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Title: Justices Look Again at How Police May Search Homes
Source: NYT
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/13/us/13scotus.html?_r=3
Published: Jan 23, 2011
Author: ADAM LIPTAK
Post Date: 2011-01-23 16:25:55 by farmfriend
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Justices Look Again at How Police May Search Homes

By ADAM LIPTAK Published: January 12, 2011

WASHINGTON — More than 60 years ago, the Supreme Court ruled that the police were not entitled to enter a residence without a warrant merely because they smelled burning opium.

On Wednesday, at the argument of a case about what the police were entitled to do on smelling marijuana outside a Kentucky apartment, two justices voiced concerns that the court may be poised to eviscerate the older ruling.

“Aren’t we just simply saying they can just walk in whenever they smell marijuana, whenever they think there’s drugs on the other side?” Justice Sonia Sotomayor said, considering what a decision against the defendant would signal to the police. “Why do we even bother giving them a warrant?”

The old ruling, Johnson v. United States in 1948, involved the search of a hotel room in Seattle. The smell of drugs could provide probable cause for a warrant, Justice Robert H. Jackson wrote for the majority, but it did not entitle the police to enter without one.

“No suspect was fleeing or likely to take flight,” Justice Jackson wrote. “The search was of permanent premises, not of a movable vehicle. No evidence or contraband was threatened with removal or destruction.”

In the new case, police officers in Kentucky were looking for a suspect who had sold cocaine to an informant. They smelled burning marijuana coming from an apartment, knocked loudly and announced themselves.

Then they heard sounds from inside the apartment that they said made them fear evidence was being destroyed. They kicked the door in and found marijuana and cocaine but not the original suspect, who was in a different apartment.

The Kentucky Supreme Court suppressed the evidence, saying that any risk of drugs’ being destroyed was the result of the decision by the police to knock and announce themselves rather than to obtain a warrant.

Lawyers for Kentucky and the federal government told the justices on Wednesday that the lower court had erred. There had been no violation of the Fourth Amendment, which forbids unreasonable searches, they said, because the police had acted lawfully every step of the way.

Justice Elena Kagan expressed doubts about that approach.

A standard that looks only at the lawfulness of police behavior, Justice Kagan said, “is going to enable the police to penetrate the home, to search the home, without a warrant, without going to see a magistrate, in a very wide variety of cases.”

All the police need say, she said, is that they smelled marijuana and then heard a noise. “Or,” she continued, “we think there was some criminal activity going on for whatever reason and we heard noise.”

“How do you prevent,” Justice Kagan asked Joshua D. Farley, a Kentucky assistant attorney general, “your test from essentially eviscerating the warrant requirement in the context of the one place that the Fourth Amendment was most concerned about?”

Mr. Farley said that nothing the police had done in this case had violated the Fourth Amendment.

Justice Sotomayor was even more direct.

“Aren’t we just doing away with ‘Johnson’?” she asked.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg asked why the police could not simply roam the hallways of apartment buildings, sniffing; knock whenever they smell marijuana; then break in if they hear something suspicious.

Mr. Farley said, “That would be perfectly fine.”

Other justices appeared untroubled by the standard the government lawyers proposed.

“There are a lot of constraints on law enforcement,” Justice Antonin Scalia said, “and the one thing that it has going for it is that criminals are stupid.”

He said a sensible criminal would answer the door but decline to let the police enter without a warrant.

In a blog post, Orin S. Kerr, a law professor at George Washington University and an authority on the Fourth Amendment, said the case, Kentucky v. King, No. 09-1272, presented a tricky question based on murky facts.

But he said the police should not be allowed to take advantage of at least some of the circumstances their own conduct creates. Among those circumstances, he said, are the reactions of people who are made to believe that the police are about to conduct a forcible search of their homes. Subscribe to *Jack-Booted Thugs*

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#1. To: farmfriend (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-23   16:29:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eric Stratton (#1) (Edited)

I'd really like to know when cops are going to start taking their oath to uphold the constitution serious.

I need an oath keeper bumper sticker.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-01-23   16:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: farmfriend (#0)

Scalia is proof that the baby can die and the afterbirth live.

When he's not busy haranguing some hapless advocate from his perch on the U.S. Supreme Court bench, Justice Antonin Scalia likes to give speeches. But he expects to give them on his own terms. One is that he doesn't want any cameras or tape recorders on the premises.

www.ajr.org/%5C/Article.asp?id=3686

Scalia sez -

Women don't have constitutional protection against discrimination

Mere factual innocence is no reason not to carry out a death sentence properly reached

scalia supports/defends torture

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPqjCM6e5oM

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2011-01-23   18:07:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine, 5-to-4 ping! (#0)

Wanna bet me on how this is gonna turn out?

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2011-01-23   18:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: farmfriend (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-23   19:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#5)

It's like hell-fucking-O!

Exactly!


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-01-23   20:37:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eric Stratton (#1)

I have a hunch that all of a sudden pigs are going to be smelling an awful lot of marijuana or other stuff.

Legalization is the cure for this blatant case of creating laws that make criminals of everyone.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break into pieces. Etienne de la Boetie

noone222  posted on  2011-01-24   5:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-24   7:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eric Stratton (#8)

And what makes this a moral morass is that many if not most or close to all LEOs or equivalent seem to enjoy this shit.

I wouldn't survive long in that environment. I moved to a small town because I had become disenchanted with city life. Everyone here knows everyone else including the cops which makes it difficult for them to operate as they do in a large city.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break into pieces. Etienne de la Boetie

noone222  posted on  2011-01-24   7:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222 (#9)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-24   8:19:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: farmfriend (#0)

I am loathe to agree with Obongo's picks on the Court but they seem to have some notion of civil rights.

Wonder which way Kennedy will flip?

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-24   9:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Eric Stratton (#8)

No doubt, but think about it, are they headed more in the direction of freeing us up and not making us criminals? ... or more headed in the direction of giving themselves more and more reasons to arrest us for "spitting on the sidewalk" and then carting us away at their discretion and pleasure?

The poor are being criminalized to frenetically rake in revenue for financially floundering states, the various subdivisions (counties, cities, etc.) within them, and the gargantuan maze of "facilities" employing the unjudicious Police State apparatus and its facilitators.

Constitutionalists should start building an interconnected, gated community of sorts with their own private economic system that could offer employment which many of them might choose to transition to gladly. We could all work on renovating abandoned buildings for housing, they could do guard duty, and that sort of thing in the early stages, pay ourselves and transact in club currency. That's the quickest and easiest way, imo, for those enmeshed in the system we don't need or want to give some thoughtful consideration to making career moves into a better system with better values and a more congenial atmosphere.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-01-24   11:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: farmfriend (#0)

Justice Sonia Sotomay

She's taking into consideration the amount of reefer inhaled by wetbacks.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-24   11:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Turtle (#13)

LOL no doubt.


Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend  posted on  2011-01-24   12:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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