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Title: The World's Smallest Political Quiz
Source: Advocates for Self Government
URL Source: http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz
Published: Feb 10, 2011
Author: David F. Nolan.
Post Date: 2011-02-10 15:37:38 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Politics, beliefs, government, choice
Views: 3982
Comments: 62

The Worlds Smallest Political Quiz has been around now for quite some time. This is the latest version, and it tends to be reasonably accurate as far as pinning yourself down as to your political leanings.

This version is different from the one I last took which pegged me as Paleocon/Paleolibertarian which I thought was pretty accurate by the definitions.

I do have a question or two on the latest but it is still interesting to take to help give a person some idea of where they lie in the current political landscape.

Poster Comment: For the record I scored 100% Libertarian on personal issues and 70% on Economic Issues which gave me an overall score of Libertarian.

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#15. To: Original_Intent (#0) (Edited)

I don't have much use for The Advocates for Self Government - on account of their assertion that the socioeconomic polarities of conservatives and liberals are reversed. According to them a liberal is socially libertarian and economically authoritarian, and a conservative is socially authoritarian and economically libertartian. This I believe is false, liberalism is authoritarian right across the socioeconomic spectrum, and libertarians of all people should know that a direct economic regulation is an indirect social regulation and a direct social regulation is an indirect economic one.

While it is true to say liberals have some pet libertarians beliefs like the legalisation of cannabis/marijuana etc, they are largely authoritarian.

It is equally true that we have faux-conservatives advocating social regulations and statist approaches to law and order, true conservatives are difficult to distinguish from libertarians. It might be best to suggest that true conservatism is a tempered form of libertarianism.

So, while the idea of finding a 2D plane to replace the old, flawed 1D left-right spectrum understandable and desirable, I think the Political Compass here is fatally flawed. I suggest instead a new one dimensional paradigm, with the influence of state on society being the determining factor, ie:

Anarchism
Libertarianism
Old-style conservatism
Centerism
Social democracy and Christian democracy
Socialism
Full fledged totalitarianism - Fascism, Communism etc.

If we adjusted the above paradigm to say "The state's influence on the individual person", we can actually place radical environmentalism below fascism and communism, as radical environmentalists ultimately would rather that Mankind cease to exist..

irishthatcherite  posted on  2011-02-10   17:26:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Full fledged totalitarianism - Fascism, Communism etc.

That again mirrors my own thoughts - as illustrated by the following question:

To the individual how is Totalitarian Communism different from Totalitarian Fascism?

The answer of course is none. In both you are a slave and whatever political taxonomy may designate there is no effective difference between the two as regards the individual. Whether you call the Master Commissar or Commandante is effectively irrelevant as it is simply two names synonymous with the same thing. It is the two extremes of the political spectrum such that they circle back and overlap into one.

And Radical Environmentalism = Nihilism. It is such a distorted and perverted view that, despite being an avid conservationist, I categorically reject the label environmentalist.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-10   17:43:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

To the individual how is Totalitarian Communism different from Totalitarian Fascism?

The answer of course is none

o was just messing with you in my last reply but i would say i dissagree with you both slightly because if you think about it there can not be totalanarian fascism because if you use the pure definition of fascismn it means that the people that are outside of business not in bed with the government have an infitisamil molocole of freedom but communism means there is nothing and no one outside of government control under fascism the state controls business totally so if you dont run or work for a business your free to the extent you can be free outside the system under communism the state owns and operates even your parents before you are born and knows who is born when so no one can live off grid like thay can under fascism like som minority of even americans live now under the american fascism that has existed since the late 50 s heres am i explaining this right or do you not get what im saying ?

freepatriot32  posted on  2011-02-10   17:50:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

To the individual how is Totalitarian Communism different from Totalitarian Fascism?

The answer of course is none

o was just messing with you in my last reply but i would say i dissagree with you both slightly because if you think about it there can not be totalanarian fascism because if you use the pure definition of fascismn it means that the people that are outside of business not in bed with the government have an infitisamil molocole of freedom but communism means there is nothing and no one outside of government control under fascism the state controls business totally so if you dont run or work for a business your free to the extent you can be free outside the system under communism the state owns and operates even your parents before you are born and knows who is born when so no one can live off grid like thay can under fascism like som minority of even americans live now under the american fascism that has existed since the late 50 s heres am i explaining this right or do you not get what im saying ?

While I understand your qualification I would argue that it is a distinction without a difference.

Communism, as it has worked out in the real world, establishes at the top a hierarchical class of "leaders" who are more equal than others. It exerts total control over all aspects of life including speech and thought and thus the term totalitarianism (a term invented by Jeanne Kirkpatrick).

Under Fascism you have a straightforward hierarchy of leaders and minions. The names are different than under communism but the effect is essentially the same for the individual. In Theory large businesses on the inside maintain some semblance of independence but that is mostly illusion because there is no freedom to oppose the actions of the state. Under Fascism it might even be worse so far as individual welfare goes as there is no assumed obligation to establishing and maintaining a minimum living standard. And totalitarian fascism exerts similar strictures upon speech and thought making no pretense of wearing a velvet glove. The qualification being totalitarian fascism which requires complete subservience to the state.

While one can isolate upon differences between the two the effect is essentially the same - a society of slaves and Masters.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-10   18:03:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#33. To: Original_Intent, freepatriot32 (#30)

It would depend on whether there is a distinction between the collective of the state and the collective of the corporation state. Whatever difference exists in theory, none exists in practice.

irishthatcherite  posted on  2011-02-10 18:13:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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