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Title: Education Majors Have the Lowest IQs of all College Majors
Source: UncleBob's Treehouse
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Published: Jan 26, 2011
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2011-01-26 11:58:14 by Turtle
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Views: 2063
Comments: 32

Well, except for perhaps a degree like P.E. or anything else an athlete gets, which is why the word “dumbjock” is one word. But there are so few of them they don’t impact society, and everyone knows they’re given their degrees, so they’re not taken seriously.

Education majors are a different story. I graduated from the largest producers of Education majors in a very large state. I won’t name it.

I met a lot of Education majors. None of them had any brains to speak of, except for a male friend of mine, who went on to get an M.S. in Economics.

He was the only guy I met who was an Education major. All the rest were women, and all of them were dumb. Education majors have the lowest IQs and lowest SAT/ACT scores of all majors in college. Philosophy majors have the highest, but try to get a job with a degree in Philosophy.

I did know one guy with a degree in Philosophy who managed a carwash. He redesigned them to make them more efficient, so when the company built a new one, they followed his design. But he still managed a carwash.

I was in fact more than a little disturbed at the stupidity of Education majors. I’m going to repeat: I never met a smart one, and I only met one male, who is still one of my friends.

When I got out of college I met quite a few teachers and principals. Same thing: all women, all stupid. Not stupid because they were women, but stupid because they were Education majors. And now they were principals? Oh my God.

Education degrees are worthless. They shouldn’t even be degrees. It takes four years of classes to be a teacher? Please. I’m not that stupid to believe that. After all, I have a degree, too. And mine’s worthless.

I would never let my kids go to a public school. What the heck does it take 12 years to learn anyway? I could read and do arithmetic in the first grade. I tell people I never learned a thing beyond the fourth grade, and I didn’t, either.

I was so bored in high school I did little more than daydream, and on weekends I partied, drank and got high. I was one of the wild boys, as least compared to the drones in school.

I would live in a double-wide trailer in a rural area and homeschool my kids before I let the Black Thing known as public schools get hold of them. I read an article a few years ago about an eccentric man who lived with his daughter in a tent in a park. He taught her from a Bible and a set of encyclopedias. When the authorities caught them I believe she had just turned 12.

She was described as “unusually intelligent and knowledgeable.” Do tell. Imagine that. And not one day in public schools.

The best way to teach any kid is by being a mentor. The mentor sits at one end of a log and the student at the other. If the student messes up the teacher just bounces him in the air. I’m just kidding about that, but I’m not kidding about sitting on the log.

Now that I think about it, I never dated any Education major. They bored me. Stupid people always do.

And now that I think about it, not once did I see a library in any Education major’s room. For that matter, not even one book that wasn’t a textbook.

Like I said, a worthless degree. And as teachers, worthless, too.

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

I dated a fembot teacher once, what a complete dumbass. Her attitude was kinda like Eric Cartman, "I do what I want", so I let her. Divorced, two small kids, living in a shitty rental, I hear she now has herpes(not from me), Jebus, it's the muthafn 'Merican dream !!

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2011-01-26   12:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#0)

Like I said, a worthless degree. And as teachers, worthless, too.

I have a young man, just turned 17 that I have taken under my wing, reluctantly.

He is wasting his time in pubic skool, so I am badgering his parents to enroll him in private school ASAP. Over the past year or so I have had long questions and answer sessions with him, until recently. He showed up a few days ago, sat at my table and asked, "I have a teacher that says I have been brain washed since kiddy garter, is that true"....

When I affirmed the fact, he was taken aback and said, "You mean they have been lying to me"... I struck quick, not only have they lied, they have omitted much that would enlighten you.

His next question was, "What about the Fed Res...

That was it, I am stuck, undoing years of pubic education.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-26   12:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#2) (Edited)

His next question was, "What about the Fed Res...

I didn't even know what that was at 17.

Too bad I never had a mentor. I have a well-known writer friend of mine who was in the Boy Scouts for years. I understood why as soon as he told me.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-26   12:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Turtle (#3)

Too bad I never had a mentor.

I had three.

All much older, all highly educated, all experienced in life and packed with wisdom from having lived history.

This young man I have ordered, "The Creature from Jekyll Island" for, I told him to read it and we will start there.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-26   12:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lysander_Spooner (#1)

I dated a fembot teacher once

My last year and a half in college I live in a studio apartment attached to a house full of girls. It was bizarre. Some of them were elementary education majors and as I got to know them I slowly stopped talking to them. They weren't much smarter than tree stumps.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-26   13:20:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle (#0)

I met a lot of Education majors. None of them had any brains to speak of

Having omitted any data breaking this down by eye color, no scientific validity can be attached to this story.

Buzzard  posted on  2011-01-26   13:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Buzzard (#6)

Having omitted any data breaking this down by eye color, no scientific validity can be attached to this story.

I read an article not too long ago that said, based on SAT/ACT scores, the average IQ of Education majors was 99.3.

I wonder how they even got into college.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-26   13:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Turtle (#0)

Well, this explains a number of things. But it's not a great surprise nor particularly illogical. Education majors have the goal of CONVEYING information and ideas worked up by other people; almost any other major looks forward to INNOVATING and synthesizing new ideas and such.

A career as a teacher is not so well-paying that it attracts the very best minds. Frequently you'll find in HIGHER education, that the distinguished teachers - whether of art or of science - did not set out as Education majors, but rather majoring in the very topic they teach.

Shoonra  posted on  2011-01-26   14:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Turtle (#7)

I read an article not too long ago that said, based on SAT/ACT scores, the average IQ of Education majors was 99.3.

I work with a number of educators and the vast majority of them have earned my respect.

A person doesn't need to be Mensa material to in order to educate children. Appropriate curriculum & lesson planning, experience, passion and having a classroom of motivated students all factor into the learning calculus.

But beyond the scope of education itself, many of them do strike me as lacking in common sense.

Buzzard  posted on  2011-01-26   14:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Turtle, 4 (#7) (Edited)

Back in the sixties, colleges were inexpensive party, marriage, and stay out of Vietnam factories.

Two of my HS classmates are using their degrees, both are doctors. I learned a lot, but not in the classroom.

Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.

Lod  posted on  2011-01-26   14:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Turtle (#7) (Edited)

I read an article not too long ago that said, based on SAT/ACT scores, the average IQ of Education majors was 99.3.

I wonder how they even got into college.

The two sentences written above should merit deducting at least three points from your IQ, Turtle. Seven tenths of one percent the average high for all of society isn't even significant. Apparently you do not realize that the average is a range of five points between 95-100 IQ. Hence, the education majors you speak of are on the high end of the AVERAGE for all society. With an average that high on the range, MANY MUST BE ABOVE AVERAGE to get that result. Do you realize that the "normal" range goes from 80-120? So, this group is smack dab in the middle.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-01-26   14:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: abraxas (#11)

I wonder how you got into college sometimes.

Ab...

That is unkind.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-26   14:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom, Turtle (#12)

That is unkind.

You are right Cyni.

That was in response to Turtle stating that he wonders how education majors get into college.........

Two wrongs do not make a right, even if Turtle doesn't know what he is talking about. Sorry Turtle.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-01-26   14:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: abraxas (#13)

You are right Cyni.

That was in response to Turtle stating that he wonders how education majors get into college.........

Two wrongs do not make a right, even if Turtle doesn't know what he is talking about. Sorry Turtle.

AB...

You are a scholar and a lady. Thank you.

I was told, dont bother to take the SAT, you are not qualified. I took their word as they were college educated and I was a nobody.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-26   16:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: abraxas (#11)

Do you realize that the "normal" range goes from 80-120? So, this group is smack dab in the middle.

ah, a 99.3 is nothing to brag about. Surely you know this. And no, I don't give a crap about my grammar or sentence structure. I see this by design to be honest. Who wants to put up with teaching kids for low to median pay when better opportunities exist without the headaches? The elite want kids dumbed down, so they seek those with lower IQs on purpose to teach them. I would suspect those with higher IQs are driven out of the profession fairly fast through all of the idiocy they are required to endure.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-01-26   17:04:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Turtle (#7)

I read an article not too long ago that said, based on SAT/ACT scores, the average IQ of Education majors was 99.3.

I wonder how they even got into college.

They got into college because they were education majors, duh! Most other majors would have been a problem for the majority of them. When students are failing in other majors and are thinking about dropping out of college guess what major colleges try to get them to switch to in an effort to keep them as students? This is by design of the elite. It sucks and is a big reason why homeschooling has grown so much. Yes there are some very good and bright teachers, but they are a minority, and a exception to the rule.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-01-26   17:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Turtle (#0)

"The average Ph.D. thesis is nothing but a transference of bones from one graveyard to another." - J. Frank Dobie

__________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2011-01-26   17:24:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: RickyJ (#15)

h, a 99.3 is nothing to brag about

Noting that it is AVERAGE isn't bragging. Do you honestly believe that people opt to become teachers for the pay RickyJ?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-01-26   18:20:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: X-15 (#17)

lol...that's priceless. In undergraduate studies taking the work of others and passing it off as your own is called plagiarism. Once in graduate school, it is called research.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-01-26   18:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Turtle (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-26   21:41:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Turtle, Buzzard (#7)

I read an article not too long ago that said, based on SAT/ACT scores, the average IQ of Education majors was 99.3.

Well that puts them dead smack in the middle of the Bell Curve. Average Normal I.Q. range is 90 - 110.

Jill St. John, a Red Hed, is 190.

I've always been a sucker for Red Heads.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-26   21:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: abraxas (#11)

Do you realize that the "normal" range goes from 80-120?

85 and below -- moron

85-100 -- dull normal

100 -- average

126 -- Turtle

I do know statistics. Mean, median, bell curves, etc.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-27   11:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Turtle, abraxas (#22)

126 -- Turtle

Nonsense...

The man wrote 12.6 on your report. hehehehehehehe

snicker snarf.

Cynicom  posted on  2011-01-27   11:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Turtle (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-27   11:21:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: ghostdogtxn (#24)

This has been true for a long time. My dad told me it was true when he went to college in the early 60s.

I dated a couple education majors.

Yeah, it's true.

This was something I learned my first term of my Freshman year. The most notorious were the ditzy "Elementary Education" Majors. Some of them are really quite nice as people, but were capable of making Gilda Radner look coherent.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-27   11:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Cynicom (#23)

The man wrote 12.6 on your report. hehehehehehehe

It's not that high, but I use what I have.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-27   11:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: ghostdogtxn (#24)

I dated a couple education majors.

I never met even one I was the slightest bit interested in.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-27   11:56:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Turtle (#27)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-27   12:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: abraxas (#18)

Noting that it is AVERAGE isn't bragging.

You did more than note it was average.

Hence, the education majors you speak of are on the high end of the AVERAGE for all society. With an average that high on the range, MANY MUST BE ABOVE AVERAGE to get that result.

Forgive me for seeing that as bragging, but that is the way it came across to me.

Do you honestly believe that people opt to become teachers for the pay RickyJ?

I never said that. But since you brought it up, what do you think most are becoming teachers for if not for the pay?

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-01-27   15:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: RickyJ (#29)

But since you brought it up, what do you think most are becoming teachers for if not for the pay?

Do you know how an average is obtained Ricky? That's all the sentences were explaining, within any average you have folks over and under the bar.

I honestly believe that most teachers go into the profession because they actually think they can make a difference in this world. We're really screwed when folks quite believing that. I think the average pay is $35K a year......not much of a draw, although three months off a year must lure some into the field.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

abraxas  posted on  2011-01-27   15:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: abraxas (#30)

I honestly believe that most teachers go into the profession because they actually think they can make a difference in this world.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions, especially when the pavers have no brains.

"If ever this vast country is brought under a single government, it will be one of the most extensive corruption, indifferent and incapable of a wholesome care over so wide a spread of surface. This will not be borne, and you will have to choose between reform and revolution. If I know the spirit of this country, the one or the other is inevitable." - Thomas Jefferson

Turtle  posted on  2011-01-28   16:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: abraxas, Turdle, Turtle, all (#11)

I read an article not too long ago that said, based on SAT/ACT scores, the average IQ of Education majors was 99.3.

I wonder how they even got into college.

The two sentences written above should merit deducting at least three points from your IQ, Turtle. Seven tenths of one percent the average high for all of society isn't even significant. Apparently you do not realize that the average is a range of five points between 95-100 IQ. Hence, the education majors you speak of are on the high end of the AVERAGE for all society. With an average that high on the range, MANY MUST BE ABOVE AVERAGE to get that result. Do you realize that the "normal" range goes from 80-120? So, this group is smack dab in the middle.

Although to clarify the Average Normal Range is considered to be 90 - 110. While there are goodly numbers below and above the 110 number they are respectively considered subnormal - 80-90 considered formally a moron, and 110 to 120 slightly above the norm. (As a reference side note JFK was 117 and Lee Harvey Oswald 118 - based upon my reading.) Beyond and below that 80-120 range the numbers get smaller and smaller based upon the normal distribution. 99.3 would be just about dead center of the normal distribution.

As far as 4um goes I would guess the normal distribution would center higher - likely around 125 - 130.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-28   16:40:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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