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Title: Survival Strategy Advice Requested
Source: Me
URL Source: [None]
Published: Feb 13, 2011
Author: Me
Post Date: 2011-02-13 14:55:09 by Critter
Keywords: survival, homesteading, farming, SHTF
Views: 1205
Comments: 40

I have a decision upcoming, and I'm finding it difficult to be objective about it.

Currently I have 16 acres of unimproved land 1200 miles from here in southern Missouri. The reasons for buying there instead of here in NY were a) price, b) low taxes, c) warmer climate, d) no building codes or zoning laws in effect.

My plan was to rent here in NY until ready to retire, all the while, building the homestead of my dreams as time and money allowed. I wanted to own everything free and clear come retirement.

However, recent events here are making a move out of the city I am in, into the country nearby, a necessity. I have found two properties, one which I can easily afford, with a small ranch house and two acres of land. The other is the homestead of my dreams, already built, on 34 acres. The 2nd one is pricier, and I can just barely afford it now, and will be better able afford it in the next year or so.

Business is very good and and getting better every day.

The larger property has a three bedroom modular ranch with full basement, an extremely wide exterior entry to the basement, with heavy duty stairs, which makes moving heavy machinery in and out quite easy. excellent man cave.

It has a detached steel garage/workshop, approximately 30X40. It has a ten stall steel stable building. 25 of the acres are cleared and electric fenced for horses. The rest is mostly cleared without fencing. There is very little standing timber on the land but it backs up to a heavily wooded hill/mountain.

To survive in this area in a SHTF situation where commodities like oil and gas and propane are difficult to impossible to get, the place would need about 6 cords of firewood a season to heat. I would need 18 on 20 cords in reserve for long term survival. I will be getting older and of course, less able to cut and split firewood manually. If I get another 5 or 8 years of "normal" living before SHTF, then I can prepare it better for survival with solar heat, electric, wind power, set up to make bio diesel, etc.

The cool thing about this property is that I can shoot almost 1/3 of a mile. That's what really excites me. lol I can come home and practice, practice, practice, in my own back yard.

There's enough here to raise chickens, have horses, raise some dairy and beef. It's all set up and ready to go. The only thing that scares me is can I make it through the winters as an older gent in a pretty harsh climate. Temperatures can dip down to -20f at night and stay below zero for days or more.


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I am soliciting advice from the objective thinkers here. Do I buy the small one and keep the dream homestead in southern MO alive, or go for the one that's close to my business, already built, and a sure thing? It's already built and survivable now. It's not ten years and 1200 miles away. What would you do?

I should add that if things keep going as well as they are, I should be able to pay off the large NY property in about 10 years. Taxes as of now are $2600 a year. In MO, taxes on 16 acres are $25 a year. (9 images)

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#31. To: Critter (#0)

I am soliciting advice from the objective thinkers here.

I don't know how objective I can be, Critter, because I lived in Southern Missouri, the Ozarks actually, and loved it there. I have two sons that have never left and haved raised their families there and now are enjoying their grandchildren.

It is a great place for people on fixed incomes. I found a lot of retirees from California when I lived there. Where exactly are you considering buying?

By the way, there is some great fishing and hunting in So. Mo., too. Wild game was not unique on our table ... my sons, daughter and husband all hunted. I dressed it out, butchered and wrapped it all for freezing.

Phant2000  posted on  2011-02-14   20:36:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Phant2000 (#31)

Where exactly are you considering buying?

Actually, I already have a lot, 16 acres, in Gentryville Garage, MO. I may still do something with that someday, but I think I am going to take this place in NY with 34 acres for now, if they accept my offer.

Critter  posted on  2011-02-16   23:19:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Critter (#33)

but I think I am going to take this place in NY with 34 acres for now, if they accept my offer.

if they do, it was meant to be!

christine  posted on  2011-02-17   10:22:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#37)

Hi christine! I'm well, thanks for asking. I haven't been by here in quite a while. Stopped by to see if any of the old Market Wrapup crew is still posting here. It's been amazing to see many of the things we discussed 5 or more years ago come to pass. Hope all is well with you.

Soren  posted on  2011-02-17   21:04:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Soren (#38)

Stopped by to see if any of the old Market Wrapup crew is still posting here.

Last contact:

4um: hospital

Esso  posted on  2011-02-17   21:18:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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