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Title: The Great Depression was Deliberately Created
Source: Hidden Evil
URL Source: http://www.thehiddenevil.com/crash.asp
Published: Jan 16, 2011
Author: Hidden Evil
Post Date: 2011-01-16 12:45:19 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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The Great Depression was Deliberately Created

Apparently congress was aware of the scheme of the international bankers and recognized the danger that the republic was in. Congressman Lindberg said in a Congressional Record dated, December 22, 1913, vol. 51, "This new law [the Federal Reserve Act] will create inflation whenever the trusts want inflation. It may not do so immediately, but ... if the trusts can get another period of inflation, they figure they can unload the stocks on the people at high prices during the excitement and them bring on a panic and buy them back at low prices... The people may not know it immediately, but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed."

"That day of reckoning, of course, came in 1929," said Perloff, "and the Federal Reserve has since created an endless series of booms and busts by the strategic tightening and relaxation of money and credit." Speaking about the historical disinformation regarding the crash, Perloff said, "Establishment historians present the '29 stock market crash as they do most events: an accident, evolved from erroneous policies, not from deliberate planning. We have all heard how foolish speculation bid stock prices high, but that the bubble finally burst, plunging brokers out of windows and America into the Depression."

"Having built the Federal Reserve as a tool to consolidate and control wealth, the international bankers were now ready to make a major killing," stated Allen. "Between 1923 and 1929," he described, "the Federal Reserve expanded (inflated) the money supply by sixty-two percent. Much of this new money was used to bid the stock market up to dizzying heights. At the same time that enormous amounts of credit money were being made available," continued Allen, "the mass media began to ballyhoo tales of instant riches to be made in the stock market. According to Ferdinand Lundberg: 'For profits to be made on these funds the public had to be induced to speculate, and it was so induced by misleading newspaper accounts, many of them bought and paid for by the brokers that operated the pools.'"

Perloff concurred, writing, "The Federal Reserve prompted the speculation by expanding the money supply a whopping sixty-two percent between 1923 and 1929. When the central bank became law in 1913, Congressman Charles Lindbergh had warned: 'From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.' Like two con men working a mark, the Fed made credit easy while Establishment newspapers hyped what riches could be made in the stock market." "Curtis Dall," he continued, "himself a syndicate manager for Lehman Brothers was on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange on the day of the Crash." Perloff quotes Dall as declaring, "Actually, it was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World-Money powers triggered by the planned sudden shortage of call money in the New York money market."

The "shearing," wrote Allen, caused a "despair [which] produced a willingness to accept a major expansion of government controls over the economy. ... In 1929, America was a long way from total government." He advised, "The next depression will be used as the excuse for complete socialist-fascist controls at home and the creation of a World Superstate internationally."

Congressman Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking Committee, declared of the Depression, "It was not accidental. It was a carefully contrived occurrence." He warned, "The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all." The Great Depression is another example of the Problem-Reaction-Solution formula.

"Plummeting stock prices ruined small investors, but not the top "insiders" on Wall Street," wrote Perloff. "Paul Warburg had issued a tip in March of 1929 that the crash was coming. Before it did, John D. Rockefeller, Bernard Baruch, Joseph P. Kennedy, and other money barons got out of the market. ... Early withdrawal from the market not only preserved the fortunes of these men," said Perloff, "it also enabled them to return later and buy up whole companies for a song."

"History shows that the Wall Street biggies came through very well indeed," wrote Alan B. Jones in his book, How the World Really Works. Quoting from G. Edward Griffin's book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, he added, "Virtually all of the inner club was rescued. There is no record of any member of the interlocking directorate between the Federal Reserve, the major New York banks, and their prime customers having been caught by surprise." Pictured below is a bread line in New York City during the Great Depression. Apparently the Wall Street insiders didn't require this service.(*)

Bread Line

Jones quotes Herbert Hoover's description of the Secretary of the Treasury, Andrew Mellon's views, "Mr. Mellon had only one formula: 'Liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers, [and] liquidate real estate.'" [Mellon] said, "It will purge the rottenness out of the system. Values will be adjusted, and enterprising people will pick up the wrecks from less competent people."

"For those who knew the score," stated Allen, "a comment by Paul Warburg had provided the warning to sell. That signal came on March 9, 1929, when the Financial Chronicle quoted Warburg as giving this sound advice: 'If orgies of unrestricted speculation are permitted to spread too far ... the ultimate collapse is certain ... to bring about a general depression involving the whole country.'" "Sharpies [insiders] were later able to buy back these stocks at a ninety percent discount from their former highs," he declared.

"FDR is probably best remembered for the New Deal," stated Perloff. "Of courser, since a large portion of the work force was unemployed, there was not enough tax revenue to pay for these programs. So the government turned to its other source--borrowing. In effect, the international bankers, having created the Depression, now loaned America the cash to recover from it." He added, "Naturally, the interest on these loans would be borne on the backs of taxpayers for years to come."

Migration

The migration of families & individuals due to lack of jobs was evidently common during the Great Depression. Encyclopedia Britannica describes the Great Depression as the "Longest and most severe economic depression ever experienced," which "precipitated economic failures around the world" and triggered "major changes in the structure of the U.S. economy." "To think that the scientifically engineered Crash of '29 was an accident or the result of stupidity defies all logic," concluded Allen.

Summary

This evidence suggests that The Great Depression was artificially created so the larger Wall Street firms, which control the stock market, could eliminate competition and make profits out of lending America money to recover from it.

"Competition is a sin."
-John D. Rockefeller

[Footnotes]
All photographs used on this page have been taken from from www.Britannica.com and www.Businessweek.com. (2 images)

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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

This evidence suggests that The Great Depression was artificially created so the larger Wall Street firms, which control the stock market, could eliminate competition and make profits out of lending America money to recover from it.

Of course it was. They used a very simple device.

From 1931 to 1933 the U.S. Money Supply was cut by 1/3. This in turn caused a "credit crunch" and shortage of liquidity i.e., nobody had any money. Without being able to get credit and fewer buyers for their goods businesses and farms went broke. Money is like grease in the wheels - no grease and things grind to a halt and that is exactly what happened. It was done intentionally by the banksters of the Federal Reserve and their cronies. They then proceeded to buy up the businesses they wanted for pennies on the dollar.

Oh, and the current depression is every bit as contrived and created.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-16   13:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)


From 1931 to 1933 the U.S. Money Supply was cut by 1/3. This in turn caused a "credit crunch" and shortage of liquidity i.e., nobody had any money.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-01-16   13:41:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#2)

I wish I knew how to use Photoshop because that really should have a Swastika emblazoned over a Star of David over the Eagle and Shield in the center. Then it would be more emblematic of the Federal Reserve's true history.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-16   13:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#3)

FEDERAL RESERVE - THE ONLY GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT HAS *NEVER* BEEN AUDITED!

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-01-16   13:58:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent, HAPPY2BME-4UM (#1)

This evidence suggests that The Great Depression was artificially created so the larger Wall Street firms, which control the stock market, could eliminate competition and make profits out of lending America money to recover from it.

Of course it was. They used a very simple device.

From 1931 to 1933 the U.S. Money Supply was cut by 1/3. This in turn caused a "credit crunch" and shortage of liquidity i.e., nobody had any money. Without being able to get credit and fewer buyers for their goods businesses and farms went broke. Money is like grease in the wheels - no grease and things grind to a halt and that is exactly what happened. It was done intentionally by the banksters of the Federal Reserve and their cronies. They then proceeded to buy up the businesses they wanted for pennies on the dollar.

Oh, and the current depression is every bit as contrived and created.

I was in the outskirts of DC this past week, and saw homes, and farm after farm up for sale, most likely a lot of them foreclosures. I was reminded of a Biblical passage that signifies this battle:

Psalm 83:12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves in possession The habitations of God. bible.cc/psalms/83-12.htm [ bible.cc/psalms/132-13.htm / www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55421 ].

It was a very long week; seeing the devastation being wreaked on homeowners was only a part of it, and I spent a good deal of my time out there being furious with the churches who have allowed themselves to be bamboozled by wolves who have entered into the flock unawares. They are so busy supporting "Israel", they don't have a clue the real Israel [God's "hidden ones" http://bible.cc/psalms/83-3.htm ] is under attack in their own promised land [ http://kingjbible.com/ezekiel/34.htm / http://kingjbible.com/john/10.htm ].

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Congressman Louis T. McFadden before the House of Representatives, June 10, 1932, in the midst of the first Great Depression [EXCERPTS]:

.....Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks.

The Federal Reserve Board has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the People of the United States; has bankrupted itself; and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

WHAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS

Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are not government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders.

In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into states to buy votes to control our legislation; and there are those who maintain an international propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and of wheedling us into the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime.

FOREIGN ORIGIN; FINANCING JAPAN IN WAR AGAINST RUSSIA

Those 12 private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this country by bankers who came here from Europe. Those bankers took money out of this country to finance Japan in a war against Russia. They created a reign of terror in Russia with our money in order to help that war along. They instigated the separate peace with Germany and Russia, and thus drove a wedge between the allies in the World War. [WWI]

FINANCING TROTSKY AND INSTIGATING THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION (ADVENT OF COMMUNISM)

They financed Trotsky's mass meetings of discontent and rebellion in New York. They paid Trotsky's passage from New York to Russia so he might assist in the destruction of the Russian Empire. They fomented and instigated the Russian revolution, and they placed a large fund of American dollars at Trotsky's disposal in one of their branch banks in Sweden, so that through him Russian homes might be thoroughly broken up and Russian children flung far and wide from their natural protectors. They have since begun the breaking up of American homes and the dispersal of American children......

.....President Wilson was a victim of deception. When he came to the Presidency, he had certain qualities of mind and heart which entitled him to a high place in the councils of this Nation. But there was one thing he was not, and which he never aspired to be: He was not a banker.

He said that he knew very little about banking. It was therefore on the advice of others that the iniquitous Federal Reserve Act — the death warrant of American Liberty — became law in his administration.

THE ALDRICH BILL

In 1912, the National Monetary Association, under the chairmanship of the late Senator Nelson W. Aldrich, made a report and presented a vicious bill called The National Reserve Association Bill. This bill is usually spoken of as The Aldrich Bill.

Senator Aldrich did not write the Aldrich Bill. He was the tool of European-born bankers who for nearly 20 years had been scheming to set up a central bank in this country, and who in 1912 had spent and were continuing to spend vast sums of money to accomplish their purpose.

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY PROMISES NOT TO CREATE A CENTRAL BANK.....

In a year, the Democrats had done what the Republicans were defeated for intending to do, and what the Democrats were elected for promising they would not do. In the eve of December 23, 1913, they passed their "Federal Reserve Act" in the Christmas absence of the many legislators who opposed it.

The act therefore was not only passed without public assent, but in explicit violation of public mandate.

Recently in one of our states 60,000 dwelling houses and farms were brought under the hammer in a single day.

According to Rev. Father Charles E. Coughlin, who has lately testified before a committee of this House, 71,000 houses and farms in Oakland County, Michigan have been sold, and their erstwhile owners disposed. Similar occurrences have probably taken place in every county in the United States.

The people who have thus been driven out are the wastage of the Federal Reserve Act. They are the victims of the dishonest and unscrupulous Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. Their children are the new slaves of the auction block in the revival here of the institution of human slavery....

PURPOSELY CROOKED MACHINERY

In 1913, before the Senate Banking and Currency Committee, Mr. Alexander Lassen made the following statement:

"But the whole scheme of the Federal Reserve Bank, with its commercial paper basis, is an impractical, cumbersome machinery — is simply a cover to find a way to secure the privilege of issuing money and to evade payment of as much tax upon the circulation as possible — and then to control the issue, and maintain instead of reduce, interest rates."

"It is a system that, if inaugurated, will prove to the advantage of the few, and the detriment of the people of the United States." It will mean further extension of credit — for when there is a lack of money, people have to borrow credit, to their cost."

A few days before the Federal Reserve Act was passed, Sen. Elihu Root denounced the Federal Reserve Bill as an outrage on our liberties; and made the following prediction:

"Long before we wake up from our dreams of prosperity through an inflated currency, our gold will have vanished, and no rate of interest will tempt it to return."

If ever a prophecy came true, that one did.....

.......MCFADDEN ASKS FOR AN AUDIT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE (STILL NEVER PERFORMED); DECLARES THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD HAS USURPED THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES; ASKS FOR IMPEACHMENT OF FAITHLESS GOVERNMENT OFFICERS, RETURN OF STOLEN PROPERTY, AND REPEAL OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE ACT

Mr. Chairman, last December I introduced a resolution here asking for an examination and audit of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, and all related matters. If (?) the House sees fit to make such an investigation, the people of the United States will obtain information of great value.

This is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Consequently, nothing should be concealed from the people.

The man who knows or suspects that a crime has been committed, and who conceals or covers up that crime, is an accessory to it. Mr. Speaker, it is a monstrous thing for this great nation of people to have its destinies presided over by a traitorous government board acting in secret concert with international usurers.

Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power. But the truth is, the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the government of the United States.

It controls everything here; and it controls our foreign relations. It makes or breaks governments at will. No man, and no body of men, is more entrenched in power than the arrogant credit monopoly which operates the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks.

These evil-doers have robbed this country of more than enough money to pay the national debt. What the National Government has permitted the Federal Reserve Board to steal from the people should now be restored to the people. The people have a valid claim against the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. If that claim is enforced, Americans will not need to stand in bread lines. Homes will be saved. Families will be kept.

The Federal Reserve Act should be repealed; and the Federal Reserve Banks — having violated their charters — should be liquidated immediately. Faithless government officers who have violated their oaths of office should be impeached and brought to trial.

Unless this is done by us, I predict the American people — outraged, robbed, pillaged, insulted, and betrayed as they are in their own land — will rise in their wrath and send a President here who WILL sweep the money changers from the temple.

http://www.perfecteconomy.com/pz-art-mcfadden.html

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2011-01-16   16:13:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)

And for his efforts Congressman McFadden was murdered - assassinated because he posed a threat to the criminally corrupt banksters who control that private criminal operation known as the Federal Reserve Bank.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-16   16:38:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#6)

And for his efforts Congressman McFadden was murdered - assassinated because he posed a threat to the criminally corrupt banksters who control that private criminal operation known as the Federal Reserve Bank.

McFadden lived down the road aways from me.

Whenever I encounter someone that graduated from his hi school, I ask them if they recognize his name. Not one has ever heard of him and we are talking about a school with less than 100 students per class.

Textbooks are NOT censored?????

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-16   16:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#6)

OI...

This is one of my favorite laudations of McFadden.

" The din of the battle being waged by Congressman McFadden against his opponents reverberated not only in the halls of Congress but throughout the Capitol. The dean of Washington newspapermen at that time and founder of the National Press Club, Mr. George Stimpson, when asked in later years to comment on the seriousness and magnitude of the charges being made by McFadden, he replied, "It was incredible. This town went into a state of shock. We couldn't believe what we were hearing. Of course, they said right away that he had lost his mind." "Do you think he had?", Stimpson was asked. "Oh, no," came the reply. "But it was too much, too much for one man to do".

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-16   16:56:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)

Psalm 83:12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves in possession The habitations of God. bible.cc/psalms/83-12.htm [ bible.cc/psalms/132-13.htm / www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55421 ].

How about Nehemiah:5 ?

1And there was a great cry of the people and of their wives against their brethren the Jews.

2For there were that said, We, our sons, and our daughters, are many: therefore we take up corn for them, that we may eat, and live.

3Some also there were that said, We have mortgaged our lands, vineyards, and houses, that we might buy corn, because of the dearth.

4There were also that said, We have borrowed money for the king's tribute, and that upon our lands and vineyards.

5Yet now our flesh is as the flesh of our brethren, our children as their children: and, lo, we bring into bondage our sons and our daughters to be servants, and some of our daughters are brought unto bondage already: neither is it in our power to redeem them; for other men have our lands and vineyards.

6And I was very angry when I heard their cry and these words.

7Then I consulted with myself, and I rebuked the nobles, and the rulers, and said unto them, Ye exact usury, every one of his brother. And I set a great assembly against them.

8And I said unto them, We after our ability have redeemed our brethren the Jews, which were sold unto the heathen; and will ye even sell your brethren? or shall they be sold unto us? Then held they their peace, and found nothing to answer.

9Also I said, It is not good that ye do: ought ye not to walk in the fear of our God because of the reproach of the heathen our enemies?

10I likewise, and my brethren, and my servants, might exact of them money and corn: I pray you, let us leave off this usury.

11Restore, I pray you, to them, even this day, their lands, their vineyards, their oliveyards, and their houses, also the hundredth part of the money, and of the corn, the wine, and the oil, that ye exact of them.

12Then said they, We will restore them, and will require nothing of them; so will we do as thou sayest.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-16   17:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)

MESSAGE BIBLE TRANSLATION: Nehemiah 5 The "Great Protest" 1-2A great protest was mounted by the people, including the wives, against their fellow Jews. Some said, "We have big families, and we need food just to survive."

3 Others said, "We're having to mortgage our fields and vineyards and homes to get enough grain to keep from starving."

4-5 And others said, "We're having to borrow money to pay the royal tax on our fields and vineyards. Look: We're the same flesh and blood as our brothers here; our children are just as good as theirs. Yet here we are having to sell our children off as slaves—some of our daughters have already been sold—and we can't do anything about it because our fields and vineyards are owned by somebody else."

6-7 I got really angry when I heard their protest and complaints. After thinking it over, I called the nobles and officials on the carpet. I said, "Each one of you is gouging his brother."

7-8 Then I called a big meeting to deal with them. I told them, "We did everything we could to buy back our Jewish brothers who had to sell themselves as slaves to foreigners. And now you're selling these same brothers back into debt slavery! Does that mean that we have to buy them back again?"

They said nothing. What could they say?

9 "What you're doing is wrong. Is there no fear of God left in you? Don't you care what the nations around here, our enemies, think of you?

10-11 "I and my brothers and the people working for me have also loaned them money. But this gouging them with interest has to stop. Give them back their foreclosed fields, vineyards, olive groves, and homes right now. And forgive your claims on their money, grain, new wine, and olive oil."

12-13 They said, "We'll give it all back. We won't make any more demands on them. We'll do everything you say."

Then I called the priests together and made them promise to keep their word. Then I emptied my pockets, turning them inside out, and said, "So may God empty the pockets and house of everyone who doesn't keep this promise—turned inside out and emptied."

Everyone gave a wholehearted "Yes, we'll do it!" and praised God. And the people did what they promised.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

noone222  posted on  2011-01-16   17:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#6) (Edited)

I spent a good deal of my time out there being furious with the churches who have allowed themselves to be bamboozled by wolves who have entered into the flock unawares. They are so busy supporting "Israel", they don't have a clue the real Israel [God's "hidden ones" http://bible.cc/psalms/83-3.htm ] is under attack in their own promised land [ http://kingjbible.com/ezekiel/34.htm / http://kingjbible.com/john/10.htm ].

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    U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

    HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2011-01-16   18:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


    #12. To: Cynicom (#7)

    Textbooks are NOT censored?????

    Ha. Try to find a mention of Smedley Darlington Butler and the plot to seize the Whitehouse - as documented in Jules Archer's book by the same name "The Plot To Seize the White House".

    Lots of stuff censored out. Publik Skools are no longer in the business of education they are in the business of indoctrination. Truth and accuracy takes a back seat, and did so when I was in H.S. 40 years ago.

    "“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

    Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-16   19:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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