GOP exempts -- as it plans to -- funding for defense, homeland security, veterans and entitlements.

So we simply exempt the more than half the budget, then say "well, we can't get there."

By how much can't we get there?

And over in the Senate, a top GOP aide told me that the real bottom line is a max of $30 billion for the rest of this fiscal year.

What was the deficit again for the calendar year that just closed?

Oh, that was $1,700 billion, give or take a few.

So we're talking about.... one point seven six percent of the deficit?

Yes, 1.76%.

Really.

Washington spends that $30 billion, incidentally, in roughly three days.

LIARS and FRAUDS, every last one of you.

Anyone remember this Ticker?

I, and FedUpUSA, ought to sue anyone using this moniker for their so-called "political affiliation" for defamation.

Yeah, that's a joke.

But so are you.

All of you.

Especially Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Bob Barr, and douchebag groups such as the "Tea Party Patriots."

Or the follow-ups to it, like, for instance, this?

But telling me that I'm voting to "fix things" if I go to the polls and vote Republican in a couple of weeks is a flat lie. I will get no such thing, as the standard-bearer for the Right-Side Party, Tea or otherwise, at this point is Sarah Palin who I remind you suspended HER campaign along with McCain's to blow Lloyd Blankfein and company in 2008.

Right up above is your "fix" that we voted for. That America sent The Faux Tea Party to Washington DC. The above is the "result" of "America speaking loudly at the ballot box."

I was called all sorts of names by other so-called "Tea Party" folks after my string of posts, from people who said I had no right to speak at all and those who simply said "you're wrong - we'll do it - you'll see."

Admit it you jackasses, every last one of you: You were dead ****ing wrong, you were lying to the American public the entire time, and I was right.

It took less than SIX HOURS after the swearing in of the new Congress to prove you were full of crap. You couldn't even manage to wait for one day before repudiating the two most-important things you claimed you were going to do - quit blowing money we don't have and actually follow The Constitution.

When the market figures out that irrespective of the grandiose claims you were completely full of crap, expect the bond market to go bananas. Or Bernanke will go bananas and so will the commodity markets.

Doesn't really matter - either way the American People - especially the middle class and below - are going to get financially ****d.

Again.

And this time, it's your - and only your - responsibility, because you told us you'd stop it

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#1. To: Kamala (#0)

FED = BAD

"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".

noone222  posted on  2011-01-06   5:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Kamala (#0)

Requiring a citation to the Constitution and yet cutting out words that the Founders deliberately put in to enable the govt to handle unexpected (in 1789) and new situations is not just counter-productive but it completely defeats the intent of the Constitution itself.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-01-06   7:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Kamala (#0)

Well yeah hell, what do you expect?? You asking an institution that has spent the last two centuries gathering power and doing so by steadily enlarging its power to tax and to spend. Now you ask this beast to starve itself. A hundred million is just the ReadiWhip on its desert. The machine balks at even that paltry level of abstinence. There are just no constitutional restraints.

And balance of powers? The exec and Supreme Courts live at the largess of Congress. No one can rein them in - not the president nor the judiciary nor the people. This is an engine and no brakes and nothing will stop it until we find ourselves in a ditch or up against an abutment. It will take a lot more than a republican reformation nailing theses to the doorway to change the way things work. Congress won't change its ways I'm afraid until it is coerced to do so by outside forces.

Warning: The linked image depicts a public official engaged in unhygienic acts. The poster is not responsible for violent upset on the part of viewers.

randge  posted on  2011-01-06   8:07:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Kamala (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-06   8:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#1)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-06   8:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: randge (#3)

System-1

Voters-0

You lose again suckers.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-06   8:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

FED = associated with Satan

F.E.D. - Freakin Evil Demons

"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".

noone222  posted on  2011-01-06   8:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#6)

System-1

Voters-0

The hot dog was seven bucks, but I got a free program to stick on the fridge.

Warning: The linked image depicts a public official engaged in unhygienic acts. The poster is not responsible for violent upset on the part of viewers.

randge  posted on  2011-01-06   8:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge (#8)

I did not get on the bandwagon and never listened to the Pied Pipers for one reason...

When the money appeared, that meant the system was in charge.

VOTERS WILL NEVER LEARN THAT.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-06   8:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#6)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-06   8:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: noone222, Eric Stratton (#7)

FED = BAD

FED = associated with Satan

F.E.D. - Freakin Evil Demons

Fed = jews, israel, zionists [JIZ]

As with any infestation, the solution lies in eradication.

Until that happens, it's all just pointless whining.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2011-01-06   8:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#6)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-06   8:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eric Stratton (#12)

Eric...

I boarded Pauls bandwagon because it was obvious his money was coming from the bottom feeders such as me. I took a chance and lost.

In politics all Pied Pipers have to be suspect because the SYSTEM owns nearly everyone.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-06   8:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Esso (#11)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-06   8:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

Funny, that didn't take long this time. The swine had barely been seated.

And according to INO headlines this morning, led by Rep. Mike Pence [homosexual, pederast, zionist, Likud, IN], that there will be no more federal money to help the ailing states, but the money spigots to Israel & the jewWars will be opened wide.

Commandment One of the New judeo Century in Amerikka: Thou shalt not allow ANY benefit to the citizens.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2011-01-06   8:58:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom, All (#13)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-06   9:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Esso (#15)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-06   9:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eric Stratton (#16)

Not sure what your point is.

Who gave whom money is irrelevant.

Eric...

You mite try reading without looking for a "POINT".

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-06   9:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#18)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-06   9:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Eric Stratton (#19)

Sorry Cyni, I tend to look for posts with relevance.

Eric...

I think and write in short sentences, brief ten cent words, never try to have a hidden point, no hidden meanings, always as simple as possible.

Thanks...

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-06   9:14:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#13)

I boarded Pauls bandwagon because it was obvious his money was coming from the bottom feeders such as me. I took a chance and lost.

In politics all Pied Pipers have to be suspect because the SYSTEM owns nearly everyone.

Yep, me too ... no mas !

"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were (ever) our countrymen!”".

noone222  posted on  2011-01-06   9:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Eric Stratton (#4)

Mine's been flyin' on high since Tits became affiliated with it!

I can actually only read so much of this type of bullshit too. These assklowns are either stupid or liars. My money's on liars.

Actually, make that fucking swine liars.

Nice to know you don't hold back.


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farmfriend  posted on  2011-01-06   9:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Esso (#11)

As with any infestation, the solution lies in eradication.

Agreed.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-06   9:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Kamala (#0)

Sometimes Denninger is good. But we must remember that he is Jewish.

The Tea Party which I oppose because they are Zionists just like Denninger is a minority in the House Republican Conference. As I remember it, the Protocols tell us that one tactic was to mislead people with impossible rhetoric.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2011-01-06   9:37:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Horse (#24)

The Tea Party........is a minority in the House Republican Conference.

No need to muddy the waters with the truth.

Let the Three (gov) Stooges have their pro democrat circle jerk

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2011-01-06   9:49:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Cynicom (#20)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-06   10:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: farmfriend (#22)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-06   10:05:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Kamala (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-06   10:06:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Eric Stratton (#26)

I mean these are substantive forums.

Therein lies my failing, I am not substantive enough, whatever that means.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-06   10:11:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: ghostdogtxn (#28)

There are rumors of a rising tide of Paulites, we have to be on the lookout for such.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-06   10:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#30)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-06   10:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: ghostdogtxn (#31)

There are rumors of a rising tide of Paulites, we have to be on the lookout for such.

You shouldn't bother cyni.

No humor this morning ghost???

Day off to a bum start????

Jethro is not here to zing.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-06   10:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#29)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-06   10:28:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Kamala (#0)

funding for defense, homeland security, veterans and entitlements.

Well look you simply can't have a multiculti empire without paying for the dole, paying off the military and its industrial remoras, and of course paying the spies.

Tea Party: The last gasp of the ASSUMPTION of white supremacy.
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Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2011-01-06   12:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Eric Stratton (#10)

Funny, that didn't take long this time.

People are just noticing faster.

Tea Party: The last gasp of the ASSUMPTION of white supremacy.
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Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2011-01-06   12:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#35)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-06   12:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Kamala (#0)

While I fully expect the Congressional members of the tea party to prove themselves to be nothing more than your normal, everyday Israel-first, big government Republicans, it is not fair to blame the tea party for the actions of the Republican leadership/establishment. The tea party is a very small minority in the House of Representatives and has little to no voice.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-06   13:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Shoonra, all (#2)

Requiring a citation to the Constitution and yet cutting out words that the Founders deliberately put in to enable the govt to handle unexpected (in 1789) and new situations is not just counter-productive but it completely defeats the intent of the Constitution itself.

Ah, I do so delight in your sophistry. Why does it surprise me not that you should lie among the hosts of the "living Constitution" i.e., "the Constitution means whatever we want it to mean" crowd?

Of course a document of limited and enumerated powers is restrictive, it is so by definition, and by intent.

If one wishes to change some aspect of that hallowed covenant there are legitimate means to do so. However, to those who wish to enforce their individual preferences and advantages upon others such restrictions are "inconvenient". After all a document, contract or covenant, which binds one party to a limited range of action prevents, as it well should, the independent action which abrogates that covenant.

"Necessity' is the plea for every infringement of human liberty; it is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." ~ William Pitt, the Younger

Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government. ~ James Madison

... the Constitution of the United States, having delegated to Congress a power to punish treason, counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States, piracies, and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations, and no other crimes whatsoever; and it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," therefore the act of Congress, passed on the 14th day of July, 1798, and intituled "An Act in addition to the act intituled An Act for the punishment of certain crimes against the United States," as also the act passed by them on the -- day of June, 1798, intituled "An Act to punish frauds committed on the bank of the United States," (and all their other acts which assume to create, define, or punish crimes, other than those so enumerated in the Constitution,) are altogether void, and of no force; and that the power to create, define, and punish such other crimes is reserved, and, of right, appertains solely and exclusively to the respective States, each within its own territory.
~ Thomas Jefferson, 1789

"Apply this standard to most of the statutes passed during the last 60 years or to the federal agencies and regulations established during that period, and it is clear why constitutionalists see a conspiracy to incrementally overthrow the Constitution. The constitutional guarantees of civil rights won't protect us if the restrictions on governmental powers are not strictly enforced. Those who imagine they can support only the provisions they like and ignore violations of others are deluding themselves." ~ Jon Roland

"In matters of Power, let no more be heard of confidence in men, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." ~ Thomas Jefferson

"If in the opinion of the people the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates, but let there be no change by usurpation; for though this in one instance may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed." -- George Washington, Farewell Address, September 17, 1796

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-06   13:08:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent, Shoonra (#38)

My assumption is that the counselor is speaking of the necessary and proper clause of the Constitution, which the statists on both sides of the aisle use to give themselves unlimited power.

The amendment process gets in the way of their ability and desire to control every aspect of our lives.

I've always found it interesting how the statists on one side of the aisle twist the intent of the Constitution in order to grab the power they want and then bitch when the statists on the other side of the aisle twist the intent of the Constitution to fit THEIR needs. Meanwhile, both sides eventually enslave us all.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-06   13:18:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#39)

I've always found it interesting how the statists on one side of the aisle twist the intent of the Constitution in order to grab the power they want and then bitch when the statists on the other side of the aisle twist the intent of the Constitution to fit THEIR needs. Meanwhile, both sides eventually enslave us all.

And that is just the point. In order to enforce their will upon others they twist and pervert clear text attempting to infer some other meaning supportive of their incursions against liberty.

The written constitution is an "inconvenience" only to those who have designs other than those forthrightly stated.

"The Constitution is a written instrument. As such, its meaning does not alter. That which it meant when it was adopted, it means now." -- South Carolina v. United States, 199 U.S. 437, 448 (1905)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-06   13:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Kamala (#0)

No disrespect intended Mark, but I’m not going to bother reading this article because I glanced over the comments and I’m excellent at connecting the dots. That said, the political fact of life in AmeriKa today is that one wing of the National Political Bird is going to have a lot to say about how you live your life. I’m intentionally keeping foreign policy to the side, as both wings are the same, IMO. Good luck to whomever has a *viable* working plan on how to kill the MIC, et al. back to your domestic tranquility. I read a post of yours a few months back where you said you did well last year trading ETFs. God bless you, and I wish it were me, but tell me something, would you rather have had the Ds retain power and pay a higher tax rate on your earned income come April 15th, or are you happier the Rs forced O’Bingo’s hand and caused him not to bump them up? We can all agree the less money that flows into central government the smaller it grows. Smaller is better, and the rate of decline will never satisfy some, but some folks would rather have a comet strike the planet than celebrate even a modest victory. What else can we expect from the tea party? I expect net neutrality to die on the vine, which will keep forums like this up and running. Just take a peek into the Nest to see how they feel about free speech. Is the trade out of Barney Frank for Ron Paul a plus? I know you and I know your answer. What I’m trying to say is that rather than smother the baby in the cradle, it might be wise to take a look at who in political power despises the tea party and then judge them by their enemies.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-01-06   13:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Jethro Tull (#41)

What else can we expect from the tea party? I expect net neutrality to die on the vine, which will keep forums like this up and running. Just take a peek into the Nest to see how they feel about free speech. Is the trade out of Barney Frank for Ron Paul a plus? I know you and I know your answer. What I’m trying to say is that rather than smother the baby in the cradle, it might be wise to take a look at who in political power despises the tea party and then judge them by their enemies.

Bravo!

But the Stooges on this thread aren't interested in the truth. They want to poison the minds of lurkers on behalf of their gov handlers.

As far as free speech goes, you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater and at this point, spreading lies about the TeaParty is tantamount to treason.

Ban'em. Ban'em all.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2011-01-06   17:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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