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Title: Biblical Scholar's Date for Rapture May 21, 2011
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URL Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic ... 1/BA8V1AV589.DTL&feed=rss.news
Published: Jan 19, 2011
Author: Justin Berton
Post Date: 2011-01-19 17:39:54 by angK
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Harold Camping lets out a hearty chuckle when he considers the people who believe the world will end in 2012. "That date has not one stitch of biblical authority," Camping says from the Oakland office where he runs Family Radio, an evangelical station that reaches listeners around the world. "It's like a fairy tale." The real date for the end of times, he says, is in 2011. The Mayans and the recent Hollywood movie "2012" have put the apocalypse in the popular mind this year, but Camping has been at this business for a long time. And while Armageddon is pop science or big-screen entertainment to many, Camping has followers from the Bay Area to China. Camping, 88, has scrutinized the Bible for almost 70 years and says he has developed a mathematical system to interpret prophecies hidden within the Good Book. One night a few years ago, Camping, a civil engineer by trade, crunched the numbers and was stunned at what he'd found: The world will end May 21, 2011. This is not the first time Camping has made a bold prediction about Judgment Day. On Sept. 6, 1994, dozens of Camping's believers gathered inside Alameda's Veterans Memorial Building to await the return of Christ, an event Camping had promised for two years. Followers dressed children in their Sunday best and held Bibles open-faced toward heaven. But the world did not end. Camping allowed that he may have made a mathematical error. He spent the next decade running new calculations, as well as overseeing a media company that has grown significantly in size and reach. "We are now translated into 48 languages and have been transmitting into China on an AM station without getting jammed once," Camping said. "How can that happen without God's mercy?" His office is flanked by satellite dishes in the parking lot that transmit his talk show, "Open Forum." In the Bay Area, he's heard on 610 AM, KEAR. Camping says his company owns about 55 stations in the United States alone, and that his message arrives on every continent. 'I'm looking forward to it' Employees at the Oakland office run printing presses that publish Camping's pamphlets and books, and some wear T-shirts that read, "May 21, 2011." They're happy to talk about the day they believe their souls will be retrieved by Christ. "I'm looking forward to it," said Ted Solomon, 60, who started listening to Camping in 1997. He's worked at Family Radio since 2004, making sure international translators properly dictate Camping's sermons. "This world may have had an attraction to me at one time," Solomon said. "But now it's definitely lost its appeal." Camping is a frail-looking man, and his voice is low and deep, but it can rise to dramatic peaks with a preacher's flair. As a young man, he owned an East Bay construction business but longed to work as a servant of God. So he hit the books. "Because I was an engineer, I was very interested in the numbers," he said. "I'd wonder, 'Why did God put this number in, or that number in?' It was not a question of unbelief, it was a question of, 'There must be a reason for it.' " Code-breaking phenomenon Camping is not the only man to see truths in the Bible hidden in the numbers. In the late 1990s, a code-breaking phenomenon took off, led by "The Bible Code," written by former Washington Post journalist Michael Drosnin. Drosnin developed a technique that revealed prophecies within the Bible's text. A handful of biblical scholars have supported Drosnin's theory, lending it an air of legitimacy, and just as many scholars have decried it as farce. One of Drosnin's more well-known findings is that a meteor will strike Earth in 2012, the same year some people believe the Mayan calendar marks the end of times, and the same year the "2012" action movie surmised the Earth's crust will destabilize and kill most humans. Meaning in numbers Read more: www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar...V1AV589.DTL#ixzz1BWVFOIrt Poster Comment: Damn, This means I have to get a new outfit for the fucking occasion.
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#1. To: angK (#0)
This past Sunday, I went to the SantaAnita horse track for all 9 races. I "crunched the numbers" using every method conceivable for winning each and every race. Just feeling lucky and "crunching the numbers" does not guarantee a win; in fact, it is much more likely that you will lose.
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
All that means is that there are stupid people world-wide. The world will end May 21, 2011. ORGY ON MAY 20th! My place! BYOB! .
One night a few years ago, Camping, a civil engineer by trade, crunched the numbers and was stunned at what he'd found: The world will end May 21, 2011.
#2. To: angK, all (#0)
Camping has followers from the Bay Area to China.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
"All Israel had one million one hundred thousand men who drew the sword, and Judah had four hundred and seventy thousand men who drew the sword. 1 Chronicles 21:5 Bigger than the US Army! lulz
Judges 1 19 The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had chariots fitted with iron. Iron is greater than god. More lulz
#3. To: angK (#0)
FYI, the "Rapture" doctrine is less than 200 years old. Prior to modern Christianity embracing it, Biblical scholars taught that the Church would "go through the purifying fire of tribulation" prior to the return of Christ. And yes, you'd better get a very well insulated fire suit.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#4. To: PSUSA, AngK, Buckeroo (#2)
I'll bring some tunes..........
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
#5. To: angK (#0)
If anyone needs me, I'll be at the National Guard Armor liberating some vehicles, and then to Best Buy for the TV theft of a lifetime. After that, Sam's Club so I can stock up on poisoned food, and consumables. Oh, and then after that, probably the alcohol distributor where I can get all kinds of free liquor. Seeing as how I'm pretty sure that I'm not good enough to be raptured, being left behind might be okay so long as I can have my creature comforts.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist. I went to Chernobyl, and all I got was this glow in the dark T-shirt. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
#6. To: PSUSA (#2)
This US economic quagmire has put a dent into your generousity, hasn't it?
BYOB!
"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02
#7. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#5)
....reminds me of Sublime's April 26th, 1992 April 26th, 1992, there was a riot on the streets, tell me where were you? You were sittin' home watchin' your TV, while I was paticipatin' in some anarchy. First spot we hit it was my liqour store. I finally got all that alcohol I can't afford. With red lights flashin' time to retire, And then we turned that liquor store into a structure fire. Next stop we hit it was the music shop, It only took one brick to make that window drop. Finally we got our own p.a. Where do you think I got this guitar that you're hearing today? Hey!
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
#8. To: abraxas (#7)
Well, Best Buy has its own Music Store in it, so It's a two-fer.
It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist. I went to Chernobyl, and all I got was this glow in the dark T-shirt. - Tommy The Mad Artist.
#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#3)
You mean they "changed" their interpretation of the babble? I didn't know they were allowed to do that.
FYI, the "Rapture" doctrine is less than 200 years old. Prior to modern Christianity embracing it, Biblical scholars taught that the Church would "go through the purifying fire of tribulation" prior to the return of Christ
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
#10. To: angK (#9) (Edited)
============================================= Yes. That is exactly what I mean. And no, they are not. You may not know until (after) your last breath .. just sayin .. ;>)
You mean they "changed" their interpretation of the babble? I didn't know they were allowed to do that.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
#11. To: angK (#0)
This is the fourth or fifth (or sixth) time in about 20 years that Harold Camping - who is no "scholar" - predicted a Doomsday date. Each time, the next day he comes with a lame excuse. The distinct possibility that God is not going to give Camping a heads up seems not to have occurred to him. Each time Camping has left disappointed and embittered followers, some of whom were thoroughly browned off on anything involving the Bible and some of whom had to deal with whopping debts they had run up in anticipation of being taken before the due date. Maybe this time Camping will suffer the Biblical punishment prescribed for false prophets.
#12. To: Shoonra (#11)
A scintillating evalution! The distinct possibility that there is not going to be a Rupture, seems not to have occurred to you.
This is the fourth or fifth (or sixth) time in about 20 years that Harold Camping - who is no "scholar" - predicted a Doomsday date. Each time, the next day he comes with a lame excuse. The distinct possibility that God is not going to give Camping a heads up seems not to have occurred to him.
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
#13. To: angK, shoonra (#12)
Shoonra is Jewish so I'm betting that this has occurred to him.
The distinct possibility that there is not going to be a Rupture, seems not to have occurred to you.
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#14. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#3)
What for? I'll just wait for the church to change their doctrine, No worries.
And yes, you'd better get a very well insulated fire suit.
I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant
#15. To: Shoonra (#11) (Edited)
Missed that text from God because the cell phone battery was dead.... My secretary put the wrong date on my calander for Rapture..... God sent an erroneous text of 2011, when He really meant 2012..... Heavens, I didn't mean to say Doomsday.....I meant Roomsday, everybody was simply supposed to stay in their rooms with the blinds closed really tight.
the next day he comes with a lame excuse.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
#16. To: Shoonra (#11)
All a "bible-believing" Christian has to do to be a scholar is to make the claim that they are one. That's the beauty of Protestantism. You can make all of the biblical claims you want because everyone interprets their book of fairy tales as they choose.
Harold Camping - who is no "scholar"
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#17. To: abraxas (#15)
My secretary put the wrong date on my calander for Rapture..... God send an erroneous text of 2011, when He really meant 2012..... Heavens, I didn't mean to say Doomsday.....I meant Roomsday, everybody was simply supposed to stay in their rooms with the blinds closed really tight. LOL! Nice
Missed that text from God because the cell phone battery was dead....
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#18. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#17)
Crazy people by the busload....... Mentally deranged next right......Lunatic Lane swing left. I think we will be hearing more from the lunatic fringe as 2012 draws closer. : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
#19. To: abraxas (#18)
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
"All Israel had one million one hundred thousand men who drew the sword, and Judah had four hundred and seventy thousand men who drew the sword. 1 Chronicles 21:5 Bigger than the US Army! lulz
Judges 1 19 The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had chariots fitted with iron. Iron is gods Kryptonite. More lulz
#20. To: abraxas (#18)
No doubt you are right. The biggest will likely be the partisans screaming that all is lost if we do not vote Republicrat and/or Democan.
Mentally deranged next right......Lunatic Lane swing left. I think we will be hearing more from the lunatic fringe as 2012 draws closer. : )
I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. - Benjamin Franklin
#21. To: angK (#0) (Edited)
God’s truth is available to all, not just those who can crack a special code. There’s a harmful elitism and mysticism in saying we need some sort of special knowledge to understand part of God’s message to us. God warns that He has hidden things from the wise and revealed them to babes (Luke 10:21). We’re to use the Bible to help us understand math, not use math to unlock the mysteries of the Bible. God has given us His Spirit, not a code, to help us understand His Word.
#22. To: angK (#0)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson
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