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Title: The Coming Collapse of Sex Roles
Source: UncleBob's Treehouse
URL Source: http://uncabob.blogspot.com/
Published: Jan 30, 2011
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2011-01-30 14:16:00 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 935
Comments: 33

There is a bit of a problem with sex roles these days, and I don’t think they can continue on the course they’re on.

My view is that feminism was not a response to oppression, but boredom. Men’s inventions had made life so much easier that the more intelligent women, many of them not being able to overcome the challenge of leisure, became bored and wanted to move into the traditionally male fields.

One of the problems is that they did not want to become coal miners or loggers or steel mill workers or garbage men. They didn’t want any hot, dangerous, dirty, sweaty jobs. They wanted to move into relatively easy, indoor, well-paying work.

Since they were now working full-time, they wanted men to share housework. This does seem fair, but what these women were saying is, “I want access to the more pleasant male role, but I want men to help with the less-pleasant female role.” But men changed and accepted this.

But at the same time, men were not allowed access to the more pleasant female role, such as staying home with the kids. Almost all women would be outraged if they made a very high salary and their husbands expected their wives to support them.

See what I’m saying? Women wanted access to the good part of being a male, but not the bad part. They wanted men to accept the unpleasant parts of the female role but not the pleasant parts. So where exactly did men benefit in all of this?

And at the same time, hallucinations about “patriarchy” and “male oppression” became the accepted reality. Men, who are responsible for civilization and technology, became the Bad Guys. Women, who as Camille Paglia so famously noted, would be unable to advance civilization beyond the level of grass huts, became the Good Guys.

Again, where exactly did men benefit from all of this?

Worse, Affirmative Action, which means “White Men Need Not Apply,” has enshrined quotas into law and prevented qualified men from being hired in the numbers they should be hired.

So what happened is women with advanced degrees and making good salaries looked around and found there was a shortage of men they thought were suitable. So, without husband, home and children, they became hostile and bitter – and I have seen many of them.

I have also seen many of these women making good salaries still expect men to ask them out. I’ve met women who in their entire lives never asked any man they were interested in out for a cup of coffee.

Again, they didn’t want to shoulder any of the more unpleasant aspects of the male role. They didn’t want to risk rejection, and still don’t. However, it’s still okay for the man to risk it.

I’ve met women who married the wrong guy (who asked them out), got divorced, got drunk one night, and called some guy they knew years ago, wondering if he was available. Then they found he was happily married, with children, many years ago. Who’s to blame for this – him, or her?

Years ago I drove a taxi and got to know quite a few hookers. It was enlightening the things I saw. I’d take these girls to their customers and wait for them. A noticeable number of the guys didn’t do anything but watch some videos with the girls. They were paying for their company on a lonely Friday night.

Where is “patriarchy” and “male oppression” in something like that?

I can’t see these unnatural sex roles continuing. They’ll have to change; I just don’t know when. But sooner or later, they’ll change - once the heartbreak gets bad enough.

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

My view is that feminism was not a response to oppression, but boredom.

Feminism was a means to get income tax from half of the population that wasn't paying it. Men were duped and women were duped. Bonus, breaking up the family unit creates more government dependence. It was never about real benefits for men or for women, Turtle.

Based on the faulty premise to begin your argument, the rest is just a loosely knit bunch of assumptions and broad generalizations that ignore the true intent of the movement, the predictable results and the consequences for society.

abraxas  posted on  2011-01-30   14:22:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: abraxas (#1)

Feminism was a means to get income tax from half of the population that wasn't paying it. Men were duped and women were duped. Bonus, breaking up the family unit creates more government dependence. It was never about real benefits for men or for women, ...

Exactly. That is made clear by Gloria Slime'em's admission that the CIA provided the seed money for starting Ms. Magazine. Now there's a term that has dropped out of use among all but the PC - "Ms.".

As you point out part of it was to get the female serfs working, but that is not all of it. Just as important to the controllers/Psychiatrists, if not more so, was breaking up the family unit.

By getting women sold on the idea of being just a differently abled drone it put children under the increasing control, and programming, of the government. This in turn undermined the concept of a free society. Women in any event were chafing at the bit and tired of being subordinated - and thus change was coming along naturally. The nascent "Women's Liberation Movement" was co-opted and turned into that social disease known as feminism. Just as the Civil Rights Movement was perverted into black nationalism and just another form of hate. The reason feminism did not work as well as the perversion of Civil Rights is that most normal women do not readily hate men. Which is why the National Organization became dominated by Lesbians who do. And equally most men do not desire to subjugate women, but were trapped by traditional culture as well which is why the original Women's Liberation worked - as it merely asserted full equality for women - not the false equality and male bashing of feminism. Thus the planted meme that women who did want to be homemakers were somehow less than those who desired something more.

However, the family unit is a viable construct because it fits the survival needs of men and women and provides for the safe rearing of children. It also excludes the state other than by its forcible intrusion into the family through various laws that have increasingly subordinated the rights and prerogatives of parents to the model preferred by the State which is in turn shaped by the controlling banksters and the Psychiatrists.

"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances toward our Founding Fathers, toward his parents, toward our elected officials, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It's up to you, teachers, to make all of these sick children well by creating the international child of the future." Chester Pierce, Harvard University, Professor of Education and Psychiatry, Emeritus, to a 1973 Education Seminar in Denver.

"The family is now one of the major obstacles to improved mental health, and hence should be weakened, if possible, so as to free individuals and especially children from the coercion of family life." International Congress on Mental Health, London, 1948

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#13. To: Original_Intent, abraxas, Turtle (#11)

The reason feminism did not work as well as the perversion of Civil Rights is that most normal women do not readily hate men.

don't discount the importance of Christian teaching all this as well.

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