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Title: U.S. teenager tortured in Kuwait and barred re-entry into the U.S.
Source: salon.com
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/g ... d/2011/01/06/kuwait/index.html
Published: Jan 7, 2011
Author: Glenn Greenwald
Post Date: 2011-01-07 22:00:54 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 370
Comments: 30

Gulet Mohamed is an 18-year-old American citizen whose family is Somalian. His parents moved with him to the U.S. when he was 2 or 3 years old, and he has lived in the U.S. ever since. In March, 2009, he went to study Arabic and Islam in Yemen (in Sana'a, the nation's capital), and, after several weeks, left (at his mother's urging) and went to visit his mother's family in Somalia, staying with his uncle there for several months. Roughly one year ago, he left Somalia and traveled to Kuwait to stay with other family members who live there. Like many teenagers who reach early adulthood, he was motivated in his travels by a desire to see the world, to study, and to get to know his family's ancestral homeland and his faraway relatives.

At all times, Mohamed traveled on an American passport and had valid visas for all the countries he visited. He has never been arrested nor -- until two weeks ago -- was he ever involved with law enforcement in any way, including the entire time he lived in the U.S.

Approximately two weeks ago (on December 20), Mohamed went to the airport in Kuwait to have his visa renewed, as he had done every three months without incident for the last year. This time, however, he was told by the visa officer that his name had been marked in the computer, and after waiting five hours, he was taken into a room and interrogated by officials who refused to identify themselves. They then handcuffed and blindfolded him and drove him to some other locale. That was the start of a two-week-long, still ongoing nightmare during which he was imprisoned for a week in an unknown location by unknown captors, relentlessly interrogated, and severely beaten and threatened with even worse forms of torture.

Mohamed's story was first reported this morning by Mark Mazzetti in The New York Times, who spoke with Mohamed by telephone, where he is currently being held in a deportation center in Kuwait. I also spoke with Mohamed this morning, and my 50-minute conversation with him was recorded and can be heard on the recorder below. Mazzetti did a good job of describing Mohamed's version of events. He writes that during his 90-minute conversation, "Mr. Mohamed was agitated as he recounted his captivity, tripping over his words and breaking into tears."

That was very much my experience as well. It may be difficult at times to understand all of what Mohamed recounts because he is emotionally distraught in the extreme, but it's nonetheless very worth listening to what he has to say, at the very least to portions of it. Mohamed says he was repeatedly beaten with a stick on the bottom of his feet and his palms, hit in the face, and hung from the ceiling. He also says his captors threatened him with both the arrest of his mother and electric shock, and told him that he should forget his family.

He still does not know why he was detained and beaten, nor does he know what is happening to him now. Indeed, although Mazzetti writes that he was detained and beaten by Kuwait captors, Mohamed actually has no idea who was responsible, and told me that at least some of the people interrogating him spoke English. He has been told that he will be deported back to the U.S., but is now on a no-fly list and has no idea when he will be released. American officials told Mazzetti that "Mr. Mohamed is on a no-fly list and, for now at least, cannot return to the United States." He's been charged with no crime and presented with no evidence of any wrongdoing.

This event is significant for multiple reasons, many of them obvious. The questions Mohamed was repeatedly asked -- including two days ago by American embassy officials and FBI agents who visited him in the detention facility -- focused on whether he knew Anwar al-Awlaki, the American cleric in Yemen who has become an obsession of the Obama administration, as well as why he went to Yemen and Somalia. Kuwait is little more than a subservient American protectorate, and the idea that they would do this to an American citizen without the American government's knowledge, if not its assent and participation, is implausible in the extreme. That much of the information they sought from Mohamed is of particular interest to the U.S. Government only bolsters that likelihood.

Independent of all that, the U.S. Government has an obligation to protect its own citizens. Mohamed described to me how both embassy officials and the FBI expressed zero interest in the torture to which he had been subjected during his detention. The U.S. Government has said nothing about this matter, and refused to comment about Mohamed's treatment to The New York Times.

All of this underscores the rapidly expanding powers the U.S. Government and law enforcement agents within the country are seizing without a shred of due process. For the government to put an American citizen on the no-fly list while he's traveling outside the U.S. is tantamount to barring him from entering his own country -- a draconian punishment, involuntary exile, meted out without any due process. In June, the ACLU filed a lawsuit on behalf of several citizens and legal residents who -- like Gulet Mohammed -- have been literally stranded abroad and barred from returning with no hearing, simply by being placed secretly on the no-fly list. Add to that the growing seizures of the laptops and other electronic equipment of American citizens re-entering the country without any warrants -- or even yesterday's ruling from the California Supreme Court that police officers can search and seize someone's cell phone without a warrant when arresting them -- and (even leaving aside the administration's ongoing due-process-free prison camps and assassination programs) these are pure police state tactics.

The Bush-era torture scandal was as much about its use of torture-administering allies as it was the torture regime which the U.S. itself created. In the face of these credible allegations -- just listen to this American teenager talk and assess how credible he is -- the Obama administration, at the very least, has the obligation to inform the public about whether this is true, what its role was, if any, and what it's doing to investigate and protest this abuse of its own citizen.

My discussion with Mohamed can be heard by clicking PLAY on the recorder below. I'm posting it in its entirety without edits, except for the last minute or so where we discussed how we came to speak, information I'm withholding at his request.

UPDATE: Mohamed's family has now secured a lawyer for him, Gadeir Abbas of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, who has written a letter to the DOJ raising all the right questions and demanding all the right assistance. Nobody should have to ask the government to provide this form of assistance to an American citizen under these circumstances.

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#1. To: All (#0) (Edited)

While many may be tempted to fuck him because he's just a Muslim dog who deserves death in the name of Jesus Christ and all that is good, holy and righteous, I have another take on it.

Today it's Gulet Mohamed in a foreign country. One day it will be John Smith at your local police station. If anyone has any doubts as to whether or not a cop would act in this manner towards an American citizen I would recommend going to LP and reading the comments of GrandIsland. He and cops like him will have no problems in torturing those who refuse to bow to the boot of the the federal government.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-07   22:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#1)

Like most of things salon.com does, they lie through their teeth about this person. They call him a U.S. citizens, but they provide no evidence to show that to be the case.

He is not a U.S. citizen. He was not born in the U.S., nor was he naturalized as a U.S. citizen. Therefore he is not our problem.

Hayek, we are in a depression right now. We do not have the resources to take care of our own, let alone foreigners. The way you talk, you sound like you would gladly starve U.S. citizens to help foreigners.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-07   23:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: PaulCJ (#2) (Edited)

He is not a U.S. citizen. He was not born in the U.S., nor was he naturalized as a U.S. citizen.

Prove it loudmouth.

Hayek, we are in a depression right now.

As usual you have no idea what you are speaking of.

The way you talk, you sound like you would gladly starve U.S. citizens to help foreigners.

The way you talk you would happily hold down your mother as your local police rape her and then give them a high five when they are finished.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-07   23:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#3)

1. Prove it loudmouth.

2. As usual you have no idea what you are speaking of.

3. The way you talk you would happily hold down your mother as your local police rape her and then give them a high five when they are finished.

1. Second sentence of the article: His parents moved with him to the U.S. when he was 2 or 3 years old, and he has lived in the U.S. ever since.

Meaning he born outside the U.S. He is not our problem.

2. You are an ignorant fool that refuses to acknowledge that nation is collapsing.

Someone is going to have to be sacrificed. There is not enough resources to go around.

Better is be non-citizens than citizens of this nation.

You would glad starve to death million of U.S. citizens to feed foreigners.

3. No, that would the jackass that you are projecting your own wishes on others.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   0:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PaulCJ (#4) (Edited)

1. Second sentence of the article: His parents moved with him to the U.S. when he was 2 or 3 years old, and he has lived in the U.S. ever since.

The first sentence of the article: Gulet Mohamed is an 18-year-old American citizen whose family is Somalian.

What more, if you do a simple Google search you will see that every single article states that he is an American citizen. If you have proof that he is not, then show it or STFU.

If he were not an American citizen I wouldn't give a shit because it would be just another third world niggar. The fact that he IS an American citizen matters because as I said in my first statement, today it is Gulet Mohamed but one day it will be John Smith. Of course that's what you long for.

2. You are an ignorant fool that refuses to acknowledge that nation is collapsing.

Oh I have no doubt that the nation is and will continue to collapse, however, that is a different subject. We are NOT in a depression and an uneducated moron claiming that we are doesn't make it so.

You would glad starve to death million of U.S. citizens to feed foreigners.

3. No, that would the jackass that you are projecting your own wishes on others.

You are so fucking stupid that you don't even know that the quote you are trying to attribute to me was your own, you ignorant dip shit. This is what I said to you:

"The way you talk you would happily hold down your mother as your local police rape her and then give them a high five when they are finished. "

Now unless you can prove that every news source carrying this story is lying about Gulet Mohamed being an American citizen, then fuck off.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-08   0:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: PaulCJ, all (#4)

Thursday, January 06, 2011

Letter to DOJ from Gulet Mohamed's lawyer

Mr. Eric W. Treene Special Counsel for Religious Discrimination U.S. Department of Justice Civil Rights Division 950 Pennsylvania Ave., NW Washington, DC 20530

Via E-Mail: xxxx.xxxxx@xxxx.xxx

Dear Mr. Treene:

As you may recall, I copied you last week on a letter sent to the government of Kuwait requesting an investigation into allegations that Kuwaiti security personnel recently detained and tortured my client, Mr. Gulet Mohamed, an American citizen whose family lives in Alexandria, Virginia. [Copies of the letter to the Kuwaiti government were also sent to the White House and the State Department.]

Mr. Mohamed reports that he went to the airport in Kuwait on December 20, 2010, to renew his visitor's visa to continue his Arabic studies in that country. He said that he had previously renewed his visa without incident. However, while waiting for his visa, Mr. Mohamed communicated via e-mail with his brother in the United States, indicating that there was a delay in the processing of his visa and that he suspected something was amiss. That was the last communication anyone had with Mr. Mohamed for more than a week.

In a conference call with me and other CAIR officials on December 28, 2010, Mr. Mohamed said he was taken into custody, blindfolded, handcuffed, and taken to a waiting SUV. Mr. Mohamed was reportedly held for more than a week at an undisclosed location by individuals who told him they were with the "CIA of Kuwait." He states that during his lengthy interrogations, he was beaten in the face at least "one hundred times" and was hit with sticks on other parts of his body. This alleged torture occurred while Mr. Mohamed was blindfolded, handcuffed and unaware of his location or the identity of his interrogators.

The manner of his detention and the questions asked of Mr. Mohamed indicate to him that he was taken into custody at the behest of the United States. Over the weekend, Mr. Mohamed was visited by three FBI agents. He informed the agents that he had legal representation and that he did not wish to answer the agents' questions. The agents allegedly informed Mr. Mohamed that they could "facilitate" his release if he agreed to speak to them, but otherwise he might remain in custody for a lengthy period of time.

This troubling incident raises a number of questions that deserve answers.

1. Was Mr. Mohamed taken into custody at the behest of American authorities? If so, what was done to protect Mr. Mohamed from possible abuse by Kuwaiti security personnel?

2. Were American authorities aware of the torture allegedly being inflicted on Mr. Mohamed?

3. When American authorities were made aware of the allegations of torture by CAIR's letter to the Kuwaiti government, what actions were taken to protect Mr. Mohamed?

4. Have American authorities contacted the government of Kuwait to protest the alleged torture of an American citizen?

5. Did the FBI agents who sought to question Mr. Mohamed use his continued detention as a pressure tactic to force him to give up his constitutional right to silence or to have an attorney present when questioned?

Whatever concerns American or Kuwaiti officials may have about Mr. Mohamed, no one should be subjected to the kind of mistreatment that has been alleged in this case.

I therefore respectfully request that your department launch a full civil rights investigation of this incident and that appropriate actions be taken based on the results of that investigation.

I also request that the Department of State be urged to offer Mr. Mohamed all the protections due any American citizen and that his release be requested and facilitated.

Thank you in advance for your prompt attention to this important matter. You may contact me by phone at xxx-xxx-xxxx (mobile), xxx-xxx-xxxx (office) or by e-mail at gabbas@cair.com.

Sincerely,

Gadeir Abbas, Esq.

Cc: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, President Barack Obama, FBI Director Robert Mueller, Rep. James Moran, Sen. James Webb

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-08   0:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#5) (Edited)

What more, if you do a simple Google search you will see that every single article states that he is an American citizen. If you have proof that he is not, then show it or STFU.

All I have seen from you is trolling against Americans, so you should STFU.

The fact of the matter is you hate Americans. You want Americans to starve. You only support this foreigners before he was born outside the country.

Scumbags like you who falsely accuse others of raping their mothers don't have the right to speak.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   0:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: PaulCJ (#7)

All I have seen from you is trolling against Americans, so you should STFU.

Oh I see. You cannot find any information to support your made-up statement so you are trying to distract from that fact by making up even more bullshit.

The fact of the matter is you hate Americans. You want Americans to starve. You only support this foreigners before he was born outside the country.

LOL! Your logic is impeccable as usual. I post a story about the US government torturing American citizens and you claim I want to starve Americans.

By the way, "You only support this foreigners before he was born outside the country," makes no sense whatsoever. Your grammar is as poor as your logical thinking skills.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-08   0:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#8)

You crossed a line, monster.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   0:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: PaulCJ (#9)

You crossed a line, monster.

Since you approve of the government torture of American citizens, feel free to contact the DHS and request that I be renditioned.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-08   0:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#10)

Since you approve of the government torture of American citizens, feel free to contact the DHS and request that I be renditioned.

I never said that, lying scumbag. But you clearly put the needs of foreigners above natural born citizens.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   0:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: PaulCJ (#11) (Edited)

I never said that, lying scumbag.

Anytime anyone posts an article critical of the government, you show up insulting them and making up out to lunch accusations about that person like you did in your very first post to me. My opposition to seeing American citizens being tortured by their own government means that I want to see America citizens starve? Really? And you have the nerve to call me a lying scumbag?

You are a troll who comes here to disrupt. You are a B-version of yukon. A government-loving buttsniffer who's here to distract people from the subject of the articles posted.

But you clearly put the needs of foreigners above natural born citizens.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever. The man is an American citizen who has lived here since he was a toddler. He's as American as you are and is not a foreigner.

So according to you, it's perfectly OK for the government to torture American citizens as long as they were born in another country. If that's how you feel that's your right, but my disagreement with you does not mean that I want Americans to starve. That is a stupid statement.

On top of that, due to the nature of government, if it is willing to torture foreign born American citizens today, it is only a matter of time until it will be willing to torture natural born citizens. It's truly a shame that you are unable to understand that and chose to attack me for voicing a very real possibility.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-08   1:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#12)

Anytime anyone posts an article critical of the government, you show up insulting them

No, that would be you. Anytime someone questions the anti-american bigotry on this board, you show up insulting them.

If you hasn't posted this insult, (The way you talk you would happily hold down your mother as your local police rape her and then give them a high five when they are finished.), you MIGHT have had a point. But you cross that line and proved you are nothing but a trolling bigot.

The fact of the matter you are a monster that is sucking off the tit of globalist pigs. Admit it, you hate the American population.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   1:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PaulCJ (#13)

No, that would be you. Anytime someone questions the anti-american bigotry on this board, you show up insulting them.

Your problem is that you equate the federal government with America. It isn't.

If you hasn't posted this insult, (The way you talk you would happily hold down your mother as your local police rape her and then give them a high five when they are finished.), you MIGHT have had a point. But you cross that line and

Poor little government butt-licker. You can dish it out but can't take it.

The fact of the matter you are a monster that is sucking off the tit of globalist pigs. Admit it, you hate the American population.

Coming from the guy who supports the torture of American citizens by their government, it's obvious you are projecting.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-08   1:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: PaulCJ (#7)

All I have seen from you is trolling against Americans, so you should STFU.

The fact of the matter is you hate Americans. You want Americans to starve.

Paul, I have to ask. From where did you derive that? Can you cite specific posts by Hayek Fan? I have seen HF post criticism of government, but never Americans collectively as you accuse.

christine  posted on  2011-01-08   1:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#14)

You are the globalist bootlicker here.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   2:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: christine (#15)

From where did you derive that?

His insults. I make a point and suddenly insults me by falsely accusing me of unspeakable crimes.

Monsters like him are always wrong because they always just insult whomever dares to question them.

You on the other hand are being polite, and you simply asked a few questions. And I hope this answers your questions to me.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   2:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: PaulCJ, christine (#17)

His insults. I make a point and suddenly insults me by falsely accusing me of unspeakable crimes.

You did not make a point, you lying piece of two party fraud shit. You lied about the guy not being an American citizen and then used that lie as an excuse to to insult me by saying that I would "gladly starve U.S. citizens to help foreigners."

You think people don't see this dumb ass?

Monsters like him are always wrong because they always just insult whomever dares to question them.

If you don't want to be insulted then don't insult me and if you are going to insult me then you can bet your bootlicking ass that I will insult back in spades and won't be nice about it.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-08   8:48:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: PaulCJ (#16) (Edited)

You are the globalist bootlicker here.

You make that claim yet you are the one who is defending the globalists.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-08   9:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#18)

You did not make a point, you lying piece of two party fraud shit.

You hypocritical, globalist liar.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   17:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#19)

You make that claim yet you are the one who is defending the globalists.

You are the one defending globalists by insulting Americans with your bigotry.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   17:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: PaulCJ (#21)

You are the one defending globalists by insulting Americans with your bigotry.

Get lost you Asperger's retard. Go hump someone elses leg. It's clear for everyone to see that you are the one defending the globalists on this thread.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-08   17:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#22)

Get lost you Asperger's retard. Go hump someone elses leg. It's clear for everyone to see that you are the one defending the globalists on this thread.

Go away traitor. The moment I stated this foreign born person was not our problem, you jumped on your globalist propaganda and attacked me with hideous insults and false accusations.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   18:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: PaulCJ (#23)

The moment I stated this foreign born person was not our problem, you jumped on your globalist propaganda and attacked me with hideous insults and false accusations.

LOL! Asperger boy it is funny to watch you try and twist your post to me when it is there for everyone to see. It must be a symptom of your autism that makes you believe that no one can see your bullshit.

First you lied and claimed the guy wasn't an American citizen and that the author was lying. Then you claimed that because I oppose American citizens being tortured by our own government in a foreign country that I wanted Americans to starve. What one has to do with another I'll never know, but I'm sure it makes sense to those with your condition. You might as well of said I want to outlaw chocolate chip cookies and imprison the Keebler elves. It would have made just as much sense.

The moment I stated this foreign born person was not our problem,

Like I said, you support the torture of American citizens by the American government. Thank you for finally admitting it.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-08   18:48:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#24)

LOL! Asperger boy it is funny to watch you try and twist your post to me when it is there for everyone to see. It must be a symptom of your autism that makes you believe that no one can see your bullshit.

You are a brain damaged idiot that supports the globalist agenda. That is one of the reasons you defend foreigners and verbally attack Americans.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   18:51:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#24)

No wrestling with the troll. You're better than that.

bluegrass  posted on  2011-01-08   18:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: bluegrass (#26) (Edited)

No wrestling with the troll. You're better than that.

You're right bluegrass. It's pretty obvious to anyone that reads the thread what the deal is. I'm done.

I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2011-01-08   19:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: bluegrass (#26)

No wrestling with the troll. You're better than that.

Read the damn thread, Hayek is the troll.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   19:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: PaulCJ (#28)

No, he is not..

Lady X  posted on  2011-01-08   19:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Lady X (#29)

No, he is not..

Yes, he is a troll.

F.A. Hayek Fan: The way you talk you would happily hold down your mother as your local police rape her and then give them a high five when they are finished.

How can you defend someone who makes such a monstrous false accusation?

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-08   19:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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