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Title: PATRIOT ACT EXTENSION FAILS
Source: Campaign for Liberty
URL Source: http://AbMail
Published: Feb 8, 2011
Author: C4L
Post Date: 2011-02-08 20:32:58 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 2926
Comments: 90

PATRIOT ACT EXTENSION FAILS

Thanks to your dedicated efforts, the motion to suspend the rules and pass the extension of three PATRIOT Act provisions failed tonight in the House of Representatives! Since they were attempting to pass it on the suspension calendar, the vote required two thirds (290 members) of the House to agree to it.

The vote came down to the wire, and you could hear the arms breaking on Capitol Hill out here in Springfield, VA.

By a vote of 277-148, the House failed to pass the extension - click here for the roll call vote to see how your representative voted!

Thanks again for all you've done, but remember, we can't let up pressure now. This won't be the last we've heard of the PATRIOT Act renewal in the House.

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#2. To: abraxas, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch* (#0)

'House out of order' after first blockage of Patriot Act in ten years

Artisan  posted on  2011-02-08   20:36:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

...87 new Republican Congressmen and 13 new Republican Senators were sworn into office last month. Many of them claim to hold 'Tea Party' limited government type values. Yet out of the 87 new Republicans in the House, we had a gain of only 16 votes against the Patriot Act compared with last year.

So much for the TEA Party being an agent of change within the GOP....but I'm glad the extension failed nonetheless.

X-15  posted on  2011-02-08   20:44:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

However it died, and whoever killed it, I could care less.

Keep 'em coming.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-02-08   21:48:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

these rats will bring it up for another vote before feb 28. you know it.

Artisan  posted on  2011-02-08   21:53:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

www.washingtonpost.com/wp...2/08/AR2011020806345.html

Artisan, I think we need to allow at least one day to celebrate a small, but important victory.

Patriot Act extension fails in the House by seven votes

House rejects Patriot Act extension

More than two-dozen House Republicans bucked their party to oppose the measure that would extend three key provisions in the counterterrorism law.

By Paul Kane and Felicia Sonmez Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday, February 8, 2011; 9:21 PM

House Republicans suffered an embarrassing setback Tuesday when they fell seven votes short of extending provisions of the Patriot Act, a vote that served as the first small uprising of the party's tea-party bloc.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-02-08   22:03:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

you got it. i am doing a comparison between who voted for what. now there were 87 new gop congressman sworn in last month. Last year, only 10 gop congressmen voted no on the patriot act. this year, it was 26, a gain of 16.

16 out of 87 is small %, but it did the trick. i will list all of them as well as those who claimed tea party status yet voted yes on it.thes thigns are important to expose the rats.

mcclintock, a previous fave candidate of mine here in ca, is one who i criticized for voting yes on it last year. he voted no this time round, for some reason.

Artisan  posted on  2011-02-08   23:19:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Last year, only 10 gop congressmen voted no on the patriot act. this year, it was 26, a gain of 16.

More than doubled -- about 62% more. Applause!

Re: this problematic flashback from your 'House out of order' link at Post #2:

Ten Republicans who voted no to renew Patriot Act in 2010

Martin Hill

May 9th, 2010 5:10 am PT

On February 25th, Congress voted to renew three sections of the Patriot Act which were set to expire. They did so in a secretive way, lumping the 'Patriot Act' renewal into a group of other bills that were set to expire. In effect, they bundled the bills into one vote as to avoid public debate or publicity on the matter. So at 7:25 PM on a Thursday night, it was extended for another year, in bill H R 3961 titled Medicare Physician Payment Reform Act.

That skullduggery of lumping bills together should be abolished. So should their redundant maneuvers at taxpayer's expense to force legislation that's been voted down back onto the floor before the ink has even dried. The States should nullify any such reprehensible, steamrolled legislation -- as well as any bills not read and debated before voting, like the oxymoronic "PATRIOT" Act of 2001 -- and bill the DC offenders for the time.

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-02-09   4:30:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That skullduggery of lumping bills together should be abolished.

ALL things FEDERAL should be abolished - terminated !

noone222  posted on  2011-02-09   4:39:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

ALL things FEDERAL should be abolished - terminated !

And then what? Anarchy? I agree there needs to be some massive rollbacks. You might like this new book by Tom Woods:

Who’s Afraid of a Free Society?

by Thomas E. Woods, Jr.

Today is the release date for my new book, Rollback : Repealing Big Government Before the Coming Fiscal Collapse. It could just as easily have been called Everything Needs to Be Abolished, and Here’s Why.

[sic]

let’s suppose that the federal government has in fact been an enemy of the people’s welfare, and that the progress in our living standards has occurred quite in spite of its efforts. It pits individuals, firms, industries, regions, races, and age groups against each other in a zero-sum game of mutual plunder. It takes credit for improvements in material conditions that we in fact owe to the private sector, while refusing to accept responsibility for the countless failures and social ills to which its own programs have given rise. Rather than bringing about the "public good," whatever that means, it governs us through a series of fiefdoms seeking bigger budgets and more power. Despite the veneer of public-interest rhetoric by which it camouflages its real nature, it is a mere parasite on productive activity and a net minus in the story of human welfare.

Now if this is a more accurate depiction of the federal government, we are likely to have a different view of the consequences of the coming fiscal collapse. So an institution that has seized our wealth, held back the rise in our standard of living, and deceived schoolchildren into honoring it as the source of all progress, will have to be cut back? What’s the catch? This is no calamity to be deplored. It is an opportunity to be seized. The primary purpose of the book, therefore, is to demonstrate that we would not only survive but even flourish in the absence of countless institutions we are routinely told we could not live without.

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-02-09   6:07:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And then what? Anarchy?

State and County Government are more than sufficient. And, if they became dictatorial, shut them off too.

Look, I wouldn't call it anarchy ... I'd call it UNarchy. What we have today is the most sophisticated and intrusive techno-dictatorship to have ever existed on planet earth. Personally, I don't like it one bit and am quite willing to go it alone or with a group of my choosing.

To those people that think of themselves as self sufficient, independent, self- starters, self-motivated, whatever best fits your own description of yourselves, to sit back and watch these anti-freedom ghouls steal every last crumb, to squeeze out every last drop of blood, to shit all over freedom as well as murder all over the world, I say prove it.

I much prefer anarchy to this highly organized blitzkrieg rolling out from D.C.

If it's FEDERAL it's fucked. Get it ? There isn't anything good or even well intended oozing out of that cess pit, so stop fucking financing it if you have an ounce of backbone or intestinal fortitude.

Otherwise you are a traitor to yourself and everyone else that's ill effected through your most generous contributions to the FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM / IRS / War Mongering, fucking satan. Got it yet ??? Talk is cheap. Freedom has a price attached to it.

Look in the fucking mirror and catch a glimpse of the REAL ENEMY of FREEDOM. Yes ! It's you !!! Followers of the Great Satan in D.C. [Bend down and lick the boot of your master].

April 15th "IS" April FOOL's DAY !

Don't hate me for stating the truth.

noone222  posted on  2011-02-09   6:55:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I much prefer anarchy to this highly organized blitzkrieg rolling out from D.C.

A highly organized blitzkrieg of Anarchy is precisely what's been rolling out from D.C. for far too long -- Anarchy against the Constitution.

If it's FEDERAL it's fucked. Get it ? There isn't anything good or even well intended oozing out of that cess pit, so stop fucking financing it if you have an ounce of backbone or intestinal fortitude.

Otherwise you are a traitor to yourself and everyone else that's ill effected through your most generous contributions to the FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM / IRS / War Mongering, fucking satan. Got it yet ??? Talk is cheap. Freedom has a price attached to it.

Look in the fucking mirror and catch a glimpse of the REAL ENEMY of FREEDOM. Yes ! It's you !!! Followers of the Great Satan in D.C. [Bend down and lick the boot of your master].

April 15th "IS" April FOOL's DAY !

I'm not seeing any guidance there on what you think needs to be done for people, employed or not, to be able to stop the financing of that hellionry.

Don't hate me for stating the truth.

I don't hate you for stating what you believe is the truth. Don't hate me for reminding you that you took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, not replace it with more Anarchy.

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-02-16   3:18:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#74. To: GreyLmist (#71)

I'm not seeing any guidance there on what you think needs to be done for people, employed or not, to be able to stop the financing of that hellionry.

To stop financing the destruction of our country we must all say no together. If and when we do that we will end it.

Don't hate me for reminding you that you took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, not replace it with more Anarchy.

When I was an 18 year old kid and still believed in our country I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution from "all" enemies both foreign and domestic. At the time I took the oath I was informed that until I left the military I had forfeited the "rights" protected by it. (All of this was long before "w" said the CON- sti-stupid was just a GD piece of paper).

I'm much older and far more realistic today. I do not "swear" oaths, nor do I feel compelled by the one taken as a part of my enlistment in the military. I personally consider AMERICAN TAXPAYERS the enemy of humanity.

Further, that oath, in my mind, was fulfilled the day my obligations to the military were satisfied and wasn't a perpetual commitment to an abstract concept requiring me to support unquestioned murder. And besides that, the U.S. Govt never upheld their end of the deal nor did the U.S. Govt ever intend to keep it.

These abstract pledges of allegiance or oaths to the CONstitution will never make murder or international genocide a righteous activity regardless of the "patriotic" spin." These things are childish falsehoods developed by evil people to convince us to murder each other.

The "killing machine" that we call government creates all of these abstract obligations and endless patriot promises to fill the empty heads of our youth (and borderline mentally retarded idiots) like the "sugar plums" that dance there for "childen" at Christmas time, which then justifies their murderous activity. Fucking ridiculous.

What I mean to say is that these oaths obligating 18 year old children to a tyrant or tyrannical government are pure bullshit and those taking them are what the "bull-shits" ... ignorant excrement.

Americans are accomplices to genocide and cannot hide behind bullshit excuses when justice does her thing. We will reap the whirlwind we have sewn.

America has allowed NAFTA and GATT, treasonous acts against their own interests, to stand for decades. This has destroyed many first time employment opportunities for our youth (and others) causing them to seek military positions as an alternative employment in order to have and support their families. We've effectually made them mercenaries and death merchants.

Call it what you will, but every act causes an equal and opposite reaction. Justice or karma will demand payment of us.

noone222  posted on  2011-02-16 06:02:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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