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Title: Eisenhower's death camps
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Aq8vSahbZk
Published: Jan 19, 2011
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2011-01-19 23:33:17 by Horse
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Eisnhower was Jewish.

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#4. To: Horse (#0)

Eisnhower was Jewish.

I've known for some time that Eisenhaur was Jewish, He was called the Terrible Swedish Jew by his fellow cadets where he was being trained (West Point?) He was promoted up the ranks over many who were better qualified.

The DEF's, as he named them, so the Red Cross could not interfere and so the GC would not apply, were reduced to eating grass just to fill their bellies with something. Nearby villager's who knew about the situation were shot while trying to throw loaves of bread over the wires of the encampment.

The Nuremberg trials were largely held to distract attention from the war crimes of the allies. It was only at the Nuremberg trials that the first mention of the holocaust came to light. No-one, absolutely nobody had any knowledge of any gassings of jews during the war.

It was England that first bombed Germany's cities, killing civilians, woman and children. A war crime in itself. Hitler was against bombing civilians, but eventually retaliated in kind.

The victors get to write the history and in WW2 the victors were the Zionists.

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-01-19   23:59:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Horse (#0)

Remember the photo of Ike's West Point yearbook picture when he was dubbed "IKE, THE TERRIBLE SWEDISH JEW"? By the way, he was next, or nearly so, to the last in his class. This article was first printed in 1990, but we thought it was meaningful to reprint it now.

Note: During Cadet Eisenhower's time at West Point Academy, Eisenhower was summoned to the office of the headmaster and was asked some pointed questions. At the time, it was routine procedure to test a cadet's blood to insure White racial integrity.

Apparently, there was a question of Eisenhower's racial lineage and this was brought to Eisenhower's attention by the headmaster. When asked if he was part Oriental, Eisenhower replied in the negative. After some discussion, Eisenhower admitted having Jewish background. The headmaster then reportedly said, "That's where you get your Oriental blood?" Although he was allowed to remain at the academy, word got around since this was a time in history when non-Whites were not allowed into the academy. Note - The issue of Eisenhower's little-known Jewish background in academically essential in understanding his psychopathic hatred of German men, women and children.

Later, in Eisenhower's West Point Military Academy graduating class yearbook, published in 1915, Eisenhower is identified as a "terrible Swedish Jew."

Wherever Eisenhower went during his military career, Eisenhower's Jewish background and secondary manifesting behavior was a concern to his fellow officers. During World War II when Col. Eisenhower was working for Gen. Douglas MacArthur in the South Pacific, MacArthur protested to his superiors in Washington (DC) that Eisenhower was incompetent and that he did not want Eisenhower on his staff.

In 1943, Washington not only transferred Col. Eisenhower to Europe but promoted him over more than 30 more experienced senior officers to five star general and placed him in charge of all the US forces in Europe.

Thus it comes as no surprise that General George Patton, a real Aryan warrior, hated Eisenhower.

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-01-20   0:40:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#1) (Edited)

Ike was Jew, religion has nothing to do with it.

His real name was Eisenhauer.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-20   3:38:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Horse (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-20   7:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Horse (#0)

Eisnhower was Jewish.

Not exactly, according to the Wikifolk.


When Eisenhower was a child, his mother Ida Elizabeth Stover Eisenhower, previously a member of the River Brethren sect of the Mennonites, joined the International Bible Students, which would evolve into what is now known as Jehovah's Witnesses.[10] The Eisenhower home served as the local meeting hall from 1896 to 1915. The decision for West Point saddened his mother, who felt that warfare was "rather wicked," but she did not veto Eisenhower's entry to West Point.[11] None of the brothers were Witnesses in adulthood.

Eisenhower was baptized in the Presbyterian Church in 1953. In 1948, he had called himself "one of the most deeply religious men I know" though unattached to any "sect or organization".[12] Eisenhower was instrumental in the addition of the words "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954, and the 1956 adoption of "In God We Trust" as the motto of the United States, and its 1957 introduction on paper currency. In his retirement years, he was a member of the Gettysburg Presbyterian Church in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania


TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-20   8:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eric Stratton (#7)

In 'Eisenhower’s Death Camps': A U.S. Prison Guard Remembers

I've read the account before. My only problem is with such a complete lack of corroboration by other soldiers who served with him as guards. Perhaps they were ashamed or intimidated but after so many years, you would expect someone to step forward to confirm this account.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-20   8:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: angK (#5)

In 1943, Washington not only transferred Col. Eisenhower to Europe but promoted him over more than 30 more experienced senior officers to five star general and placed him in charge of all the US forces in Europe.

Wiki: "Eisenhower graduated in the upper half of the class of 1915.[15] The 1915 class was known as "the class the stars fell on", because 59 members eventually became general officers."

So much for rumors circulated here that Ike was dead last in his class and other obvious falsehoods.

Thus it comes as no surprise that General George Patton, a real Aryan warrior, hated Eisenhower.

Uh-huh.

Eisenhower graduated in 1915. He served with the infantry until 1918 at various camps in Texas and Georgia. During World War I, Eisenhower became the #3 leader of the new tank corps and rose to temporary (Bvt.) Lieutenant Colonel in the National Army. During the war he trained tank crews at "Camp Colt"—his first command—on the grounds of "Pickett's Charge" on the Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Civil War battle site. Ike and his tank crews never saw combat. After the war, Eisenhower reverted to his regular rank of captain (and was promoted to major a few days later) before assuming duties at Camp Meade, Maryland, where he remained until 1922. His interest in tank warfare was strengthened by many conversations with George S. Patton and other senior tank leaders; however their ideas on tank warfare were strongly discouraged by superiors.
Ike and Patton were held back by the Army old guard who thought cavalry was the thing and that tanks and machine guns were too nasty. These are the same "senior officers" that both Patton and Ike got promoted over when it became clear that Hitler and Tojo did not hold such refined views on the use of tanks and machine guns. In addition, the careers of the 59 generals graduating in the West Point class of 1915 shows that it wasn't just a couple of young bucks like Ike that got promoted over the old Army lifers, it was a bunch of them. Your narrative does nothing to account for this, let alone the obvious factual errors you're airing here.

And while I am no Patton expert, I suspect he'd bitch-slap you into next week if you ever called him an "Aryan" to his face. Patton was a man of war and wanted to beat the Nazis first and then take on the Russkies. I am aware of the quote attributed to Patton (i.e. "The Aryan mind is helpless in the face of the Jewish mind.") but I have concluded that it is merely a fabrication made by David Lane to the gullible readers of St*rmfr*nt, R*nse, Ary*n-N*t**n.org, and other websites that aren't exactly neutral arbiters of history. Notice that David Lane offers absolutely no proof that Patton ever made such a statement yet many people (who should know better) accept his assertion at face value.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-20   9:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative (#10)

Patton on the Jews and Germans

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-01-20   9:35:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Itistoolate (#11)

Interesting video. Too bad so little of it is true. Naturally, they offer no sources for these quotes.

” … Quick-tempered and bluff in speech, [Patton] was frequently involved in political controversy, not least because of his propensity to racist and anti-Semitic remarks. … ” – http://conservapedia.com/George_S._Patton,_Jr.

Letters They Wouldn’t Publish

Letters to the Editor
The Weekly Standard
August 14, 2005v

Dear Editor:

Jonathan F. Keiler (Correspondence, July 18) asserts that “there is no evidence that [General George S. Patton's] anti-Semitism, even if it exceeded the usual country-club variety, affected his conduct during the war.”

Prof. Joseph Bendersky, in his study of antisemitism in the American military (“The ‘Jewish Threat’,” 2000), described two important instances in which Patton, motivated by antisemitism, influenced U.S. policy toward Jews. Following the Allied liberation of North Africa in November 1942, Patton, warning of a Jewish conspiracy to “take over” Morocco and the need to appease Arab public opinion, persuaded General Eisenhower to oppose abolishing the anti-Jewish legislation that the Vichy regime had imposed in the region, or even releasing local Jews who were being held in forced labor camps.  Eisenhower’s recommendations in turn were endorsed by Secretary of War Henry Stimson, and soon “set the tone for future American wartime policies on the entire Middle East.”

After the war, Bendersky writes, it was Patton who “set the tone for army policies and behavior” toward the Holocaust survivors who were languishing in Displaced Persons camps in the American zone of occupation.  Patton despised the Jewish DPs, denouncing them as “animals” and “a sub-human species without any of the cultural or social refinements of our time.” Such attitudes inevitably filtered down to the officers and soldiers in charge of the camps.  The treatment of the DPs was so poor that presidential envoy Earl Harrison, after touring the camps in 1945, reported that “We appear to be treating the Jews as the Nazis treated them except that we do not exterminate them.”  When President Truman ordered Eisenhower to improve treatment of the DPs, a furious Patton wrote in his diary: “Harrison and his ilk believe that the displaced person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to the Jews, who are lower than animals.”

Sincerely,

Dr. Rafael Medoff
Director

The David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies
Melrose Park, PA

If even the professional Holocaust industry won't go after Patton other than for a few relatively minor issues, then I suspect there is little substance. What you often find when investigating these claims made by persons and groups with their own ax to grind is that they often manufacture these quotes and stories and there is absolutely nothing to back them up. But that doesn't stop Bubba from believing it because Bubba saw it on YouTube. And some Bubbas want to believe it so they accept it uncritically.

That Patton was a volatile leader with an even more volatile mouth, no one denies. He had plenty of obnoxious opinions on many matters other than Jews or Aryans or Russians. And while he decried the plight of Germans, he was also one of the most bloodthirsty anti-Nazis around at the time.

Like many great generals, he was more than a little bit of a wacko. And a great general is often not a great man or a great thinker.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-20   10:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#12)

That Patton was a volatile leader with an even more volatile mouth, no one denies. He had plenty of obnoxious opinions on many matters other than Jews or Aryans or Russians. And while he decried the plight of Germans, he was also one of the most bloodthirsty anti-Nazis around at the time.

Like many great generals, he was more than a little bit of a wacko. And a great general is often not a great man or a great thinker.

Good heavens.

Surely there are other dastardly and vile names you can think of to describe Patton.

Give it a try.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-20   10:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#13)

Looking at the pictures of Eisenhowers POW camps looks just like Andersonville prison camp run by the Confederates during the American Civil War.

BRUTAL!

LACUMO  posted on  2011-01-20   10:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: LACUMO (#14)

BRUTAL!

That is the way war is.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-20   10:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#13)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-20   10:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#15)

That is the way war is.

.........and more times than not, senseless.

LACUMO  posted on  2011-01-20   10:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: TooConservative (#10)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-20   10:50:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#13)

And while he decried the plight of Germans, he was also one of the most bloodthirsty anti-Nazis around at the time.

I think he saw the Germans as a threat to America as an emerging Great Power. So he was pretty brutal and aggressive in conquering them but then turned soft on occupying them. I think he was the only commander that released his POWs and sent them home which was the right thing to do.

For the Russians and Slavs in general (including most Jews), he had no pity at all. He saw them as truly subhuman and a threat to the West. And OTOH, Patton had some Jews on his staff who supposedly loved him and who he held in regard. A complex man with many conflicts, not consistent over time. I've no doubt he held these opinions with great sincerity, despite the conflicts and inconsistencies.

But Patton did have a lot of fight in him. And that was what counted. Then after the war, he was discarded in the same way the British voters disposed of Churchill. However admired for their wartime roles, they weren't for polite company in peacetime.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-20   11:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#2)

Until he became president then he converted to Presbyterian (but was still secretly a JW).

You're deluded like all Konspiracy Krackpots.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-20   11:22:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TooConservative (#12)

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-01-20   11:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Itistoolate, Cynicom, ghostdogtxn (#11)

A few more Patton quotes from the historians:

"practically all of [the Jews] had the flat brownish gray eye common among the Hawaiians which, to my mind, indicates very low intelligence."

And 'To an admiring letter from a Roosevelt adviser, Bernard Baruch, Patton replied, "I cannot understand who had the presumption to attribute to me anti-Semitic ideas which I certainly do not possess."'

Was Patton simply bowing to Ike's patron, as Cyni would probably suggest? Who knows. Maybe Cyni has a ready explanation; I thought he'd find the Baruch connection interesting. I think my explanation of Patton as a real fighting man and war-winning general who didn't speak nearly as thoughtfully as he fought is a fair explanation of Patton. Who cares what the hell a general says as long as he wins for you? And Patton was a winner.

Judging by the current pResident, Patton may have had a point about the Hawaiians there.

Patton's remark about Hawaiians (and Jews) is reminiscent of the Social Darwinism and eugenic ideas peddled at West Point in the WW I era by the teaching staff including extensive reading on the subject. They held a collective low opinion of Slavs and the great waves of immigration from eastern Europe into the States. This dovetails with the eugenicists and Margaret Sanger who considered it their duty to reduce the offspring of such immigrants. And the role of the Taylor raids and J. Edgar Hoover's freshly minted FBI which spent a lot of effort monitoring and deporting any subversives. Patton, Ike and other military leaders were influenced by this line of thinking toward Slavs, Slav immigrants to the States, and particularly toward Jews from the Slavic countries. The southeastern Europeans (Italy on east) were also considered undesirables but not as bad as the Slavs. Ike, Patton and the others were all products of their times and their indoctrination, and the culture around them. Just as we all are. We have to see them in terms of their own times and the institutions that shaped them.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-20   11:41:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: TooConservative (#22)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-20   11:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TooConservative (#8)

Prior to Wiki we relied upon the press and historians. I can remember reading that Eisenhower was much lower rated in his class. I also have met Jewish people who acknowledged him as Jewish.

Wiki is targeted by Jews. They edit out the info the goyim are allowed to read. Besides Jack the Ripper, Joe Stalin, Torquemada and Lucretia Borgia were all of Jewish descent. And all of them except Jack the Ripper were enrolled in other religions. I am not talking about the religion he was enrolled in.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2011-01-20   12:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Itistoolate (#21)

C'mon, next thing you'll be telling me that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are antisemites too! LOL.

I never have understood the admiration for Gandhi. He worked for the Brits in South Africa, denigrated the kaffir as inferior to Indians in South Africa, etc.

Later, he tried to limit the damage to his reputation from his earlier remarks about jews.


In an article in the November 26, 1938 issue of a magazine called Harijan, Gandhi suggested that Germany's Jews could successfully confront their Nazi oppressors with non-violence. Well, this was 1938. World War II had not yet begun. If we wish to excuse Gandhi on the grounds that he didn't know what he was talking about, since he was writing before Hitler's plans were known, we should also consider that he told Louis Fischer, one of his biographers, after the war was over, that "collective suicide" might have been a better strategy: "The Jews died anyway, didn't they? They might as well have died significantly" (see "The Gandhi Nobody Knows" by Richard Grenier, Commentary, March 1983). Collective suicide is not satyagraha, since it is in no way passive. And how passive can one be about one's children when committing collective suicide? Gandhi never advocated collective suicide in any other situation.
I don't buy Gandhi's explanation. But it is routinely offered by the establishment historians who whitewash Lincoln as some imaginary Great Emancipator.

Henry Ford was right. History is bunk. But it is interesting to examine, if only for the biases the elites wish to impose on the masses.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-20   12:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: TooConservative (#25)

Henry Ford put one of these in every car that rolled off the assembly line.

The International Jew — The World's Foremost Problem

Originally Published By Henry Ford

Many people have seen the booklet.

These are the original articles that appeared in the Dearborn Independent.

Click for full text

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-01-20   12:11:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: ghostdogtxn (#23)

Interesting you mention that. There is a pretty good argument to be made that the Germans (who were, like most Europeans, already prone to anti-Semitism), took Sanger's ideas and other Eugenic ideas from the US to beef up their Nazi antisemitism.

One of Hitler's top racial hygienists worked directly with Margaret Sanger in her early years. This is another fact that virtually disappeared from history as the Lefties don't want anyone to recognize the connection between Nazis and abortion and eugenics. It really disrupts all their little black-and-white paradigms.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-20   12:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: TooConservative (#27)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-20   13:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Itistoolate (#26)

I'm sure you're aware how Ford, his family and his foundation later tried to sanitize the record of his publications. It didn't help much.

What I find disappointing is that the record of Ford in funding antiwar activities, including funding a peace ship, is forgotten almost entirely. He should have won the Nobel Peace Prize for it IMO. What Ford did was exactly what the Nobel Prize was intended to recognize.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-20   13:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TooConservative (#29)

EXPULSIONS OF THE JEWS

YEAR _______________ PLACE

70------------------------------Jerusalem

132-35-------------------------Bar Kochba

250 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Carthage

379-95-------------------------“Unconverted” Jews expelled from Spain.

415 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alexandria

554 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocese of Clement (France)

561 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Diocese of Uzzes (France)

612 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Spain

642 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visigoth Empire

855 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy

876 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sens

1012 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz

1096 --------------------------- Crusades: 12,000 Jews killed in Germany.

1121 --------------------------- “Unconverted” Jews expelled from Belgium.

1181 --------------------------- Jews expelled from France by King Philip

1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France

1182 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany

1189 --------------------------- British Crown lays claim to Jewish possessions

1290 --------------------------- All but 16,000 Jews expelled from England

1298 --------------------------- 140 European Jewish communities destroyed.

1276 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Upper Bavaria

1290 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - England

1306 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France

1322 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France (again)

1348 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Switzerland

1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hielbronn (Germany)

1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Saxony

1349 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary

1360 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary

1370 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Belgium

1380 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia

1388 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg

1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Germany

1394 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France

1420 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lyons

1421 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria

1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Fribourg

1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Zurich

1424 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cologne

1432 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Savoy

1438 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz

1439 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Augsburg

1442 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands

1444 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands

1446 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria

1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - France

1453 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Breslau

1454 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg

1462 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz

1483 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mainz

1484 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw

1485 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vincenza (Italy)

1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spain

1492 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Italy

1495 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania

1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples

1496 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Portugal

1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nuremberg

1498 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Navarre

1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenberg

1510 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prussia

1514 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Strasbourg

1515 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa

1519 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Regensburg

1533 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples

1541 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Naples

1542 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague & Bohemia

1550 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Genoa

1551 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria

1555 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pesaro

1557 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague

1559 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Austria

1561 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague

1567 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurzburg

1569 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Papal States

1571 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg

1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Netherlands

1582 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hungary

1593 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brandenburg, Austria

1597 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cremona, Pavia & Lodi

1614 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frankfort

1615 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Worms

1619 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kiev

1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ukraine

1648 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Poland

1649 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hamburg

1654 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)

1656 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lithuania

1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Oran (North Africa)

1669 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna

1670 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Vienna

1712 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sandomir

1727 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia

1738 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Wurtemburg

1740 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Little Russia (Beylorus)

1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prague, Bohemia

1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Slovakia

1744 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Livonia

1745 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moravia

1753 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kovad (Lithuania)

1761 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bordeaux

1772 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Deported to the Pale of Settlement (Poland/Russia)

1775 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Warsaw

1789 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alcace

1804 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages in Russia

1808 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Villages & Countrysides (Russia)

1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lubeck & Bremen

1815 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria

1820 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bremen

1843 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russian Border Austria & Prussia

1862 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Area in the U.S. under Grant's Jurisdiction

1866 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Galatz, Romania

1880s - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Russia

1891 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moscow

1919 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bavaria (foreign born Jews)

1938-45 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nazi Controlled Areas

1948 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Arab Countries

ASK YOURSELF WHY??

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-01-20   13:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Itistoolate (#30)

EXPULSIONS OF THE JEWS

They do seem to have annoyed various Gentiles for a long time, don't they?

In part, this is merely a measure of their long continuity. Other conquered peoples were swallowed whole by conquering empires. Jews always had a more binding community structure, largely based around their status as the People of the Book, a common nickname for them in many languages.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-20   13:39:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TooConservative (#22)

Ike...

Fresh out of West Point, Ike knew he was a loser without a sponsor.

First he latched onto Gen. Fox Connor to look out for him during his early years, which Connor did by making sure Ike was not thrown out and attended all the correct military school.

Next he latched onto Baruch. During these years Patton was always his Senior and was kept in by his own merit. Patton was a tactician and strategist of the first degree. Ike was a a perfect aide de camp and paper shuffler.

When war came, Baruch called Roosevelt whenever he wanted Ike promoted and eventually jumped over Patton, BUT NEVER IN PERMANENT GRADE. In total I recall Ike jumping over a total of 150 senior officers, HERETOFORE UNHEARD OF IN ARMY HISTORY.

It was Baruch that held Ike out of politics in 1948, Baruch that decided which party he would run in in 1952.

In 1946 Patton and Ike were due to be reduced to PERMANENT rank, that would have made Patton Ikes senior once again.

Strangest thing tho, Patton died in a military hospital of a hear attack AFTER being involved in an accident.

Ike was an excellent paper shuffler, glad hander, all around good guy.

Patton was a General.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-20   14:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#32)

Ike was an excellent paper shuffler, glad hander, all around good guy.

Quite an athlete in his youth too.

I admit, you've made me far more curious about Baruch though. So many shadowy figures behind FDR, obviously he was one of them.

There is always a political schemer behind the scenes. Do you have any particular policy objective that Baruch intended for Ike to accomplish as prez?

I suppose Israel came out of the Suez War (called the Tripartite Aggression by Arabs) as the only member of the pact who got something out of Ike and the Soviets that way. Not sure how important it actually was to them. Probably the increase in border security with Egypt was more valuable than the shipping, at least until 1967. Perhaps the goal was to demonstrate national resolve and an effective military. It was ill-advised even if somewhat successful for Israel.


The three allies, especially Israel, were mainly successful in attaining their immediate military objectives, but pressure from the United States and the USSR at the United Nations and elsewhere forced them to withdraw. Britain and France completely failed in their political and strategic aim of controlling the canal. Israel fulfilled some of its objectives, attaining the freedom of navigation through the Straits of Tiran and the pacification of the Egyptian-Israeli border through UNEF.
Wiki further explains: "Eisenhower himself later stated privately that he regretted his opposition to the combined British, French and Israeli response to the Crisis.[59] After retiring from office Eisenhower came to see the Suez Crisis as perhaps his biggest foreign policy mistake. Not only did he feel that the United States weakened two crucial European Cold War allies, but he created in Nasser a man capable of dominating the Arab world."

Britain decolonized the last of its empire. DeGaulle's France, feeling betrayed by a premature British withdrawal and by American lack of support in Suez following on their defeat at Dien Ben Phu (another Ike decision), began a policy that led them to undermine NATO for the next sixty years.

So Israel might be considered the only winner of the Suez War but I don't see that it did them much good overall. The ill-will they earned cost more than it was ever worth.

Oh, well, at least the Canadians finally invented peacekeeping and got their own maple leaf flag, free of British and French colonial insignia at Egypt's insistence.

It surprises me how many otherwise well-read people know almost nothing about the role of Suez in ending the colonial era and marking the beginning of the real Cold War.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-20   15:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Turtle (#20)

Did your mother have any children that lived?

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2011-01-22   13:30:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: ghostdogtxn (#23)

There is a pretty good argument to be made that the Germans (who were, like most Europeans, already prone to anti-Semitism), took Sanger's ideas and other Eugenic ideas from the US to beef up their Nazi antisemitism.

What an absurd idea! The Germans had no need to beef up their so-called anti- semitism. The Versailles Treaty, largely conceived by the Zionists after WW1, not only ensured that there would be a second WW, but flagrantly penalized the Germans to such an extent that Germany seethed with resentment against those traitors and aliens that were usurping their country and its economy.

If most Europeans were prone to anti-semitism, it's possible they took a dim view of the Jewish-led Bolshevik holocaust, which was responsible for the grisly slaughter of 65-70,000,000 white Russians.

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-01-24   16:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: angK (#35)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-24   17:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: ghostdogtxn (#36)

That number keeps getting bigger. Reminds me of another holocaust figure. You aren't Jewish, are you?

Actually I posted the conservative figure. No I'm not Jewish, lol.

I want either less corruption or more opportunity to participate in it. Ashleigh Brilliant

angK  posted on  2011-01-24   17:56:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom, All (#33)

Following up on my earlier Suez post.

They rolled out tanks to help protect the Suez Canal. The yout's of Egypt are now jumping on the tanks protecting Suez.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-28   12:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: TooConservative (#33)

Do you have any particular policy objective that Baruch intended for Ike to accomplish as prez?

That is an excellent question, glad you asked.

The answer is no. Many wondered what was intended, good or bad, but I know of no one that ever ventured anything. Total blank.

One thing was certain however. To those of in the military, Ike turned totally against Russia, he came to realize, as had Patton, that Russia had eyes on all of Europe. In that vein, and in our line of business, Ike took it to the Russians in a very overt manner.

When he came out with the MIC speech, that solidified to many that Ike had become his own man. As far as history is concerned, his MIC speech made sure he will be neglected in history.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-28   13:17:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom (#39)

Hmmm...so you intimate in earlier posts that Baruch manipulated Ike into the presidency from a mediocre military career. Now you can't say what Baruch got out of it, if anything.

So now I'm not sure what your total view on Ike and/or Baruch actually is. Or how Baruch can be considered sinister if he got nothing out of supporting an officer's career and eventual presidency.

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-28   13:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: TooConservative (#40)

So now I'm not sure what your total view on Ike and/or Baruch actually is. Or how Baruch can be considered sinister if he got nothing out of supporting an officer's career and eventual presidency.

Easy...

Ike...Favorable for two reasons.

Ended the Korean war. Hung the bell on Russia and China.

Baruch...Odd that one man could make the decision to promote another over untold others in the military. Same man made the decision for which party Ike would run for president.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-28   16:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: ghostdogtxn, angK (#36)

Jewish-led Bolshevik holocaust, which was responsible for the grisly slaughter of 65-70,000,000 white Russians.

That number keeps getting bigger. Reminds me of another holocaust figure. You aren't Jewish, are you?

About ten to fifteen years ago the Russian organization "Remembrance" put the number of those murdered by the Communists/Wall Street funded Bolshevik Jews at about 27 million. Since then the accounting has continued upward as more and more has been uncovered. At this point the best estimates I am aware of are around 60 million, but that is subject to revision as the data gets better explored and quantified. 60 million also closely parallels the numbers murdered in China by that foul little pustule Mao tse Tung.

The interesting sidelight in the entire grisly mess is that the THREE million or so Jews killed in the German Work Kamps while ghastly is small compared to the numbers of Christians killed during the same 20th century - beginning with about Two Million in Armenia, followed by the Russian pogroms which accounted for unknown millions in Russia. And Christians were specifically targeted in Russia by the Bolshevik Jews and some of the Orthodox Priests were literally tortured to death in public. That does not mean I hate Jews but that Jews who whine about the holocaust being aimed at them (when nearly as many Gypsies were killed - as well as many who were simply infirm or mentally challenged) unsurprisingly have done their best to paint over and hide Jewish involvement, which was prominent, in the Armenian Genocide, and the persecution and murder of Christians in Russia. That by the way is one of the reasons Jewish groups had a cow a couple of years ago over the new prominence of the Armenian Genocide as Jews were very heavily involved in that murderous period of Armenian history. It was not just that they did not want the "killing of Jews" equated with the killing of "animals" but that they did not want it known or examined the extent to which Jews were involved in the Armenian Genocide and in Russia. During the Holodomor in the Ukraine where ten to eleven million people were starved to death the Cheka, which supervised the operation, was about 75 percent Jewish. Of course the Ukrainians were Orthodox Christians.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-28   16:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Original_Intent (#42)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-31   9:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: ghostdogtxn (#43)

True. And Zionist collaboration with the Nazis has been shown to be fact right out of the archives of the Turd Reich. Lenni Brenner wrote a book about it titled "51 Documents" where he reproduces some of the actual documents.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-31   13:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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