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Title: ATF technical classifications create back door ‘gun control’
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URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights- ... s-create-back-door-gun-control
Published: Jan 25, 2011
Author: David Codrea
Post Date: 2011-01-25 10:44:18 by christine
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Views: 90
Comments: 3

Will .22 rimfires fall under new reporting controls? Will CA bullet button system be classified as detachable magazine?

The following was provided to me by a source who has proven reliable over the years. It was given to him by an ATF insider with the specific request to be forwarded to me. I am reproducing it here unedited and in its entirety as I received it:

It appears the new technical experts at ATF headquarters are making another technical determination in their new bid to classify firearms in a prohibitive way. We are all now aware that ATF will be requiring a multiple sales report an all rifles with a detachable magazine and a caliber larger than .220. The rationale for this is to stop assault type rifles going south of the border. It was not very well thought out in the planning stages. But when headquarters personnel make a plan it generally isn’t good and it is implemented and who cares. If ATF was so concerned with monitoring what types of firearms were being trafficked why were the firearms they want to stop not properly described? What are these boneheads really doing? All firearms owners know the .22 caliber rimfire is .224[*] in diameter. So if someone buys more than one Ruger 10/22 is a multiple sale form required? In accordance with the ATF plan it is. This plan also brought up the true ATF anti gun agenda which is what to do about the California bullet button. If you don’t know, gun owners in California cannot own an AR15 that accepts a detachable magazine. A well thought out design was created in which the magazine off an AR15 can only come out with a tool. The magazine release is replaced with a latch with an internal release. A tool called a bullet button is inserted into the replacement magazine release to drop the magazine. In California, the most restrictive state for gun owners, this was defined as not being a detachable magazine. Yet ATF is going to redefine this system. To further the anti gun agenda ATF is classifying the bullet button system as a detachable magazine. ATF has the intention of defining, what a tool is, how much time it takes in the use of the tool to remove the magazine, and the time to install the replacement magazine catch. The reason this is such critical issue is because the ATF experts were watching U Tube and found a young kid rapidly detaching the magazine. If this young kid could do it then it must be a new super device that all the drug cartels will be buying and replacing the normal magazine release on all of their AR type rifles. (Just sarcasm.) In this fervor to prohibit gun ownership by attacking any detachable magazine gun above .220 they never thought about receivers. Under the new reporting instructions AR15 receivers are not regulated, nor are completely assembled AR15 receivers without an upper receiver regulated. I am sure that ATF must know this which lends credence that this is just a new agenda for the ATF gun grabbers. Does anyone believe that if the ATF defines the bullet button as a detachable magazine federally that California will not redefine their law? Sorry California gun owners we really don’t care.

[*Specifications: Bullet diameter: .223; Neck diameter: .225; Base diameter: .225; Rim diameter: .275]

The business about .22s being caught up in the new oversight proposal is something I’ve been discussing with others, just the other day with fellow Gun Rights Examiners Liston Matthews and Kurt Hofmann, and earlier with a reader and correspondent who uses the screen name “W3”, himself a retired Texas peace officer.

I was not intending to say anything about this at this time, because as W3 put it in an email he sent me over a month ago:

If ATF's word-twisters haven't already figured this out I really don't intend, or want, to educate them prematurely. It's more fun to educate a lawyer in a courtroom in front of a jury and his peers.

I was pretty sure that I had read somewhere that, like the .S&W 38 caliber pistol projectile being actually .357 of an inch in diameter, .22 caliber projectiles aren’t actually .220 of an inch in diameter. The .22 rim-fire is actually .223” – .224”.

Did a Google search and found the answer on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle

I’m wondering if the ATF wordtwisters are aware that there is no true .22 caliber long gun round and that if they are allowed to require FFL reporting two or more sales of only (1) semi-auto long guns, (2) over .22 caliber, and (3) with a detachable magazine. That their hidden agenda is to actually require FFLs to report on two or more sales of all semi-auto long guns with a detachable magazine.

This new information preempts any intent I had about just sitting back and watching, particularly with the California bullet button development. What it, along with today’s anticipated Saiga ruling point to are back door gun control measures being implemented with no accountability or oversight.

This is not representative legislation with checks and balances to protect against overreach, usurpation and abuse, this is rule by edict. This is more power being assumed by people whose actions raise serious concerns about how they use the power they’ve already got.

It has to stop. Or we have to stop it.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

This is not representative legislation with checks and balances to protect against overreach, usurpation and abuse, this is rule by edict.

In an administrative system of law legislation may set up agencies to "administer" policy. That's what we have.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break into pieces. Etienne de la Boetie

noone222  posted on  2011-01-25   10:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

I predict that soon the nazi b-atf will be wearing ski-masks like their Messican-Tico brethren..and good riddance to the likes of the masked fascists all over the world.

Oh, nevermind..


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2011-01-25   11:24:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

It appears the new technical experts at ATF headquarters are making another technical determination in their new bid to classify firearms in a prohibitive way.

What BS. I'm just glad that I've already bought everything I want.

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X-15  posted on  2011-01-26   17:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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