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Title: Law passed to ban picketing at Tucson funerals
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com
URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4102736 ... ws-crime_and_courts/?gt1=43001
Published: Jan 11, 2011
Author: PAUL DAVENPORT
Post Date: 2011-01-11 21:21:46 by freepatriot32
Ping List: *libertarians*     Subscribe to *libertarians*
Keywords: Tucson, picketing, Westboro Baptist Church, libertarians
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Comments: 23

PHOENIX — Arizona legislators quickly approved emergency legislation Tuesday to head off picketing by a Topeka, Kan., church near the funeral service for a 9-year-old girl who was killed in the Tucson shootings.

Unanimous votes by the House and Senate sent the bill to Gov. Jan Brewer for her expected signature. It would take effect immediately.

Without specifically mentioning the Tucson shooting, the proposed law prohibits protests at or near funeral sites.

Dozens of lawmakers co-sponsored the bill, and legislative action was completed within 90 minutes. The Senate's committee hearing took just three minutes.

The Westboro Baptist Church said Monday it plans to picket Thursday's funeral for Christina Taylor Green because "God sent the shooter to deal with idolatrous America." The fundamentalist church has picketed many military funerals to draw attention to its view that the deaths are God's punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

Lawmakers denounced the church's plan to picket a child's funeral.

"This is just horrific that ... people have to deal with this. We shouldn't have to do this in time of great pain for our state," said Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, a Phoenix Democrat.

The girl was the youngest of the six people killed during the shooting at an event held by U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was among 14 people injured. Giffords was shot in the head and critically wounded.

Numerous states have passed laws restricting protests at funerals after members of the Westboro church began protesting at the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Arizona legislation is modeled on an Ohio law that was upheld by the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, Sinema said.

The four-paragraph Arizona bill makes it a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail to picket or conduct other protest activities within 300 feet of a funeral or burial service — about the length of a football field. The prohibition applies from one hour before the event to one hour after.

Shirley Phelps-Roper, a church member and a daughter of its pastor, said the prohibition wouldn't matter because church members plan to picket at one of two intersections more than 1,000 feet from the church where the girl's service will be held.

Phelps-Roper also said church members plan picketing Friday in conjunction with a service for another victim of the shooting, U.S. District Judge John M. Roll.

Sen. Paula Aboud, a Tucson Democrat, said volunteers in Tucson were organizing a human shield to block the protesters from view of victim family members.

Sinema said the prohibition applies only to funeral and burial sites because courts have struck down picketing prohibitions for procession routes.

"This is a good compromise that doesn't trample our God-given rights," said Senate President Russell Pearce, a Mesa Republican.

Sen. Ron Gould, a Republican from Lake Havasu City, voted for the bill but earlier was the only senator who objected to suspending rules requiring several days of legislative consideration before a final vote.

Gould cited the public's right to know what lawmakers are considering. "And when we suspend those rules mistakes get made," he added. Subscribe to *libertarians*

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#1. To: All, *Jack-Booted Thugs*, *Humor-Weird News* (#0)

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freepatriot32  posted on  2011-01-11   21:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-11   21:47:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

Law passed to ban picketing at Tucson funerals

It's a damn shame that a law has to be passed to ban this kind of reprehensible behavior. Why on earth should anybody have a reason (religious or not) to picket a funeral.

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-01-11   21:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: freepatriot32 (#0) (Edited)

If they want to picket something it should not be innocent bystanders, and not our tolerance of homos, but rather our tolerance for the worshipers of Judaism.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-01-11   21:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

every kook who voted for this bogus law hates freedom & america, & should be arrested. i cant believe that even people here fall for the 'we must ban offensive speech' nonsense

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2011-01-11   22:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#2)

THIS NUTCASE thanks God for the killings - Watch more Videos at Vodpod.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2011-01-11   22:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Artisan (#5)

Here is a solution. When these scumbags come to funerals etc it should be legal to take out weapons including guns and put them in the ground.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2011-01-11   22:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#5)

When there are not decent limits in a civilized society, tyranny follows.

Warning: The linked image depicts a public official engaged in unhygienic acts. The poster is not responsible for violent upset on the part of viewers.

randge  posted on  2011-01-11   22:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge (#8)

When there are not decent limits in a civilized society, tyranny follows

?????

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-11   22:16:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#6)

If his background were investigated I think you would find a Jewish connection. This is starting to look more and more like a organized event to advance a anti-Christian agenda than a lone psycho kid going nuts.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-01-11   22:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#9)

If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes.

Warning: The linked image depicts a public official engaged in unhygienic acts. The poster is not responsible for violent upset on the part of viewers.

randge  posted on  2011-01-11   22:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: randge (#11)

When there are not decent limits in a civilized society, tyranny follows

Well, good heavens.

I do try to be civil.

Man seeks to modify the behavior of man by enacting endless "laws". I guess it is successful to a point.

Evil comes too easy.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-11   22:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eric Stratton (#2)

And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2011-01-11   22:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#7)

congress passed a law against this church too, & whined about how their rhetoric was 'offensive & fringe. anyone who believes protest should be barred on such basis does not even begin to comprehend liberty.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2011-01-11   22:38:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

Dozens of lawmakers co-sponsored the bill, and legislative action was completed within 90 minutes. The Senate's committee hearing took just three minutes.

I think 93 minutes is a record.

PaulCJ  posted on  2011-01-11   22:46:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Artisan (#14)

Your rights and freedom end where my nose begins. These idiots come to anything I am attending and I will show them what it means not to have any of the brain suppressors because of my head injury and how it causes a violent response to their crap.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2011-01-11   22:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: randge, Cynicom (#11)

If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes.

lol.......that sentence is simply profound. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2011-01-11   23:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#16)

if i or anyone else is using their God given right to speak or protest & you dont like it,, too bad. you have no right, moral or legal,to threaten violence or commit violence against them. the fact you do, reveals nothing more than immorality & instability.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2011-01-11   23:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Artisan (#18)

Oh my, now your getting sensitive. Freedom of speech means I can say whatever I want including threats. It's just talk. Does that mean I can say whatever I want about your wife or girlfriend and you would just ignore it?

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2011-01-11   23:58:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#19)

its not about being sensitive. moral law precludes inflaming or purposefully hurting someone. free speech does not however, include threats. it never has. the protests of these baptists is political protest. i have seen them in person & they are very benign actually. leftists , like the maniac leftist who bit the finger off a republican old mans hand at a political rally because he didn't like his sign, are deranged & probably satanically possessed. Making crude remarks about someones wife would legally probably considered 'fighting words' intended to provoke violent retaliation. i dont view political speech in that way.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2011-01-12   0:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#19)

you know what? your analogy about comparing these baptists to fighting words just might be plausible. i have never considered that before. good job.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2011-01-12   0:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Artisan (#20)

These are fighting words. Fighting words uttered when people are at their most vulnerable. Anyone who would profane another's moment of innocent grief is a ignorant and contemptible oaf.

If someone appeared to protest at a funeral of a loved one of mine, I would find the first male protester I could lay my hands on and clock him.

Warning: The linked image depicts a public official engaged in unhygienic acts. The poster is not responsible for violent upset on the part of viewers.

randge  posted on  2011-01-12   7:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Artisan (#21)

I'm just tired of people using shall we say "religion" to cause problems, wars, hateful acts etc. through the use of speech. I am a constitutionalist to the point that it does not undermine my Christian faith. That is the reason my wife and I have chosen to attend a non-denominational church that does not display the American flag inside and does not allow loyalty to country to override Scripture. I consider the notion of "conservative" or "liberal" Christan to be an oxymoron. It is admitting that you allow your political views/opinions to impact/alter your faith.

This bunch does not do this crap for any reason except to cause pain and discomfort to others. Guess what I am saying is like what randge said about clocking these nuts. Doing so should be no different than defending oneself and at worst a crime of passion.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2011-01-14   3:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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