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Title: Manic Metric Monday: Scientists Rethink the Kilogram--
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URL Source: http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/24 ... nk-the-kilogram/#ixzz1C4McrMyy
Published: Jan 25, 2011
Author: Nick Carbone
Post Date: 2011-01-25 13:34:01 by gengis gandhi
Keywords: None
Views: 538
Comments: 31

Manic Metric Monday: Scientists Rethink the Kilogram By: Nick Carbone (1 day ago) Topics: kilogram, Mass, measures, metric system, royal society, Science, weights kilo2

Monday kicks off an urgent meeting between some of the greatest minds in science, a debate that could result in a rethinking of the most elemental scientific measurements. Will the kilogram ever be the same?

The researchers are gathering at the Royal Society in London to discuss adjusting the fundamental mass of the kilogram.

The kilogram is the only unit in the International System of Units (SI) whose measurement is based on a physical object. And anyone who's ever stepped on a scale knows how unkind Father Time can be to a person's weight.

Turns out the keepers of the kilo are facing the same problem.

(More on TIME.com: See the top 10 amazing scientific discoveries of 2010.)

Currently, the kilogram is based on the mass of a platinum-iridium bar stored in a vault in a Parisian suburb. Aside from sounding like it should be the target of a heist in the next crime thriller, scientists estimate the bar's mass may have actually changed by 50 micrograms over the years, which they note is “the mass of a small grain of sand 0.4 mm in diameter.”

(More on TIME.com: See a brief history of the periodic table.)

The best and the brightest in science will meet to work out a constant on which the kilogram can be based. They anticipate it will be tied to the value of the Planck constant, h, which reflects the size of the smallest particles of physical matter in quantum physics.

But don't jump on the scale just yet - there's no set date to officially recalibrate the kilo's mass. (via Royal Society)

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#2. To: gengis gandhi (#0)

Currently, the kilogram is based on the mass of a platinum-iridium bar stored in a vault in a Parisian suburb. Aside from sounding like it should be the target of a heist in the next crime thriller, scientists estimate the bar's mass may have actually changed by 50 micrograms over the years, which they note is “the mass of a small grain of sand 0.4 mm in diameter.”

I don't get it.

Are they saying the platinum or iridium atoms have gone somewhere else? Have they handled it so much that it's knocked some atoms off the bar?

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-25   14:21:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#2)

i just figured its more weirdness.

if measurements all get screwy, we're gonna have real fun.

'space and time makin love' Montrose, Space Station No. 5

gengis gandhi  posted on  2011-01-25   14:37:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: gengis gandhi, TooConservative (#3)

What it suggests is that mass is not a constant. The implications reach further than the Kilogram, but are suggestive of fundamental principles of the physical universe which are not yet known or understood within the envelope of traditional physics.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-25   15:14:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#4)

It's a lousy article really. Doesn't tell us anything meaningful except we are all getting heavier as compared to the Supreme Ingot in France. Either it is getting lighter for some reason or there is an unaccounted difference in measurement that has appeared over the years as a result of the instuments or because the mass of the earth is not constant (which seems unlikely but is not impossible).

TooConservative  posted on  2011-01-25   16:56:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TooConservative (#5)

The mass of the Earth is not constant. Meteorites add mass and escaping gasses decrease it. The net total is a very slight increase over time I think.

They must mean the mass of the bar is getting lighter, not heavier. If they know the mass has gotten lighter I don't see what the problem is, they still know what a kilogram is suppose to weigh or they wouldn't have known it has gotten lighter. It very well could be that with better scales the more accurate weight of the bar is being revealed for the first time. As long as the scales are properly calibrated to what we say a kilogram is now, there shouldn't be a problem even if they lost that bar. I think the mass of kilogram should be based on the atomic weight of hydrogen times X(whatever number necessary to be as close as possible to today's definition of a kilogram) to be as accurate as possible. The atomic weight of hydrogen will always be a constant, at least as far as we presently know.

RickyJ  posted on  2011-01-25   21:46:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: RickyJ (#9)

The mass of the Earth is not constant. Meteorites add mass and escaping gasses decrease it. The net total is a very slight increase over time I think.

Seems negligible. But then the article doesn't impart much actual science and chooses to focus on why we, the Fat People Of The Earth, seem to keep getting heavier which is just stupid.

This is very dumbed down science reporting. Below the level of even something like the old Omni magazine.

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