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Title: Oh, It Was The John P. Wheeler III Who Was Involved In The Barksdale-Minot Incident Who Was Found In A Landfill!
Source: Femalefaust Blog
URL Source: http://femalefaust.blogspot.com/201 ... ohn-p-wheeler-iii-who-was.html
Published: Jan 10, 2011
Author: A Female Faust
Post Date: 2011-01-10 01:37:30 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Wheeler, Minot, Nukes, Cheney
Views: 411
Comments: 35

Oh, It Was The John P. Wheeler III Who Was Involved In The Barksdale-Minot Incident Who Was Found In A Landfill!

So Wayne Madsen  hips me to this tip on John Wheeler III, whose name I didn't recognize:


John Wheeler III, special assistant to Air Force Secretary during the 2007 B-52 nuke incident at Minot, found dead in Delaware landfill. Homicide concluded. Last seen on Amtrak from DC on Dec. 28. Dealing with neocons can be hazardous to one's health. Not the first suspicious Air Force death as reported by WMR.
A bit more digging, so you have somewhere to start, brings me to Sodahead's rather levelheaded opinion :



What the "news" is not telling you is -

Wheeler was the assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force in the George W. Bush Administration. It was the Secretary of the Air Force who discovered that Richard Cheney had set up an alternative chain of command to the nuclear weapons wing of the AF. In the process, six minutemen missiles armed with nuclear warheads were secretly transported from Minot AFB to Barksdale AFB. The later is the chief staging base for the Middle East war. The alarm system for the weapons was deactivated for the transport, something that not even the base commander could authorize. The orders had to have come from above. Many point to Cheney. Before the warheads could be flown via B-52 to the Iraq/Iran theater, the Secretary of the Air Force ordered the stand-down of all B-52 flights. When he discovered the alternative chain of command to Cheney, he fired all military personnel who were involved. Cheney was said to have been livid. The Secretary ordered an investigation of what the AF press release called an oversight, and 70 enlisted men and 5 officers were removed from the Minot nuclear system. 

At the same time, people involved began to die mysteriously. Wheeler is only the latest casualty.

Read more, including background info, here .


For a detailed history of the Barksdale-Minot incident, go here (of course).

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#1. To: Cynicom, Phant2000, Jethro Tull, abraxas, farmfriend, christine, randge, Kamala, All (#0)

((((((The plot thickens Ping.))))))

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-10   1:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Likely he was killed because he figured out where that missing nuke went, and who has it in their possession. He also was likely a patriot who after 9-11 vowed that it would never happen again. Unfortunately, it will.

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TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-01-10   3:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#2) (Edited)

There was not much point in using nukes in Iraq or Afghanistan. So the more likely scenario was that the Bush-Cheney neocon gang got instructions from the Israel lobby to snitch some missiles from America's stockpile to secretly augment Israel's arsenal with something more modern or purpose-specific. Wheeler, being privy to such a plot, would not be the kind of guy Organized Jewry would want around in case a grand jury was summoned to investigate the nuke diversion/theft.

Also see:http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/201...grade-uranium-for-israel/

And:In 2008, Mr. Wheeler was the Special Assistant to the Acting Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Installations, Logistics and Energy. In 2009, Mr. John Wheeler was asked to be a “Consultant” to the Mitre Corporation.

Mitre Corporation has four (4) major areas of significance within the confines of the Federal Government including the Department of Defense, Homeland Security, the Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency. Those areas of influence are: Aviation System Development, Defense and Intelligence, and Homeland Security. Mitre Corporation employs 7000, 65% of whom have Masters or PH.D., many of whom are full time scientists.

The Mitre Corporation website states: “The MITRE Corporation is a not-for-profit organization chartered to work in the public interest. As a national resource, we apply our expertise in systems engineering, information technology, operational concepts, and enterprise modernization to address our sponsors’ critical needs. MITRE manages Federally Funded Research and Development Centers (FFRDCs): one for the Department of Defense (known as the DoD Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence FFRDC), one for the Federal Aviation Administration (the Center for Advanced Aviation System Development), one for the Internal Revenue Service and U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (the Center for Enterprise Modernization), and one for the Department of Homeland Security (the Homeland Security Systems Engineering and Development Institute). MITRE also has its own independent research and development program that explores new technologies and new uses of technologies to solve our sponsors’ problems in the near-term and in the future”.

1. What did Wheeler know in his special positions that would have gotten him killed? We have just verified that the Carlyle Group (Bush Seniors boys) has a facility contract for the Pine Bluff Arsenal storage, which contains chemical warfare materials, whose mishandling may have caused the death of 5000 birds and 100,000 fish?

2. What is the connection between Wheeler, Mitre Corporation, Department of Defense and the Carlyle Group?

3. What information did Wheeler, a highly credentialed chemical weapons expert, have on the Pine Bluff Arsenal, and the environmental catastrophe? Did Wheeler have information he was about to reveal and was silenced? Share

stevebeckow.com/2011/01/murder-of-wheeler-a-cabal-hit/

Tatarewicz  posted on  2011-01-10   5:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Oh, It Was The John P. Wheeler III Who Was Involved In The Barksdale-Minot Incident Who Was Found In A Landfill!

Bullshit.

Nothing in the article or the embedded links proves any such involvement.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-10   5:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: PSUSA, Original_Intent (#4)

Nothing in the article or the embedded links proves any such involvement.

Clearly, the link indicated that Wheeler was involved in a positive way. That was OI's point.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. .... Yeats

iconoclast  posted on  2011-01-10   6:38:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: iconoclast (#5)

Clearly, the link indicated that Wheeler was involved in a positive way. That was OI's point.

There's no proof of that. That is my point. It's just an allegation that someone posted on the internet. No more, no less.

I think it's interesting that most have a healthy distrust of the MSM, but implicitly trust the so-called "alternative media". They are no more trustworthy than the MSM. IMO they can be even worse than the MSM in that they lead their readers/listeners on what amounts to never-ending boy scout snipe hunts.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-10   6:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#0)

In the process, six minutemen missiles armed with nuclear warheads were secretly transported from Minot AFB to Barksdale AFB.

FWIW, LGM-30 Minuteman missiles are a land-based, silo-launched, intercontinental ballistic missile. Gross weight is about 80,000 pounds, they're about 60 feet long and five and a half feet in diameter.

What is the lifting capability of a B-52?

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Esso  posted on  2011-01-10   7:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#0)

o_m_g.....

this is going to be an interesting year

Obama has declared a moment of silence tomorrow for the false flag in AZ:

1-11-11 at 11 a.m., a nice occult number:

"...Watch for NWO engineered events (terrorist attacks, serial killings, special events. assassinations etc. - they will have some of these numerical associations. They are 3, 7, 9, 21, 33, 39, 93, 666 The Master Magick numbers of 11 and 13 Multiples of 7, 11, and 13 Inverted numbers like 31, 93 .......

Number 11

11 is a master number. Ten is the perfect number (god) and 11 represents God being exceeded. 11 should not be broken down as it is a master vibration. However, when broken down (1+1=2) it represents the 2 of duality. 11 can represent sin, transgression and peril. “The number 11 is the essence of all that is sinful, harmful and imperfect” – W. Wyn Wescott, the Occult Power of Numbers.

11 is the combination of the pentagram (5) and the hexagram (6), the male and female, the union of opposites. ...."

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-10   7:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#8)

Obama has declared a moment of silence tomorrow for the false flag in AZ:

1-11-11 at 11 a.m., a nice occult number:

Goddammit! It should be at 11:11:11am on 11/11/11 for 11 seconds.

Symmetry is my life.

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Esso  posted on  2011-01-10   8:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Esso (#7)

Gross weight is about 80,000 pounds

Got no idea of what Wheeler knew or didn't know, or what they were up to exactly with these ICBMs.

However, the payload in the Minuteman can be separated from the re-entry vehicle. The W87 is less than 6 feet long and weighs in at around 400 pounds. You could fit four of those on a Gulfstream.

Warning: The linked image depicts a public official engaged in unhygienic acts. The poster is not responsible for violent upset on the part of viewers.

randge  posted on  2011-01-10   8:11:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tatarewicz (#3)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-10   8:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#8)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-10   8:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Esso (#9)

count the seconds tomorrow if you can bear to watch...maybe the moment WILL be for 11 seconds!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-10   8:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: PSUSA (#6)

touche

Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. .... Yeats

iconoclast  posted on  2011-01-10   8:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#1)

im afraid the significance of this will be lost even on those into conspiracies, much less the general public. my eyes glazed over when i read it. :-/ something to do with transporting missles 5 years ago, & cheney got even ? i much prefer the poisoned birds angle. now that will get people interested.

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Artisan  posted on  2011-01-10   9:57:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Esso (#7)

FWIW, LGM-30 Minuteman missiles are a land-based, silo-launched, intercontinental ballistic missile. Gross weight is about 80,000 pounds, they're about 60 feet long and five and a half feet in diameter.

Must have been a brain fart on her part as she knows that they weren't minutemen but cruise missles.

From the longer piece she did (link at the bottom of the article) on the missle/bomb incident at minot:

The missiles on the B-52 were AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missile units, specifically designed to be launched from wing pods of B-52H planes.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-10   12:55:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Artisan (#15)

im afraid the significance of this will be lost even on those into conspiracies, much less the general public. my eyes glazed over when i read it. :-/ something to do with transporting missles 5 years ago, & cheney got even ? i much prefer the poisoned birds angle. now that will get people interested.

It is data. It tells us more about the victim. Where it fits in, if at all, is undetermined.

However, given that it was 6 missiles not 5 is one of the key points. Six missiles were transported out of Minot, and five were recovered at Barksdale.

Authorization for their transport did not come through the normal chain of command. They were transported in a manner which is forbidden under international agreements. They were deployed in a launch ready position.

When the Secretary of the Air Force learned of it he had a fit, although there were public PR cover stories, and his assistant at the time was Wheeler.

Perhaps Wheeler learned of where the missing nuclear warhead went?

I don't know. However, it is another datum which may, or may not, have significance as to why he was snuffed.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-10   13:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tatarewicz, Original_Intent (#3)

There was not much point in using nukes in Iraq or Afghanistan. So the more likely scenario was that the Bush-Cheney neocon gang got instructions from the Israel lobby to snitch some missiles from America's stockpile to secretly augment Israel's arsenal with something more modern or purpose-specific. Wheeler, being privy to such a plot, would not be the kind of guy Organized Jewry would want around in case a grand jury was summoned to investigate the nuke diversion/theft.

Also see:http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/201...grade-uranium-for-israel/

And:In 2008, Mr. Wheeler was the Special Assistant to the Acting Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Installations, Logistics and Energy. In 2009, Mr. John Wheeler was asked to be a “Consultant” to the Mitre Corporation.

Mitre Corporation has four (4) major areas of significance within the confines of the Federal Government including the Department of Defense, Homeland Security, the Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency. Those areas of influence are: Aviation System Development, Defense and Intelligence, and Homeland Security. Mitre Corporation employs 7000, 65% of whom have Masters or PH.D., many of whom are full time scientists.

The Mitre Corporation website states: “The MITRE Corporation is a not-for-profit organization chartered to work in the public interest. As a national resource, we apply our expertise in systems engineering, information technology, operational concepts, and enterprise modernization to address our sponsors’ critical needs. MITRE manages Federally Funded Research and Development Centers (FFRDCs): one for the Department of Defense (known as the DoD Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence FFRDC), one for the Federal Aviation Administration (the Center for Advanced Aviation System Development), one for the Internal Revenue Service and U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (the Center for Enterprise Modernization), and one for the Department of Homeland Security (the Homeland Security Systems Engineering and Development Institute). MITRE also has its own independent research and development program that explores new technologies and new uses of technologies to solve our sponsors’ problems in the near-term and in the future”.

1. What did Wheeler know in his special positions that would have gotten him killed? We have just verified that the Carlyle Group (Bush Seniors boys) has a facility contract for the Pine Bluff Arsenal storage, which contains chemical warfare materials, whose mishandling may have caused the death of 5000 birds and 100,000 fish?

2. What is the connection between Wheeler, Mitre Corporation, Department of Defense and the Carlyle Group?

3. What information did Wheeler, a highly credentialed chemical weapons expert, have on the Pine Bluff Arsenal, and the environmental catastrophe? Did Wheeler have information he was about to reveal and was silenced? Share

http://stevebeckow.com/2011/01/murder-of-wheeler-a-cabal-hit/

Is MITRE Corp A Trojan Horse for 9/11?

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...gi?ArtNum=127997&Disp=All see comment #26

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-10   13:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, All (#8)

Obama has declared a moment of silence tomorrow for the false flag in AZ:

1-11-11 at 11 a.m., a nice occult number:

Minot, North Dakota: [Founded] during the construction of the Great Northern Railway, Minot is also known as "Magic City", commemorating its remarkable growth in size over a short time.

It's a sketchy stretch between the scheduled moment of silence, Magic City/Minot, and the railroad connection to the Wheeler case, but there it is, FWIW.

Barksdale is located near Bossier City and I think it has a place called Bossier Gate. What does that have to do with anything in this thread, you might well ask. Here's how I look at it in regards to the "Bossier alternative chain of command" pop-mythology that floats around Cheney like a paper airplane from time to time since 9/11. The fact is that Vice Presidents are nowhere in the Military chain of command at all, let alone as "The Big Boss" at the top. Anyone who really believes that the Military is so stupid they just forget sometimes that they don't take orders from civilian VPs should rethink that and ask why they've been unblinkingly conditioned to make such a leap into the absurd as if control of our forces and WMDs are up for grabs by "King of the Hill" pretenders or whatever.

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GreyLmist  posted on  2011-01-10   13:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#18)

The name "Mitre" is itself interesting as it has Masonic/Occultic significance. A Mitre is both the formal head wear for a Bishop or Pope (and also a High Priest of the Knights Templar), and is also significant in symbolism for Freemasons as in "the Mitre and Square". (As a side note of trivia Jack The Ripper's first and last victim's bodies were dropped off at "Mitre Square" in London.)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-10   13:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: GreyLmist (#19)

Minot, North Dakota: [Founded] during the construction of the Great Northern Railway, Minot is also known as "Magic City", commemorating its remarkable growth in size over a short time.

It's a sketchy stretch between the scheduled moment of silence, Magic City/Minot, and the railroad connection to the Wheeler case, but there it is, FWIW.

sketchy to us, maybe, but you may have just offended the inner circle, o profane one :}.....because you probably are on to something there.

Barksdale is located near Bossier City and I think it has a place called Bossier Gate. What does that have to do with anything in this thread, you might well ask. Here's how I look at it in regards to the "Bossier alternative chain of command" pop-mythology that floats around Cheney like a paper airplane from time to time since 9/11. The fact is that Vice Presidents are nowhere in the Military chain of command at all, let alone as "The Big Boss" at the top. Anyone who really believes that the Military is so stupid they just forget sometimes that they don't take orders from civilian VPs should rethink that and ask why they've been unblinkingly conditioned to make such a leap into the absurd as if control of our forces and WMDs are up for grabs by "King of the Hill" pretenders or whatever.

That sparked a vague memory of something I "learned" about Cheney and that chain of command when that military man connected with Andrews AFB [I think] was killed on the DC Metro crash....wish I had half a brain....which reminds me to go take my coconut oil.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-10   13:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#20)

The name "Mitre" is itself interesting as it has Masonic/Occultic significance. A Mitre is both the formal head wear for a Bishop or Pope (and also a High Priest of the Knights Templar), and is also significant in symbolism for Freemasons as in "the Mitre and Square". (As a side note of trivia Jack The Ripper's first and last victim's bodies were dropped off at "Mitre Square" in London.)

we're all thinking along the same lines....i just put a formal definition up on the other link....yours is far more interesting.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-10   13:43:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GreyLmistAllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Phant2000, christine, farmfriend, abraxas, HighLairEon, Kamala, All (#19)

Obama has declared a moment of silence tomorrow for the false flag in AZ:

1-11-11 at 11 a.m., a nice occult number:

The numbers 1 and 11 both have occultic significance in some lore. I was reading about it, coincidentally, the other day in an article on the occultic symbolism in 911. I'll have to see if I can retrace my steps and find the article again.

However, this memorial is obviously, to anyone aware of how the elites play games with occultic numerology, a ritual choice. Which suggests strongly that the theories suggesting that the shooter was a programmed mind control killer (like Sirhan Sirhan) gain greater weight. It is really quite "in your face" when you think about it. Of course to the uninitiated Sheeple the significance of all those 11's is just "coincidence".

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-10   13:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#22)

Thank you. It is interesting looking at all of the occultic references popping up out of this case and the related material.

It makes me think that the people killed in Arizona were a ritual blood sacrifice.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-10   13:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent, GreyLMist (#23)

The numbers 1 and 11 both have occultic significance in some lore. I was reading about it, coincidentally, the other day in an article on the occultic symbolism in 911. I'll have to see if I can retrace my steps and find the article again.

However, this memorial is obviously, to anyone aware of how the elites play games with occultic numerology, a ritual choice. Which suggests strongly that the theories suggesting that the shooter was a programmed mind control killer (like Sirhan Sirhan) gain greater weight. It is really quite "in your face" when you think about it. Of course to the uninitiated Sheeple the significance of all those 11's is just "coincidence".

will this help?

Tuesday, April 27, 2010
OCCULT NUMEROLOGY OF WORLD EVENTS conspiracyresearch.blogsp...umerics-followers-of.html

It was a link from a thread I posted, which I intended to get back to, but I'm always overextending my computer, and it usually crashes and I forget where I was [looking at it again, I remember I had started a post on it, but must have lost it before I posted it]:

THE JEWISH MASONIC CONSPIRACY FOR DUMMIES
http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=127839

"There is a conspiracy to enslave humanity under a one world totalitarian regime to be ruled by a World King.

[give new meaning to the name "MITRE"?]

The conspiracy is run by the Jews and their Anglo useful idiots.

[I love that one]

A Jew follows the Talmud, a doctrine of racial supremacism, world domination and hatred of all other races who they call animals.

The secret society network under the Jews is collectively known as Freemasonry.

Jews and Freemasons practice a system of self deception called 'magic', or Kaballah.

[love that one too....and there's that word "MAGIC", GreyLMist]

The Kaballah teaches that Jews can overcome the Laws of Nature and become God through application of its 'secrets'.

The Kaballah is all lies, deceit and superstition. You can not overcome the Laws of Nature anymore than you can jump off a building and expect to fly. There is no evidence of remote viewing, other dimensions, psychic phenomena, mind over matter, necromancy, ghosts, spooks, angels, demons, fairies, leprechauns and spirits. All there is is belief, the power of suggestion and MIND CONTROL.

The Kaballah involves the use of numbers, amulets, symbols, and rituals that are played out on the World Stage - 911, 777, OK, Columbine, JFK, Diana, etc..

The goal of the Jewish religion is the mongrelization and destruction of the White Race and the subjugation and enslavement of the 'goyim'.

The Holocaust is Mind Control and the New Religion.

conspiracyresearch.blogsp.../2010/04/my-position.html

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From the link to Christopher Bollyn's article on MITRE/TROJAN HORSE?

"....The two foreign nations most often implicated in the unofficial explanations of 9/11 are Israel and Britain.. Both countries are supporters and beneficiaries of the Bush administration's "war on terror."

For the Israelis, Iraq, a major threat, was drastically reduced in power and put under military occupation. For the British, a oil-rich territory, Iraq's southern region of Basra, which it originally occupied in 1914, was reoccupied and its immense oil assets put under control of the Crown.

Royal Dutch Shell and BP, formerly named British Petroleum, are two companies said to be controlled by the Crown, which have posted record profits since 9/11.

While both Britain and Israel have substantial assets and powerful organizations in the United States, proponents of the anti-government version have not explained how a foreign power could manipulate the computer systems of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the North American Aerospace Defense Command ( NORAD), and the U.S. Air Force, and thereby control the aerial attacks of 9/11. ...."

Britain [or "British-Israel"] published THIS Kabbalistic interpretation of 911:

#23 The Building Race acts to Pattern
The Covenant Nations Act to Pattern In the Siege of Civilization
Michael A. Clark

www.britishisrael.co.uk/articles.php

JordanMaxwell.com :

British Israel 1 [UNITED STATES AND BRITAIN STILL JOINED AT THE HIP]
British Israel World Federation Movement. | Page 1 | Page 2 | Page 3 | ... Steps Toward British Union, a World State, and International Strife ...
www.jordanmaxwell.com/art...british-israel/index.html

British Israel 2

What You Need to Know About the British Israel World Federation Movement

| Page 1 | Page 2 | Page 3 |

In the late 1930s, the British Israel World Federation Movement's Destiny Magazine published articles identifying September 2001 as the target date for beginning their planned global theocratic state -- a"Kingdom of Heaven on Earth."

Jordan Maxwell presents the following ultra-high-resolution scans of the ORIGINAL ARTICLES so you can see for yourself what these people have been talking privately about for generations in their own publications..... . www.jordanmaxwell.com/art...rael/british-israel-2.htm

Page 3...Birth of Jesus September 11, 3 BC

The Jews have another Kabbalistic interpretation:

The Later Days: Gog and Magog War
When HaShem (G-d) comes from Edom, the SHARET angels come before him and find ... right before our eyes with the Sep. 11 attack and the war in Afghanistan. ... a war with Christianity, ... magog.web-site.co.il/gog/e_war.shtml

September 11

magog.web-site.co.il/gog/e_terror.shtml

btw, America is not Edom.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-10   14:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#21) (Edited)

you may have just offended the inner circle, o profane one :}.....because you probably are on to something there.

Everything that isn't profane seems to offend them. Nice of you to confuse them with that far-flung profanity descriptor of me so I'm gonna let it slide this time, ATKHWDI, but please do have some coconut juice henceforth before adjectively addressing me, k? I work day and night at not sinking to their level.

That sparked a vague memory of something I "learned" about Cheney and that chain of command when that military man connected with Andrews AFB [I think] was killed on the DC Metro crash....wish I had half a brain....which reminds me to go take my coconut oil.

Don't underestimate yourself so. Your brain is AOK, imo, even if it doesn't always jive sometimes with my way of thinking. Please let us know if/when you can recall what you *learned* about the alleged Cheney chain of command. You've reminded me with that train of thought about questions concerning the insertion of the city of D.C. into the National Guard of the states:

Excerpt from Man killed in D.C. Metro crash ordered jets above Capitol on 9/11 [Retired Maj. Gen. David F. Wherley Jr.]: On the morning of the September 11 attacks, Wherley, commander of the 113th Fighter Wing at Andrews Air Force Base, deployed pilots with orders from then-Vice President Dick Cheney to protect the White House and take out any aircraft that threatened the Capitol, according to the 9/11 Commission Report. [My note: Not a trustworthy source, imo.]

"They said challenge them, try to turn them away; if they don't turn away, use whatever force is necessary to keep them from hitting buildings downtown," Wherley told the Washington Post in a 2002 interview.

Wherley, a 40-year military veteran, served as the commanding general of the D.C. Guard from 2003 to 2008.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-01-10   15:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Original_Intent (#24)

It is interesting looking at all of the occultic references popping up out of this case and the related material.

It makes me think that the people killed in Arizona were a ritual blood sacrifice.

and the people on 9/11, and all the people killed in all their bloody wars.

Chilling thought, hadn't thought of it that way, but you're probably right, which reminds me of a great article I read a week or so ago in that regard:

NO ONE TO VOTE FOR: Remembrance Day
Nov 11, 2010 ... Lucifer, of course, was the angel who challenged his creator and ... Did the architects of WW1 partly see that war as an occult blood sacrifice to Lucifer? ..... Kev Boyle...
kevboyle.blogspot.com/2010/11/remembrance-day.html

Great article, must read, and it has references to the occult meaning of the number 11 and 911 [maybe this is what you saw], and also this comment:

Revolution Harry said...

The quote below us taken from the website of the National Memorial Arboretum.

"The alignment and axis of the Memorial portray a greater meaning. Drawing inspiration from prehistoric monuments, on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month, the sun's rays stream through the door of the sculpture, illuminating the wreath in the centre of the Memorial."

Of course it's a Satanic ritual.

You'll notice the inevitable obelisk as well.

www.thenma.org.uk/the-nma...orial/the-sculptures.aspx

I was watching the news one day a few years ago, and I was shocked to watch these marines in dress blues holding a coffin out and over their heads like an offering to Lucifer, and I realized that was exactly what it was. I never saw that before [or since]...it was quite chilling.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-10   15:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: GreyLmist (#26)

Everything that isn't profane seems to offend them. Nice of you to confuse them with that far-flung profanity descriptor of me so I'm gonna let it slide this time, ATKHWDI, but please do have some coconut juice henceforth before adjectively addressing me, k? I work day and night at not sinking to their level.

no offense, maybe i'm totally confused.

i thought "profane" referred to us who were not "in the know"...exoteric vs. ? [forget].

anyway, i was referring to you as "profane" in that i KNOW you are not, and never will sink to their level. forgive me for my mistake.

Excerpt from Man killed in D.C. Metro crash ordered jets above Capitol on 9/11 [Retired Maj. Gen. David F. Wherley Jr.]: On the morning of the September 11 attacks, Wherley, commander of the 113th Fighter Wing at Andrews Air Force Base, deployed pilots with orders from then-Vice President Dick Cheney to protect the White House and take out any aircraft that threatened the Capitol, according to the 9/11 Commission Report. [My note: Not a trustworthy source, imo.]

"They said challenge them, try to turn them away; if they don't turn away, use whatever force is necessary to keep them from hitting buildings downtown," Wherley told the Washington Post in a 2002 interview.

Wherley, a 40-year military veteran, served as the commanding general of the D.C. Guard from 2003 to 2008.

yes, thank you; that's what i'm referring to, but i still have to think on it...if my memory serves me correctly [and i can't count on it] i think the media lied....i think they were dabbling in a bit of revisionist history with that comment, and Wherley was dead and couldn't counter it.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-10   15:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#25) (Edited)

Jews and Freemasons practice a system of self deception called 'magic', or Kaballah.

[love that one too....and there's that word "MAGIC", GreyLMist]

The Kaballah teaches that Jews can overcome the Laws of Nature and become God through application of its 'secrets'.

The Kaballah is all lies, deceit and superstition. You can not overcome the Laws of Nature anymore than you can jump off a building and expect to fly. There is no evidence of remote viewing, other dimensions, psychic phenomena, mind over matter, necromancy, ghosts, spooks, angels, demons, fairies, leprechauns and spirits. All there is is belief, the power of suggestion and MIND CONTROL.

The Kaballah involves the use of numbers, amulets, symbols, and rituals that are played out on the World Stage -

They also use letters.

Since the letter "s" is sometimes pronounced "sh", did you ever notice how closely the name "I[sh]rael" resembles the name "Ishmael"? Just one letter difference, really. In short, the letter "r" symbolizes a head bowed in poverty and the letter "m" symbolizes mercy. If you look with that in mind, you can almost see a shadowy letter "r" symbolized in the mid-right side of this pic from your thread, Analysis of the Occult Symbols Found on the Bank of America Murals:

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-01-10   15:42:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GreyLmist (#26)

dang, i wish i could remember exactly what it was. I THINK it had to do with 1) the chain-of-command was NOT supposed to be through Cheney, and 2) I think what Cheney told Wherley was quite the opposite of what the WP reported, and Wherley was quite upset about it. It seems I turned up some obscure tidbit about it on the 'net, I related it, and it's probably long gone by now.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-10   15:45:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, GreyLMist (#25)

I haven't had time to read through it all, but do find things I disagree with.

The Kaballah is all lies, deceit and superstition. You can not overcome the Laws of Nature anymore than you can jump off a building and expect to fly. There is no evidence of remote viewing, other dimensions, psychic phenomena, mind over matter, necromancy, ghosts, spooks, angels, demons, fairies, leprechauns and spirits. All there is is belief, the power of suggestion and MIND CONTROL.

By conflating the preposterous with the merely unproven a false image is created. We were all created with Psychic abilities although some people exhibit them with greater force than others. In fact I would argue that only the pure of spirit can truly access them with any strength. Both Nostradamus and Cayce had one thing in common - they were both devout Christians and very honorable men. They were also both practicioners of the healing arts.

Whether one believes in its rituals or not the Kaballah was originally intended as good and as a developmental path to higher spiritual awareness. That thought needs to be kept in mind and recognize that there is a separation from the way in which it has been perverted by those of evil intent.

The Talmud, as any good Torah True Orthodox Rabbi will tell you, is NOT Judaism and is not the same set of beliefs as those of Moses who led the Hebrew people from their bondage in Egypt. The Talmud seems to be an admixture of Babylonian Mystery Schools grafted onto the original beliefs of the Hebrew peoples. The Talmud is to the Torah as was the Golden Calf. And it is along that Babylonian Mystery School line that the Masonic Line developed. Freemasonry appears to predate the exodus and its origins are lost somewhere back in Egypt well before the sacking of Alexandria and the destruction of the Great Library. The same seems to hold true for the Torah, or Old Testament, whose origins appear to come from the same general sources. In fact Ahkhenaton appears to have followed a religious belief system not too dissimilar to what later developed as Hebrewism and its developed descendant Christianity. I think it entirely possible that the Hebrews were descendants of the followers of Ahkhenaton whose beliefs were suppressed by the Egyptian High Priests. However, that is conjecture.

As well "ghosts, spooks, angels, demons, fairies, leprechauns and spirits" all seem to have some basis in legend which has through the passage of time become distorted. It would take a substantial tome to explore why I think those terms valid, in a way, but will simply leave it at the archaeologic fact that at least a few humanoid skeletons, of fully developed adults, have been found which were considerably smaller than modern humanity (and as well have been giant skeletons).

As a side note the last reigning queen of Hawaii was nearly 8 feet tall, and that was not unusual for the Hawaiian Royal Line. Even today the Polynesians are regarded as the largest human subspecies on the planet. And even the Bible speaks of giants existing in ancient times. As for ghosts the Resurrection was testament to the reality that the essence, or spirit if you will, of man/woman is just that a spirit not the flesh. That has become corrupted through the ages as saying man has a soul when it is just the opposite the soul, which is man, has a body.

"There is a conspiracy to enslave humanity under a one world totalitarian regime to be ruled by a World King.

[give new meaning to the name "MITRE"?]

The conspiracy is run by the Jews and their Anglo useful idiots. "There is a conspiracy to enslave humanity under a one world totalitarian regime to be ruled by a World King.

[give new meaning to the name "MITRE"?]

The conspiracy is run by the Jews and their Anglo useful idiots.

Here again I have agreements and disagreements. While the globalist religion seems centered around Jewish Mysticism (the Kaballah) I think the beliefs they seem to follow have a much older lineage. Not that it becomes any more palatable.

The use of the term "Mitre" does seem to have a secret meaning and significance and thus I suspect, and it may be why Wheeler was whacked, that it represents the main control organ for the globalist cabal. It seems to have its tentacles into all levels of the government hierarchy.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-10   15:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: GreyLmist (#29)

your thread, Analysis of the Occult Symbols Found on the Bank of America Murals:

no, i didn't notice that, and am so distracted now i can't think about it...snow's supposed to be on the way tomorrow and i have some things to do....and thanks for the ref to my thread....i totally lost track of that one...was it thanksgiving , christmas, or did everything just crash...i don't know! i'll check it out later...too much stuff on here now, and i have to run.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-10   15:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#27)

"The alignment and axis of the Memorial portray a greater meaning. Drawing inspiration from prehistoric monuments, on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month, the sun's rays stream through the door of the sculpture, illuminating the wreath in the centre of the Memorial."

You can find their ritual altars in some of the most interesting and revealing places. Oregon is one center of it, we seem to be one of their experimental laboratories. A few years ago a new City Building was constructed, and a rather ugly one at that. However, it has one very interesting feature - on the top floor is a ritual temple entrance which I am willing to bet, based on its design and location, appears to directly face the Summer Solstice and I am willing to bet it is directly illuminated by the first rays of the sun on the Solstice. It would also not surprise me if it is used as a location for an altar and ritual sacrifice. The other interesting feature of the building is the statue at the front of a scantily clad representation of a woman holding a Trident. She is called Portlandia, but learning, as I have over the last few years, of the predominance of occultic symbols if there lies not a hidden reference there as well.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-10   16:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Original_Intent (#23)

The numbers 1 and 11 both have occultic significance in some lore.

I know the number 11 in numerology signifies spirituality.


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farmfriend  posted on  2011-01-10   17:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#17)

oh ok, now i get it. your short explanation was much better than the article itself. thanks!

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2011-01-11   12:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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