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Title: Well now it's official: The Pedophile Priest Protector In Charge claims jew tribal "god" responsible for "big bang". (my title, it's a little more accurate)
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110106/lf_nm_life/us_pope_bigbang
Published: Jan 6, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-01-06 13:42:52 by PSUSA
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Views: 621
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VATICAN CITY (Reuters) – God's mind was behind complex scientific theories such as the Big Bang, and Christians should reject the idea that the universe came into being by accident, Pope Benedict said on Thursday.

"The universe is not the result of chance, as some would want to make us believe," Benedict said on the day Christians mark the Epiphany, the day the Bible says the three kings reached the site where Jesus was born by following a star.

"Contemplating it (the universe) we are invited to read something profound into it: the wisdom of the creator, the inexhaustible creativity of God," he said in a sermon to some 10,000 people in St Peter's Basilica on the feast day.

While the pope has spoken before about evolution, he has rarely delved back in time to discuss specific concepts such as the Big Bang, which scientists believe led to the formation of the universe some 13.7 billion years ago.

Researchers at CERN, the nuclear research center in Geneva, have been smashing protons together at near the speed of light to simulate conditions that they believe brought into existence the primordial universe from which stars, planets and life on earth -- and perhaps elsewhere -- eventually emerged.

Some atheists say science can prove that God does not exist, but Benedict said that some scientific theories were "mind limiting" because "they only arrive at a certain point ... and do not manage to explain the ultimate sense of reality ..."

He said scientific theories on the origin and development of the universe and humans, while not in conflict with faith, left many questions unanswered.

"In the beauty of the world, in its mystery, in its greatness and in its rationality ... we can only let ourselves be guided toward God, creator of heaven and earth," he said.

Benedict and his predecessor John Paul have been trying to shed the Church's image of being anti-science, a label that stuck when it condemned Galileo for teaching that the earth revolves around the sun, challenging the words of the Bible.

Galileo was rehabilitated and the Church now also accepts evolution as a scientific theory and sees no reason why God could not have used a natural evolutionary process in the forming of the human species.

The Catholic Church no longer teaches creationism -- the belief that God created the world in six days as described in the Bible -- and says that the account in the book of Genesis is an allegory for the way God created the world.

But it objects to using evolution to back an atheist philosophy that denies God's existence or any divine role in creation. It also objects to using Genesis as a scientific text.

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#1. To: All (#0)

"Contemplating it (the universe) we are invited to read something profound into it: the wisdom of the creator, the inexhaustible creativity of God,"

The kike god really is creative, at finding ways to murder people, and figuring out ways to destroy things.


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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley

Jesus Never Existed

PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-06   13:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: PSUSA (#1)

If you are the atheist, anti-God poster you claim, you should be jumping right in front of this parade. Organized religion is peopled with you types than those who believe in the One True Living God.

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

Brian D  posted on  2011-01-06   13:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PSUSA (#0)

the only reason il papa said anything at all is because he gets really worked up every time he hears the term 'big bang'....

makes him think of happier days at the boys summer camp, and his most favorite time of the year, Fleet Week.

Thou hast power only to act not over the result thereof. Act thou therefore without prospect of the result and without succcumbing to inaction. The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it...Perform your obligatory duty, because action is indeed better than inaction...Sever the ignorant doubt in your heart with the sword of self-knowledge. Observe your discipline. Arise.

The Bhagavad Gita

gengis gandhi  posted on  2011-01-06   14:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian D (#2)

Organized religion is peopled with you types than those who believe in the One True Living God.

That's a great way to place the blame on others, the ones that are not the "true believers". You can then blame the "infiltrators", those wascally "Satanists", the "illuminati" etc . That way you can claim to be above it all, because you're a True Believer, whatever that means.

What a racket. But the racket is in the holey bobble, so it must be true, because the bobble says it's true.

.


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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley

Jesus Never Existed

PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-06   14:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PSUSA, Flintlock (#4) (Edited)

Atlas Shrugged, John Galt's Speech
Ayn Rand

______

"“Death is the standard of your values, death is your chosen goal, and you have to keep running, since there is no escape from the pursuer who is out to destroy you or from the knowledge that that pursuer is yourself. Stop running, for once- there is no place to run-stand naked, as you dread to stand, but as I see you, and take a look at what you dared to call a moral code.

“Damnation is the start of your morality, destruction is its purpose, means and end. Your code begins by damning man as evil, then demands that he practice a good which it defines as impossible for him to practice. It demands, as his first proof of virtue, that he accept his own depravity without proof. It demands that he start, not with a standard of value, but with a standard of evil, which is himself, by means of which he is then to define the good: the good is that which he is not.

“It does not matter who then becomes the profiteer on his renounced glory and tormented soul, a mystic God with some incomprehensible design or any passer-by whose rotting sores are held as some inexplicable claim upon him-it does not matter, the good is not for him to understand, his duty is to crawl through years of penance, atoning for the guilt of his existence to any stray collector of unintelligible debts, his only concept of a value is a zero: the good is that which is non-man.

“The name of this monstrous absurdity is Original Sin.

“A sin without volition is a slap at morality and an insolent contradiction in terms: that which is outside the possibility of choice is outside the province of morality. If man is evil by birth, he has no will, no power to change it; if he has no will, he can be neither good nor evil; a robot is amoral. To hold, as man’s sin, a fact not open to his choice is a mockery of morality. To hold man’s nature as his sin is a mockery of nature. To punish him for a crime he committed before he was born is a mockery of justice. To hold him guilty in a matter where no innocence exists is a mockery of reason. To destroy morality, nature, justice and reason by means of a single concept is a feat of evil hardly to be matched. Yet that is the root of your code.

“Do not hide behind the cowardly evasion that man is born with free will, but with a ‘tendency’ to evil. A free will saddled with a tendency is like a game with loaded dice. It forces man to struggle through the effort of playing, to bear responsibility and pay for the game, but the decision is weighted in favor of a tendency that he had no power to escape. If the tendency is of his choice, he cannot possess it at birth; if it is not of his choice, his will is not free.

“What is the nature of the guilt that your teachers call his Original Sin? What are the evils man acquired when he fell from a state they consider perfection? Their myth declares that he ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge-he acquired a mind and became a rational being. It was the knowledge of good and evil-he became a mortal being. He was sentenced to earn his bread by his labor-he became a productive being. He was sentenced to experience desire-he acquired the capacity of sexual enjoyment. The evils for which they damn him are reason, morality, creativeness; joy-all the cardinal values of his existence. It is not his vices that their myth of man’s fall is designed to explain and condemn, it is not his errors that they hold as his guilt, but the essence of his nature as man. Whatever he was-that robot in the Garden of Eden, who existed without mind, without values, without labor, without love-he was not man.

“Man’s fall, according to your teachers, was that he gained the virtues required to live. These virtues, by their standard, are his Sin. His evil, they charge, is that he’s man. His guilt, they charge, is that he lives.

“They call it a morality of mercy and a doctrine of love for man. No, they say, they do not preach that man is evil, the evil is only that alien object: his body. No, they say, they do not wish to kill him, they only wish to make him lose his body. They seek to help him, they say, against his pain-and they point at the torture rack to which they’ve tied him, the rack with two wheels that pull him in opposite directions, the rack of the doctrine that splits his soul and body.

“They have cut man in two, setting one half against the other. They have taught him that his body and his consciousness are two enemies engaged in deadly conflict, two antagonists of opposite natures, contradictory claims, incompatible needs, that to benefit one is to injure the other, that his soul belongs to a supernatural realm, but his body is an evil prison holding it in bondage to this earth-and that the good is to defeat his body, to undermine it by years of patient struggle, digging his way to that gorgeous jail-break which leads into the freedom of the grave.

“They have taught man that he is a hopeless misfit made of two elements, both symbols of death. A body without a soul is a corpse, a soul without a body is a ghost-yet such is their image of man’s nature: the battleground of a struggle between a corpse and a ghost, a corpse endowed with some evil volition of its own and a ghost endowed with the knowledge that everything known to man is nonexistent, that only the unknowable exists.

“Do you observe what human faculty that’ doctrine was designed to ignore? It was man’s mind that had to be negated in order to make him fall apart. Once he surrendered reason, he was left at the mercy of two monsters whom he could not fathom or control: of a body moved by unaccountable instincts and of a soul moved by mystic revelations-he was left as the passively ravaged victim of a battle between a robot and a dictaphone.

“And as he now crawls through the wreckage, groping blindly for a way to live, your teachers offer him the help of a morality that proclaims that he’ll find no solution and must seek no fulfillment on earth. Real existence, they tell him, is that which he cannot perceive, true consciousness is the faculty of perceiving the non-existent-and if he is unable to understand it, that is the proof that his existence is evil and his consciousness impotent."

http://amberandchaos.com/?page_id=106

Thou hast power only to act not over the result thereof. Act thou therefore without prospect of the result and without succcumbing to inaction. The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it...Perform your obligatory duty, because action is indeed better than inaction...Sever the ignorant doubt in your heart with the sword of self-knowledge. Observe your discipline. Arise.

The Bhagavad Gita

gengis gandhi  posted on  2011-01-06   14:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: gengis gandhi (#5)

What a ****ing mess lol


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2011-01-06   14:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: gengis gandhi (#5)

Careful, there.

I openly stated that I am a Satanist. You, OTOH, will get that label whether you like it or not if you keep posting truth like this. Because xtians cannot handle the truth.

I understand their hostility, because in the past I too was hostile to those that tried to disprove xtianity. That is the power of the programming. It's probably the most insidious, despicable type of programming out there, and once in it, not too many can leave it.

.


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Jesus Never Existed

PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-06   14:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: PSUSA (#0)

The only certainty concerning the origins of the universe and life itself is that we will never know the truth.

Nothing comes from nothing, yet nothing is still something, the universe has no end, but it must end somewhere, and what begins where the universe ends? And if God created the universe, what created God? What created whatever created God?

It's all a great big circle jerk that the human mind will ever be able to comprehend.


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Critter  posted on  2011-01-06   14:41:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Critter (#8)

Yeah.


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wudidiz  posted on  2011-01-06   14:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: wudidiz (#6)

it really is an outrage....the OT is all pretty much alien/demiurge false god imposter claptrap.

my favorite one is to ask the fundamentalpatients that IF man is so evil, so weak, so terrible, why would God bother sending the Christ for a thing of little value?

IF man is so shitty, what about the declaration "These things and greater ye shall do in my name" and "Does your own book not say 'ye are as gods'."?

how does that work?

any SERIOUS control system is going to tell the controllees that they are powerless, and that the ruler/govt/god/priesthood is all powerful.....(see The Wizard of OZ, tyranny, totalitarianism, various organized religions dogma, socialist/collectivst governments, etc)

And now the lyric from America's 'Tin Man' has a whole different tone....

But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man / That he didn't, didn't already have

oooh look! i think i see a pattern!

Thou hast power only to act not over the result thereof. Act thou therefore without prospect of the result and without succcumbing to inaction. The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it...Perform your obligatory duty, because action is indeed better than inaction...Sever the ignorant doubt in your heart with the sword of self-knowledge. Observe your discipline. Arise.

The Bhagavad Gita

gengis gandhi  posted on  2011-01-06   14:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PSUSA (#7)

they used to call them heretics.

pretty sure the sanhedrin thought the same.

and remember boys and girls, when you kill someone, you now have someone waiting for you on the other side, with a lot of time to get ready.

(they don't tell you that one in thug school)

Thou hast power only to act not over the result thereof. Act thou therefore without prospect of the result and without succcumbing to inaction. The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it...Perform your obligatory duty, because action is indeed better than inaction...Sever the ignorant doubt in your heart with the sword of self-knowledge. Observe your discipline. Arise.

The Bhagavad Gita

gengis gandhi  posted on  2011-01-06   14:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Critter (#8)

It's all a great big circle jerk that the human mind will ever be able to comprehend.

Agreed. But some sure do seem to understand it. They are so very sure of what happened, and they are just as sure of what will happen in the future.

They don't seem to have the ability to say "I don't know", as if their ego demands that they must claim to know it all, and it's somehow shameful to say "I don't know".

Maybe that's how I busted out of that mess. I asked too many questions.

.


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Jesus Never Existed

PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-06   14:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: PSUSA (#12)

rand and objectivism would say that matter has always existed, it only changes form.

you cannot 'un make' a rock, or whatever....you cannot cause anything to stop existing, only change forms, etc.

so all that exists has always existed. basically, its law of the conservation of energy.

as for me, i have no idea about these things. I have no idea what is in the town a few miles away....I don't need to pretend I somehow know the secrets of creation and the universe but fail to know the easy stuff.

another view, for arguments sake, to the question of 'was the universe created by God?' could be that the universe IS God, or a part of it.

Thou hast power only to act not over the result thereof. Act thou therefore without prospect of the result and without succcumbing to inaction. The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it...Perform your obligatory duty, because action is indeed better than inaction...Sever the ignorant doubt in your heart with the sword of self-knowledge. Observe your discipline. Arise.

The Bhagavad Gita

gengis gandhi  posted on  2011-01-06   15:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Critter (#8)

Nothing comes from nothing, yet nothing is still something, the universe has no end, but it must end somewhere, and what begins where the universe ends? And if God created the universe, what created God? What created whatever created God?

It's all a great big circle jerk that the human mind will ever be able to comprehend.

The current physical universe came into being a little less than 14 billion years ago. It had a beginning.

However, for it to have been created, SOMETHING had to have existed before it.

If you can lump all of the universe's life force, energy, and mass into one little pin head, think of how much room there is beyond the physical universe for OTHER "pin heads" to exist.

I'd say, that which exists BEYOND that, where those "pin heads" are infinite in number, could only be termed "God" for lack of a better word.

It IS mind blowing, and beyond human comprehension.

That is why man has relied on various fables to explain it, since he will never be able to understand it for what it truly is.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-01-06   15:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: gengis gandhi (#13)

another view, for arguments sake, to the question of 'was the universe created by God?' could be that the universe IS God, or a part of it.

I can see that.

It certainly doesn't fit the definition of the petty, jealous, monstrously evil kike-invented "god" that goes so far as to demand that they not eat shrimp.

.


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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley

Jesus Never Existed

PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-06   15:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: gengis gandhi (#13)

another view, for arguments sake, to the question of 'was the universe created by God?' could be that the universe IS God, or a part of it.

It is said that God is everywhere, and that would explain why. I'd be more apt to think the universe is PART of God, where God exists BEYOND the current physical universe.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-01-06   15:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: PSUSA (#15)

the gnostic texts, banned by the catholic church, had your view as well, that this entity was a 'demiurge', a false god with an identity crisis and control issues.

false god=jackass alien OZ type figure

Thou hast power only to act not over the result thereof. Act thou therefore without prospect of the result and without succcumbing to inaction. The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it...Perform your obligatory duty, because action is indeed better than inaction...Sever the ignorant doubt in your heart with the sword of self-knowledge. Observe your discipline. Arise.

The Bhagavad Gita

gengis gandhi  posted on  2011-01-06   15:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: gengis gandhi (#5)

Rand was a Jew atheist.

Only naive goyim can't see through her.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-06   15:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Turtle (#18)

Rand was a Jew atheist.

Is that similar to a Christian atheist?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-01-06   15:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker (#19)

Is that similar to a Christian atheist?

A lot worse.

When Jew atheists took over Russia they killed 20 million people.

Rand was insane. Had she gained political power, she would have killed millions of people.

Her real name was Alice Rosenbaum.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-06   15:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: gengis gandhi (#17)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egregore is another possibility


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”I say to each man and woman, you are unique and sovereign, the center of a universe. However right I may be in thinking as I do, you may be equally right in thinking otherwise. You can only accomplish your object in life by complete disregard of the opinions of other people.“ - Aleister Crowley

Jesus Never Existed

PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-06   15:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Turtle, FormerLurker, all (#20)

In the inevitable progression of the stopped clock you have had one of your days.

Rand appears to have been strongly influenced by Nietzsche and Freud. Nietzsche was a dead end because despite the eloquent ramblings his philosophy was monodimensional i.e., it revolved around the amoral concept that what was "good" for a given individual was the only thing that mattered, and that the strong have the prerogative of making the "weak" submit. That is the basic philosophy of what we call the NWO i.e., that the mere acquisition of power confers rightness on the actions of the one who wields power. This, of course, is in total disregard for all others, and all other forms of life and existence. It is materialism taken to its logical extreme. In the end it is destructive even of the individual as no man is an Island, and no man exists in splendid isolation absent congress with his fellows. In fact such an existence would be not only a total bore, but likely drive the individual (more) insane. Witness what happens when you put someone in an isolation tank: Disorientation, followed by eventual insanity.

Dear Alice was as well a dead end and while weaving a web that has superficial coherence it is, in the final analysis, also a dead end because it treats the individual as an actor independent of the world in which he or she lives. Since that is not reality, it is a faulty analysis. An analysis based upon a false premise is always false. Garbage In = Garbage Out.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-06   15:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#22)

Nietzsche was a dead end

Nietzsche was the greatest prophet of the 19th and 20th century. He foretold every bad thing that happened in the 20th century.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-06   15:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: gengis gandhi (#5)

“The name of this monstrous absurdity is Original Sin.

Following Jesus' ministry, reincarnation and the path of personal Christhood was taught for several hundred years by Christian gnostics, until their ministry was shut down by church hierarchy for human power and political gain.

In the second century AD, Origen taught on the preexistence of the soul and explained that earth was a place for man to experience free will. His defense of personal spiritual freedom threatened church fathers like Jerome, who held a far more orthodox viewpoint and professed in the physical resurrection of the dead down to the "flesh, blood, bones and genital organs." Origen was eventually arrested, tortured, and imprisoned by Jerome.

A century later, Libyan priest Arius' defense of man's Christ potential led to the fourth century Nicean council and Nicean creed, where church fathers voted to set Jesus apart from other men as the "only begotten son of God." Remaining gnostics were martyred or fled, Origen's work was declared anathema and destroyed, and secret gospels and apocryphal texts were buried. Church father St. Augustine spun the doctrine of original sin to shame the soul, to rob man's awareness of innate Christ potential and to substitute a personal punishing God for impersonal divine laws of karma and reincarnation.

Through the centuries, these political moves were forgotten and self- serving human dogma became spiritual foundation. Millions of mystics who sought the earlier mysteries, like the Cathars in France, were persecuted as heretics and their legacy destroyed. (Their history is recorded in Reincarnation: The Missing Link in Christianity by Elizabeth Clare Prophet.) And sadly to this day, in many Catholic and Protestant churches, an orthodox interpretation of Jesus as "only son" and of an arbitrary and despotic God made in man's image yet prevails.

I will tell you the decree of the Lord. He said to me, "You are my son; today I have begotten you." —Psalm 2

Those who pursue the path of personal Christhood understand that the only begotten son of God refers to the Christ consciousness, not to Jesus as a flesh and blood idol. Scriptures about other "sons of God" and about becoming a son of God can be found in both the old and new testaments regarding King David, Melchisedec and others, as well as in Jewish texts like the Book of Levi. In Galatians 4:5, Saint Paul teaches that Jesus came as the "firstborn" to "enable us to be adopted as sons." Hebrews 7:28 states "the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated forevermore." And Revelation 21:7 declares, "He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."

In the New Testament, Jesus commends us to address God as "our Father" and tells us that those who do the will of God are his brothers and sisters. When Jesus said, "I AM the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh to the Father but by me (John 14:6), he was speaking of the Christ consciousness also referred to by Paul when he said, "Let the mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus" (Phil. 2:5) and "we have the mind of Christ (1Cor. 2:16).

The Christ consciousness is the way, the truth and the life that saves us from our human ignorance and separation from God. Souls become immortal when they fulfill this consciousness and reunite with the presence of the I AM THAT I AM revealed to Moses in the burning bush. This is what Jesus was referring to when he said, "whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die (John 11:26) and when he told the parable of the vine and the branches.

Verily, verily I say to you, he that believeth in me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. —John 14:12

Today, with the rediscovery of these ancient teachings and the freedom of religion secured for us by our founding fathers, we have an unparalelled opportunity to right all wrongs, to follow in the footsteps of our elder brother, master, savior and teacher, to become Christ in our own right and to ascend back to God.

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-01-06   17:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: gengis gandhi (#5)

“The name of this monstrous absurdity is Original Sin.

I was born without it.

I was born pure in the image of ODIN!!!

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan

Flintlock  posted on  2011-01-06   17:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: angK (#24)

yep.

the bible thumpers have no idea how the thing came to be, who put it together, what was left out, and how the whole package deal came to be.

still can't find the passage where it instructs building churches and asking self appointed god brokers to tell them what to do, believe, say, pray, act, etc.

Thou hast power only to act not over the result thereof. Act thou therefore without prospect of the result and without succcumbing to inaction. The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it...Perform your obligatory duty, because action is indeed better than inaction...Sever the ignorant doubt in your heart with the sword of self-knowledge. Observe your discipline. Arise.

The Bhagavad Gita

gengis gandhi  posted on  2011-01-06   17:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: gengis gandhi (#26)

still can't find the passage where it instructs building churches and asking self appointed god brokers to tell them what to do, believe, say, pray, act, etc.

LOL, You can look in the babble until your eyes bleed, but you won't find any instructions like that. Must have been an oversight by the authors...er, ahem, perhaps God overlooked that issue, considering that He was in charge.

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-01-06   20:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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