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Title: Boehner Condemns Attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords
Source: Congressional Press Release
URL Source: http://speaker.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=219343
Published: Jan 9, 2011
Author: John Boehner
Post Date: 2011-01-09 03:29:25 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 363
Comments: 41

Boehner Condemns Attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords

Washington (Jan 8) Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) issued the following statement condemning the attack on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) and members of her staff today in Tucson, AZ:

“I am horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff. An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society. Our prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords, her staff, all who were injured, and their families. This is a sad day for our country."


Poster Comment:

Psychopaths have a tendancy to focus only upon issues immediate to themselves to the exclusion of any consideration for others suffering the same or similar circumstances. This asshat Boehner wants the world to be cognizant of the peril under which public servants operate because a single gunman, with one gun, attacked this congresswoman but ignores the mass murders of Americans at WACO by many armed gunmen trained by the government.

Anytime one American is attacked by the U.S. Government the attack is upon all Americans.

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#1. To: noone222 (#0)

This is a sad day for our country."

Boner is a sad two years foisted upon the citizens as Speaker of the corrupt House of Rep.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-09   4:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0)

Anytime one American is attacked by the U.S. Government the attack is upon all Americans.

This event is terribly tragic for those injured or killed and their families. But when I pondered Boehner's statement it caused me to pause for a moment and consider the self-centeredness of what this pampered son of a bitch was saying.

While this cry baby and his brand of psychopathic political nut jobs were passing gavels, grinning ear to ear, and having their speeches written by others so that they can use 10 second sound bites to tell America just how special they are or make excuses for the massive fraud they've commited for a century many Americans are suffering unemployment caused by NAFTA and GATT or are being ravaged by legislation that allowed bankers, brokers and securities rating companies to "rape" the economies of nations worldwide through (criminal A.R.M.s) subprime mortgages that were super leveraged 100 times over and to such a great extent that we're witnessing the resultant effects forcing simple hard working Americans out of their homes and onto the streets.

These days lawmakers pass legislation without even reading it that often sends thousands of their own constituents to their premature deaths each year causing the grief and suffering felt by the families affected and don't give it a second thought, not to mention the millions of others in foreign countries being slaughtered annually as a direct result of their unfettered hypocrisy.

This kid may have been misguided but at least it appears that he did his research to a degree. He at least made the effort to read a little. He made mention of the currency several times and his inability to pay his student debt with money not backed by gold. By God, he's right, and when was the last time you heard anyone of these self-proclaimed geniuses (besides Ron Paul) make an issue of the fake monetary system and incredible debt system instituted BY CONGRESS colluding with BANKERS ? All of these super-geniuses educated at Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and Princeton can't comprehend the obvious GRAND THEFT robbery through the FED ? Let me call Bullshit.

Whether Americans realize it or not the FEDERAL RESERVE ACT and the CRIMINAL SYSTEM it created is the most heinous act ever perpetrated in America, yet the assclowns in Congress utter not a peep. This fiat fraud we called the Federal Reserve finances mass murder, genocide, regicide, and the over throw of democratically elected governments throughout the globe.

I'm not trying to condone what this kid has done by any means. I'm simply pointing out that CONgress and the establishment have earned the targets they'll wear as long as they perpetrate misery and mayhem upon good upright and hard working Americans, especially those with families to raise.

Boehner's statement that this attack was upon those who serve requires some scrutiny too. Who's serving who these days ? The fat-cat CORPORATIONS bribe assholes like Boehner to increasingly make life easier for their businesses at the expense of the little guy that can't afford his own private lobbying team. The home foreclosure debacle is a festering boil that is negatively impacting millions of Americans and when it's lanced or when it bursts it will sling pus for thousands of miles and there will be a proportionate number of fatalities.

The unemployment situation began about the time that it appeared the housing market was going to be impacted by the subprime fraud which in turn caused construction to stop and millions were laid-off. Just wait until unemployment benefits run out and parents aren't able to even "feed" their kids - in America - you gotta be shittin me ! No home, no food, then what ? I'll tell you what, civil war.

And when this breakdown occurs will the over fed, over bearing, mental piss ants in D.C. even "notice" ? It may take an event such as this one or Joe Stack's attempt to get their attention or it may take civil disruptions like those that accompanied the contrivance known as the Vietnam war, but one thing you can rest assured of is that things are going to reach a boiling point, and it looks to me like CONgress is in non-partisan lock step to insure it.

Many pundits will cast doubt while others will cast aspersions on this 22 year old kid for his violent acts against the system. But, trying to rationalize or determine what was on this one kid's mind is like trying to understand the ocean by testing one drop of water. America is quickly becoming an ocean of disenfranchised and disaffected people. The liars, cheats, and baby-killers running the show from D.C. ignore these people to their own detriment, they've made their own bed and I personally see just a little justice if they aren't able to sleep in it, but instead lie awake all night wondering if they're going to meet the Grim Reeper next.

The current generation of Americans have tolerated coups and CIA orchestrated disaster for their entire lives, but the next generation appears to have a different attitude. Call this kid crazy, and maybe he is, but let it be known that the environment in which these murders occurred was created in D.C. by inconsiderate assholes just like John Boehner.

The events that transpired in Tucson today will be blamed upon a 22 year old "child" while the culprits that created the atmosphere of violence will continue to create more reasons for violence. And while the effects of this child's actions were bad they in no way compare to the misery and grief served up routinely by these elite psychopaths that have the fucking nerve to associate their names with PUBLIC SERVICE.

The media will try to make a mountain out of this event but the truth is that it is so insignificant compared to the evil perpetrated by D.C. WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS and IN YOUR NAME, that to even call it a mole hill would be an EXTREME overstatement.

In conclusion let me say that I don't know if the people that suffered the wrath of this 22 year old's anger were more or less deserving than other filth that rule D.C., but something's got to give and it will. There's nothing worth saving in D.C., they've corrupted themselves out of business and now wish to institute a police state in order to maintain control.

Truly, I'd like to say I'm saddened and sorry for what has happened, but I can't because I know justice is not persuaded by the rhetoric and hyperbole that pours from the mouths of these political murderers like drool.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   5:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#1)

Boner is a sad two years foisted upon the citizens as Speaker of the corrupt House of Rep.

Americans need a divorce from D.C.

The relationship has deteriorated to that point where one spouse (congress) is beating the other (us) to near death. Not only that, after whipping our ass congress runs out the door and goes whoring around with every whore available.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   6:40:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#2)

Truly, I'd like to say I'm saddened and sorry for what has happened, but I can't because I know justice is not persuaded by the rhetoric and hyperbole that pours from the mouths of these political murderers like drool.

You have presented an excellent summary of where we are and where it can take us. When you put all the ducks in a row and see the tremendous frustration it has created among the masses, as well as the suffering they have experienced as a result of the disingenuous legislation of their representatives in D.C., is it any wonder this occurred?

This young man DID have more than just a passing read of present society and our leaders. Whether he gathered that information on his own or with the help of others is not as important as how he processed it. The psychological impairments he may have suffered could well be the trigger that set off his emotional response to the frustration he recognized as resulting from the behavior others.

Phant2000  posted on  2011-01-09   8:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Phant2000 (#4)

This young man DID have more than just a passing read of present society and our leaders. Whether he gathered that information on his own or with the help of others is not as important as how he processed it.

Exactly right, let he/she who can say that the illness being suffered by an entire society that allows an habitual criminal like Washington D.C. to continue to operate is any less abnormal than this kid.

Actually, the actions which this young man has taken are correct even if his mental state can be reasonably questioned.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   8:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#5)

Actually, the actions which this young man has taken are correct even if his mental state can be reasonably questioned.

You get no dispute from here!

Phant2000  posted on  2011-01-09   8:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Phant2000, noone222 (#6)

Actually, the actions which this young man has taken are correct even if his mental state can be reasonably questioned.

You get no dispute from here!

True.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-09   8:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Phant2000, Cynicom (#7)

I had to add that I'm almost certain that remaining in the USA these days is dangerous and borders on insanity.

I'm an old guy that they can only fuck out of his moldy years ... you know the ones where ya can't recall shit, can't do shit and if you do shit it requires the assistance of someone else to wipe your arse ... well I ain't there yet and am optimistic that I won't ever be so "lucky".

I guess time will tell because I never will.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   8:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222 (#8)

I'm an old guy ...

You sent that message to probably the oldest man and woman on 4um!!! What is it they say comes with age? Reflection is one and "got it" is another. LOL

Phant2000  posted on  2011-01-09   9:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Phant2000 (#9)

Ya know, depending on how this social change we're experiencing shakes out and who writes the history, this kid may go down as a forward thinking hero.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   9:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: noone222, Phant2000 (#8)

I guess time will tell because I never will.

Phant and I are nearing the 80 mark.

We are no smarter or more intelligent than anyone else BUT, that age factor gives us much wider view of...WHAT WAS...WHAT IS...AND WHAT WILL BE..

We were present when the masses were poor and free in their everyday lives.

Now we are all more affluent and freedom is fleeing fast.

That is just the view.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-09   9:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#11)

Phant and I are nearing the 80 mark.

We are no smarter or more intelligent than anyone else BUT, that age factor gives us much wider view of...WHAT WAS...WHAT IS...AND WHAT WILL BE..

We were present when the masses were poor and free in their everyday lives.

Now we are all more affluent and freedom is fleeing fast.

That is just the view.

I can't argue with experience and 1st hand knowledge !

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   9:11:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom, noone222 (#11)

That is just the view.

My view, too.

Phant2000  posted on  2011-01-09   9:11:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Phant2000, cynicom (#13)

I have msnbc playing in the background and I think they're going to annoint this congress lady with sainthood, while they argue for the full force of the law in prosecuting the villain.

Methinks collateral damage is something these elites believe should only happen to others.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   9:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: noone222, Phant2000 (#12)

I can't argue with experience and 1st hand knowledge !

That view imprinted from near 80 years is set in concrete.

We have no sympathy for any member of this government, beyond a personal standpoint, tragedy when a member is shot, that happens every day among the masses. This government has NO qualms about shooting those of us in the masses.

That is always justified and is soon forgotten, but when one of the government criminals is wrongly taken out, the nation is grief stricken.

I dont think so.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-09   9:22:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#15)

That is always justified and is soon forgotten, but when one of the government criminals is wrongly taken out, the nation is grief stricken.

Speaking only for myself, I've witnessed the optimism of my youth be transformed into an unhealthy cynicism by a government that never ceases in its trespass of my life, but worse than that expects me to participate in their murderous criminality my conscience be damned.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   9:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: noone222, Phant2000 (#16)

Speaking only for myself, I've witnessed the optimism of my youth be transformed into an unhealthy cynicism by a government that never ceases in its trespass of my life, but worse than that expects me to participate in their murderous criminality my conscience be damned.

The one word that galls me the most is...SERVE...

That lady did not and does not serve her country. Each and every member of this government is there because they want power over others. They serve themselves.

Proof???? Look how many have to be taken out of office by the grim reaper, because they lack common sense to remove themselves. Their death grip on power consumes them, totally, to the point it is obscene.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-09   9:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: 4 (#16)

Excellent thoughts and observations.

Thank you all.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-01-09   9:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: noone222 (#0)

An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve.

So, the isolation of the elite grows.

Please send a message to Speaker Boner; F U

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-01-09   9:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

So, the isolation of the elite grows.

Please send a message to Speaker Boner; F U

I'm sure Gabriella will be missed at those State banquets and champagne breakfasts for awhile.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   9:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Lod, Cynicom (#18) (Edited)

Excellent thoughts and observations.

Common sense should have restrained these deviants but like Cyni said ... they have to wheel their corpses out before they have sense enough to retire with some semblance of tact. (I couldn't bring myself to say dignity).

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   9:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: noone222 (#20)

What is a politician supposed to do, come out praising the killer?

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-01-09   9:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: noone222 (#2)

Outstanding summary! The hypocrisy of Boehner to condemn this violence, in light of the violence instigated and condoned by Congress over the last 20 years against both citizens of the US and worldwide, stinks to high heaven. In fact the CIA has already targeted a US citizen for murder, but apparently that's okay. It's only murder when Congressmen are targeted.

His condemnation speech makes me want to puke.

Pinguinite  posted on  2011-01-09   9:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Itistoolate (#22)

What is a politician supposed to do, come out praising the killer?

Not this:

BOEHNER SAID: “I am horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff. An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society.

Ya see, Boehner thinks there are 2 classes of people. The "have-nots" and the "have yachts" ... the latter class immune to the suffering they themselves foist upon everyone else.

When the government lashes out and kills 100 people minding their own fucking business at WACO, Boehner and his ilk whine about the 4 (or 5) attackers that got exactly what they deserved, and make ad hominem attacks upon the innocent that were butchered there. Then the government compounds their guilt by falsely prosecuting the survivors on trumped up charges.

This behavior will eventually wear out even the saints and when it does the Boehners of the world are deservedly lined up and shot or given a not so pleasant view of the guillotine.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   10:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: noone222 (#24)

True, but comparing WACO to this is apples and oranges.

I just heard on TV that the killer was a Jewish American.

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-01-09   10:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Pinguinite (#23)

His condemnation speech makes me want to puke.

Boehner said: “I am horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff. An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society. Our prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords, her staff, all who were injured, and their families. This is a sad day for our country."

The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

What he should be horrified by is the tinderbox that D.C. has created with the ample support and bribery of the corporations and banks that profit through the enslavement of the masses.

I wouldn't say that America was ever the utopia we were taught it was, but it wasn't anywhere near the shit hole it has become.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   10:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Itistoolate (#25) (Edited)

I just heard on TV that the killer was a Jewish American.

I didn't know that the shooter was Jewish. The congress lady is Jewish.

A little infighting might be a good thing for the Jews. (hahahaha)

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   10:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Itistoolate (#25)

I just heard on TV that the killer was a Jewish American.

I just happened on this thread, and want to go back and savor noone's comments, but scrolling down, your comment caught my eye. I WONDERED about that when I first heard his name, and again when I saw his picture. The Columbine killers were Jewish too, although you don't hear much about that...they were even referred to as "Christian" by some Jewish-American media personality recently. I'm surprised they're admitting it....what do you make of it?

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-09   10:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: noone222, Pinguinite (#26)

His condemnation speech makes me want to puke.

Boehner said: “I am horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff. An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society. Our prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords, her staff, all who were injured, and their families. This is a sad day for our country."

The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

What he should be horrified by is the tinderbox that D.C. has created with the ample support and bribery of the corporations and banks that profit through the enslavement of the masses.

I wouldn't say that America was ever the utopia we were taught it was, but it wasn't anywhere near the shit hole it has become.

yeah, i felt the same way when i heard him say that yesterday.

Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society.

King George prob'ly said the same thing....if the people had listened then, CORPUSA wouldn't even exist today, and we'd be suffering under a wooden yoke rather than the iron yoke we find ourselves under today.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-09   10:48:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#28)

It's the media spinning things.

I also heard that he belonged to a group (don't remember what) that is Anti Zionist, Anti Immigration(NOT ILLEGAL Immigration) and the 3rd thing I forgot.

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-01-09   10:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#29)

King George prob'ly said the same thing

You said a mouthful !!!

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   10:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Itistoolate (#30)

Interesting. Thanks.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-09   10:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#32)

An organization called American Renaissance that was against ZOG, Zionist Occupied Government.....

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-01-09   11:11:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: noone222 (#31)

Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society.

If it's wrong now, when they've stolen our gold, sent our jobs overseas, increased taxes and send goons to shoot our kids, stomp to death our pets, and chop off our hands and feet if we don't pay 'em, poisoned and drugged our food, water, air, and kids, then it was wrong then when we had to deal with a piddling 3-cent tax...in which case this so-called "government" is ILLEGITIMATE.

btw:

inquiring minds want to know, Who the hell ARE you people?

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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-09   11:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Itistoolate (#33)

An organization called American Renaissance that was against ZOG, Zionist Occupied Government.....

I wonder if he was all those things before "they" got ahold of him... do you know anything about his family? father military, CIA, or anything like that?

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-09   11:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: noone222 (#0)

The kid made a degree of sense. I wish he had been more careful and not killed a child and other innocents , but at least he went after those he felt responsible instead of shooting their hired thugs in law enforcement.

That is the mistake most people make. Retaliate against the hired thugs, instead of those that make the decisions. They can hire thugs by the millions, but their number are limited.

However, one must be a little crazy to attack those in power because to do so is suicide and not one person is 1,000 is willing to commit suicide for a belief. I am certainly not willing. However, imagine if there was 100 crazy young men willing to commit suicide with a grudge against the elite for the millions of murders in Iraq and elsewhere and other harms they commit against the commoners.

Law enforcement will destroy any group that attempts to form. However, when there are 100 crazy young men all acting independent from each other, there is not much they can do until after they act. Even if they outlaw guns, and they will, it is easy to make dozens of types of simple homemade weapons that are deadly at close range.

DWornock  posted on  2011-01-09   11:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: DWornock (#36)

If the report is correct that Jared had 18 hits of 20 rounds fired, he should go to the Stans, where at last report it was taking us 10K rounds to hit one terrier.

The lone wolf is unstoppable.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-09   11:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#34)

note to me....

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Noachide Judges and Courts will Replace the Existing Court System ...

".....The Final War for Jerusalem

Why Permanent Israeli Victory Is Now Within Reach

Judaism has always been a conquering religion, not for the purpose of converting gentiles to become Jews, but rather with the mission of returning the world to the universal covenant between G-d and Noah. For halachic reasons too numerous and detailed to list here, gentiles today who follow Christianity, Islam, or other religions are not, for the most part, "righteous gentiles" who inherit the World to Come.

That status belongs only to those gentiles who carefully observe the Seven Laws of Noah, including following the halachic authority of the oral Torah and the rabbis.

(For those who find the concept confusing, we hasten to point out that this is not part of a conversion to Judaism, nor even a step in the process. The Children of Noah have their own, independent role to play in assisting the Jewish people and refining the world. Those individuals who wish to convert may do so, but there is no such requirement. In the Messianic era, these righteous gentiles will worship in the Jerusalem Temple and celebrate certain Torah holidays, but will maintain a separate court system and not intermarry with Jews. Today, such Noachides also assist in bringing non-observant Jews back to Torah, among other functions.)

During the time of the first Temple, the dream of eventually refining and transforming the gentiles was reflected in the presence of ten menorahs in the Temple sanctuary — for a total of seventy lights — representing the elevation of the seventy gentile nations. But when the Temple was destroyed, the Jews had to influence the gentiles in a more quiet, gradual manner. Although causing the gentiles to observe the Seven Noachide Laws is itself one of the 613 mitzvos of the Torah, the exile at times sank to such depths of harshness and oppression that Jews simply could not fulfill this mitzvah for fear of death. In such times, Judaism was forced to adapt itself to mere survival; conquest was simply out of the question.

That situation has completely reversed itself today. The very fact that Amalek can stir up such chaos in the world is proof that gentile society no longer presents true opposition to Jewish teachings. One now sees anti-Semitism only where Amalek is provoking trouble, which is precisely where gentiles are the most desperate for guidance. As Christianity spirals downward into strife and theological confusion, it becomes a vacuum unable to defend itself against either the lies of Amalek or the truth of Torah. Amalek can exploit the worldwide collapse of Christianity only by default — that is, only when the Jewish people do not seize the unprecedented opportunity.

And as the Lubavitcher Rebbe has explained, by transforming the gentiles we can quickly create a vast army of supporters who will help us reveal Moshiach and bring all Jews back to the Torah. Specifically, the Rebbe has emphasized that the "peace process" in Israel will be defeated only through our influence on the gentiles — especially through the campaign to teach the Noachide Laws (see Sichos in English, vol. 16, [19 Kislev 5743]).

Our most pressing task, to put it simply, is to launch an international Noachide revolution without delay. The process has already begun, with dozens of tiny Noachide communities having appeared throughout the United States, generally composed of former Christians who have abandoned that religion. The task of organizing be revolution can be divided into two broad stages:

1) We must first create a new Noachide society as an international network of communities and organizations functioning inside, but separately from, the surrounding society (based on halachic requirements and directives, Noachide institutions function quite differently from their Christian and secular counterparts).

This starts with an aggressive outreach program, by Jews and Noachides alike, to teach gentiles about their responsibilities according to Torah.

Simultaneously, we must organize functioning programs and institutions that are prepared to absorb these vast numbers of ex-Christians and immediately involve them in efforts to bring Moshiach. The Noachide communities require schools for their children, modeled after the Jewish yeshiva programs; Torah study groups geared for their specific needs; coordinated celebrations of appropriate Torah holidays; family services for marriage, support for the elderly, and burial; courts of justice, led by rabbinically trained righteous judges, which will function similarly to Jewish batei dinim; and tzedaka programs to assist the needy, to build new Noachide schools, and to support Jewish settlements in Israel and synagogues throughout the diaspora.

2) In the second stage, the growing Noachide movement will seize political power — using only peaceful, lawful means — in the capitals of the Western nations. This, of course, will not take place until the Noachide society has grown to some threshold size. We do not know how large this needs to be nor which nations will join the revolution first, although the United States, as a fairly religious, conservative nation, certainly tops the list of prospects.

Upon seizing the reins of government, the new Noachide leaders will move quickly to implement a full agenda of reform. All economic and technological aid to the Communist Bloc, including the PLO, will be terminated immediately. Full support will be given to Israeli forces to reinvade PLO-controlled areas, with military assistance offered where necessary. Jewish courts (the batei dinim of the rabbis) will be granted full legal sovereignty over Jewish citizens within each country, who will no longer be subject to the authority of gentile courts. The pre-existing Noachide judges and courts will replace the existing court system of each country, and the legal code will be drastically rewritten to conform to halacha; in the United States, the emphasis will be on restoring the authority of the Constitution and abolishing all unconstitutional government programs and agencies. The national debt will be foreclosed, probably by paying off creditors with government land holdings [ATKHWDI NOTE: www.apfn.net/Doc-100_bankruptcy.htm / www.afn.org/~govern/safe.html ] thus averting economic disaster. And law and order will be fully restored through the establishment of internal security measures, again in accordance with Torah law........."

http://www.cephas-library.com/nwo/nwo_noachide_judge_and_... [not complete url]

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Exposing the Zionist Lubavitchers (Pharisees) Who Run the White ... ZIONIST LUBAVITCHERS RUN THE WHITE HOUSE & CONGRESS ... http://www.noahide.com.;-) THE LUBAVITCHERS ON ... org/gore10.shtml you will see Ronald Reagan ... http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/06/267122.shtml

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-09   11:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: noone222 (#2)

The events that transpired in Tucson today will be blamed upon a 22 year old "child" while the culprits that created the atmosphere of violence will continue to create more reasons for violence. And while the effects of this child's actions were bad they in no way compare to the misery and grief served up routinely by these elite psychopaths that have the fucking nerve to associate their names with PUBLIC SERVICE.

outstanding comments, Doug, all, but this was my favorite.

christine  posted on  2011-01-09   19:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#39)

Thanks !

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-09   19:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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