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Title: Bachmann: Founding fathers ‘worked tirelessly’ to end slavery (Gotta Love This ....)
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Published: Jan 26, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-01-26 08:24:32 by tom007
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Bachmann: Founding fathers ‘worked tirelessly’ to end slavery

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bachmannafp Bachmann: Founding fathers worked tirelessly to end slaveryWASHINGTON – Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) said the United States was founded on racial and ethnic diversity and that the founding fathers were responsible for abolishing slavery.

Speaking at an event sponsored by Iowans For Tax Relief, Bachmann hailed the "different cultures, different backgrounds, different traditions" of the early European settlers in America, adding that the "color of their skin" or "language" or "economic status" didn't preclude them from seeking happiness.

"Once you got here, we were all the same," she said. "Isn't that remarkable? It is absolutely remarkable."

The Minnesota Republican called slavery an "evil" and "scourge" and "stain on our history."

"But we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States," Bachmann added, claiming "men like John Quincy Adams... would not rest until slavery was extinguished in the country."

Slavery was an institution in the United States for generations after its founding in 1776, largely due to a compromise between the founders that established African-Americans as three-fifths of a person. Several of the founding fathers themselves held slaves.

One of the framers, Thomas Jefferson, famously fathered children with Sally Hemmings, one of his slaves.

Slavery was not fully abolished until 1865, when the United States ratified the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution that expressly forbade it. Though he wasn't one of the founders, John Quincy Adams is credited by historians as having been a strong opponent of slavery.

A tea party hero, Bachmann has earned something of a cult following with her vicious attacks and occasionally conspiratorial claims about the Obama administration. She's also no stranger to factual inaccuracies. Bill Adlair, editor of the Pulitzer Prize-winning PolitiFact, said her claims tend to be false more often than just about any other politician.

Bachmann announced plans to give her own response to President Barack Obama's State of the Union address Tuesday, though Republicans said hers would not be the party's official rebuttal.

This video is Bachmann's speech, uploaded to YouTube.

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

Founding fathers ‘worked tirelessly’ to end slavery

Pure Barbara Streisand. The 'founders' institutionalized slavery through their coup d'état, commonly referred to as the US Constitution.

The Thirteenth Amendment: Essentially has in practice made every citizen a criminal, and a slave. Is not Income Tax and involuntary so-called 'military service' slavery? Of course we all know Lincoln, the 'greatest president' had nothing to do with this, move along, nothing to see......

"Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation".

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-01-26   10:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lysander_Spooner (#1)

they should have stopped at the Declaration of Independence.

christine  posted on  2011-01-26   10:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#2)

Although I am usually disagreeable, I can't find a reason to disagree with your statement ;)

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-01-26   12:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tom007 (#0)

Thomas Jefferson did more than anyone to end slavery. His amendment to not allow slavery in new states lost by one vote. He spend his fortune reuniting slaves with families. Because of this he died deeply in debt.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-26   12:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tom007, Christine, All (#0)

Slavery was not fully abolished until 1865, when the United States ratified the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution that expressly forbade it

Cut the Fathers some slack.

We didnt do much better.

Child labor over age of six was not...OUTLAWED UNTIL 1934...

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-26   12:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007 (#0)

"Founding fathers ‘worked tirelessly’ to end slavery"

The Civil War is ancient history and Lincoln is enshrined in a big stone temple, so she just assumed he was a founding father.

I bet half her critics couldn't tell you, within 50 years, the time that passed between when the Constitution was ratified and the slaves were freed.

Big Meanie  posted on  2011-01-26   12:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#5)

Child labor over age of six was not...OUTLAWED UNTIL 1934...

Most of the farmers around here only learn their kids names so they can boss em around !!! (hehehehe).

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break into pieces. Etienne de la Boetie

noone222  posted on  2011-01-26   13:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#7)

Most of the farmers around here only learn their kids names so they can boss em around !!! (hehehehe).

That fit me way back.

Farmers were exempt from child labor laws.

At ages of 8 and 9, twenty five cents a day bought a farmer a lot of sweat.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-26   13:18:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#5)

It is difficult for us to imagine the world that many of our ancestors lived in, the world that States inhabited in their infancy as republics. Servitude was so deeply woven into the fabric of social and bread and butter institutions that centuries of struggle were necessary to root it out.

Elizabeth I formally ended serfdom in England in 1574. In Western Europe it took nearly another 250 years to put an end to serfdom in the wake of the French Revolution and the gradual liberalization of laws in the states and cities of Germany and Austria. The last vestiges of it were not eradicated until the national revolutions of 1848. In Russia, whose aristocrats were still allowed to buy and sell their serfs - and sometimes lose them at the gaming table - serfdom was not outlawed until 1861. Slavery had a long and bloody history in Latin America as well. The institution came to an end with the independence of Latin nations from Spain and Portugal in the 19th century and lingered on in Brazil until 1888.

Warning: The linked image depicts a public official engaged in unhygienic acts. The poster is not responsible for violent upset on the part of viewers.

randge  posted on  2011-01-26   13:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: randge (#9)

Thanks...

Man DOES NOT have a moral past concerning his fellow man.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-26   14:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#10)

We like to put things in context here at 4um. ;]

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randge  posted on  2011-01-26   14:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#8)

Most of the farmers around here only learn their kids names so they can boss em around !!!

I should have added that they're closer than most families because of this fact.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break into pieces. Etienne de la Boetie

noone222  posted on  2011-01-26   14:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: tom007 (#0)

video here: http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2011/01/25/sotu.bachmann.response.cnn

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-01-26   15:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#5)

Child labor was outlawed so that lazy adults in unions could eliminate competition.

My sons, at age 8, helped me put in a septic system and drain field, it took two weeks, their main job was chopping roots out of the trenches. They still speak fondly of to this day, as an accomplishment, which it was.

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-01-26   16:49:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lysander_Spooner (#14)

Child labor was outlawed so that lazy adults in unions could eliminate competition.

Actually that is not the case.

Child labor in factories was not outlawed until 1934 when American males were unemployed to the tune of 15 millions, finally climbing to near 20 million at advent of WW2.

The exception was child farm labor. I recall many a day working sunup to sundown for 25 cents. The farmers could hire four of us vs one man for a dollar a day.

The US Supreme Court, twice in early 20th century ruled that it was the RIGHT of a child age six and over to be employed in factories or any other employment.

Been there, did that, didnt like it and will never forget it. Never. Then when someone decided on a war, who were the first ones dragged off???? Farmers were exempt. College students were exempt.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-26   17:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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