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Title: Survival Strategy Advice Requested
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Published: Feb 13, 2011
Author: Me
Post Date: 2011-02-13 14:55:09 by Critter
Keywords: survival, homesteading, farming, SHTF
Views: 1845
Comments: 40
I have a decision upcoming, and I'm finding it difficult to be objective about it. Currently I have 16 acres of unimproved land 1200 miles from here in southern Missouri. The reasons for buying there instead of here in NY were a) price, b) low taxes, c) warmer climate, d) no building codes or zoning laws in effect. My plan was to rent here in NY until ready to retire, all the while, building the homestead of my dreams as time and money allowed. I wanted to own everything free and clear come retirement. However, recent events here are making a move out of the city I am in, into the country nearby, a necessity. I have found two properties, one which I can easily afford, with a small ranch house and two acres of land. The other is the homestead of my dreams, already built, on 34 acres. The 2nd one is pricier, and I can just barely afford it now, and will be better able afford it in the next year or so. Business is very good and and getting better every day. The larger property has a three bedroom modular ranch with full basement, an extremely wide exterior entry to the basement, with heavy duty stairs, which makes moving heavy machinery in and out quite easy. excellent man cave. It has a detached steel garage/workshop, approximately 30X40. It has a ten stall steel stable building. 25 of the acres are cleared and electric fenced for horses. The rest is mostly cleared without fencing. There is very little standing timber on the land but it backs up to a heavily wooded hill/mountain. To survive in this area in a SHTF situation where commodities like oil and gas and propane are difficult to impossible to get, the place would need about 6 cords of firewood a season to heat. I would need 18 on 20 cords in reserve for long term survival. I will be getting older and of course, less able to cut and split firewood manually. If I get another 5 or 8 years of "normal" living before SHTF, then I can prepare it better for survival with solar heat, electric, wind power, set up to make bio diesel, etc. The cool thing about this property is that I can shoot almost 1/3 of a mile. That's what really excites me. lol I can come home and practice, practice, practice, in my own back yard. There's enough here to raise chickens, have horses, raise some dairy and beef. It's all set up and ready to go. The only thing that scares me is can I make it through the winters as an older gent in a pretty harsh climate. Temperatures can dip down to -20f at night and stay below zero for days or more. Poster Comment: I am soliciting advice from the objective thinkers here. Do I buy the small one and keep the dream homestead in southern MO alive, or go for the one that's close to my business, already built, and a sure thing? It's already built and survivable now. It's not ten years and 1200 miles away. What would you do? I should add that if things keep going as well as they are, I should be able to pay off the large NY property in about 10 years. Taxes as of now are $2600 a year. In MO, taxes on 16 acres are $25 a year.
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The snow and cold back in Montana is why I live in Oregon. Here's a viable option (and there are some availabe in Mo. as well: Atlas F Missile Silo base located in Southwestern Oklahoma NOTE: This property and this web site are in a constant state of change. Please check back regularly for updates to the web site and for completed renovation projects on this property. Current photos are available here. This property is an Atlas F Missile Silo base located west of Hobart, Oklahoma in Southwestern Oklahoma. It was Site 2 of the 577th Strategic Missile Squadron which was based at Altus Air Force Base in Altus, Oklahoma. This property is a total of 8.5 acres. Approximately five acres are enclosed inside a 7-foot chain link fence. Both of the original quonset hut buildings are still in place. The fact that both quonset huts are on site is rare and very few Atlas sites in the country still have both quonset huts. Each quonset hut is 40' x 100' for a total of 8,000 square feet. Electrical power has been upgraded to a 325 Amp capacity transformer and both quonset huts have active electrical service to them. The East/West quonset hut is currently being used as a storage and parking garage area and has a 100 Amp main panel. The North/South quonset hut has a 200 Amp main panel and supplies power to the living quarters that have been built into this building. Residential type 110/240VAC single phase power has been run into the underground LCC via a 200 Amp main panel. Three-phase electrical poles and wiring run onto the property from the electrical grid. Separate electrical meters split the above-ground structures from the underground LCC. A 2" water line is on-site providing well water from a rural water district. The water line currently feeds the living quarters in the North/South quonset hut and a future update will provide water into the underground LCC. On-site communications include an 8-wire buried telephone service capable of 4 independent phone lines. Phone service has been extended into the underground LCC. High speed Internet access is also on-site using high speed wireless through a local Motorola Canopy based network. This Internet access has also been extended into the underground LCC. An on-site monitored security system extends throughout the North/South quonset hut and includes circuits into various underground structures as well as the above ground pump house. The original water well pump house is currently being used as a storage area for yard tools and site maintenance equipment. If you have a serious interest in purchasing this unique property, contact the owner at siloforsale@gmail.com. This site will require full payment for the property upon closing, therefore a contract for deed is not available. Thank you for your interest and check back often as updates will be added to this web site as renovation projects are completed.
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